<p>Smallcolleges:
Firstly, convention is that an A- is 3.7 and a B+ is 3.3. It doesn' tmake mathematical sense, as the individual grades are rounded to one decimalplace,while the GPA is calculated to two. Feel free to do the math anyway you want, but this is the standard that most students will be measured by. Second, no one here is using a rigid mathematical definition of a B+ student anyway. The cohort discussed here are not the CC high fliers, but the group that gets a mix of A's and B's, by definition more of the latter than the former, and with (gasp) the occasional C. Standardized tests will generally be in the 80-90% range, although you will see students above and below (even for the same student, who may have discordant M and V scores).</p>
<p>Interesting though, that none of the threads regarding "average" students have survived the way this thread has. Also interesting that John6391, with a 3.25 gpa, describes himself himself as "average." </p>
<p>A solid "B" or 3.0 is above average anywhere except CC!</p>
<p>Maybe it's time to try againg with a thread for average/B students (or - - heaven forfend B- students).</p>
<p>^totally agree with you, foolishpleasure....I'm all for a thread for "B" students, although this one has given me some great ideas for some reaches....</p>
<p>It's hard to know if your student is A-, B+ or B, when grades are weighted and some schools use the weight and others recompute without the weght. I see this as a thread for parents of kids who don't get mostly As. (The mostly A crowd will do great with or without the weighting.) My son gets mostly Bs in mostly AP classes....mid A weighted, low B unweighted.</p>
<p>^missy: I think part of the problem is as you stated, but in addition, there are kids where AP classes are not "walk-ins' in their schools...A majority of CC contributors seem to think that most, if not all, kids are not taking AP courses because they are not motivated...I'm sure you know that it not always the case....
So, what about the "B" kid who has not been allowed into AP (or even honors) classes? Motivated, yea sure...hard worker, yea sure.....There really is not a thread for that kid...even the B+ thread is filled with kids that are in multiple honors and AP classes....</p>
<p>^^ A number of the specialized schools here in NYC require an overall average of 90 to be eligible for ANY AP course. So a student with 97 in math, but an overall gpa of 87 b/c of a grade of 80 in a totally unrelated course (like Spanish) is inelig for AP calc. Why? Crowd control; with an enrollments of 3500 up to 4700, there aren't enough AP teachers to open AP courses to every student scoring above 90 (or even 95) in a particular subject.</p>
<p>We're trying to finalize my D schools she's applying.
stats: unwgpa 3.43, wgpa 3.6, gpa for the uc 3.5
6 AP (the max AP allowed at her HS)
sat - 1600, satII math - 600, history 700
How is UCI and UCD for her?
How about for ucr, ucm, ucsc?
How her chances for CalPoly SLO and Pomona?
She doesn't have any special considerations such as low-income, first generation, hardships, etc...
Does it matter that she attends a highly competitive private hs? I guess she's around the 50% percentile for the class rank....
A lot of EC, leaderships, and community service activities.
Thanks a lot !</p>
<p>MomOfaTeen, your D's GPA and SAT scores are a little low for Davis. Here's the admitted profile ranges (middle 50%) for 2008:</p>
<p>GPA 3.75—4.17
ACT 24—30
SAT Math 580—710
SAT Reading 540—670
SAT Writing 550—680</p>
<p>She's probably ok for UCM (everyone at my son's high school who applied with similar stats got in last year). Cal Poly Pomona is probably a match. SLO is a reach, but a lot depends on her major, and what her SAT Math/Reading scores were (they don't take SAT-W or SAT-IIs).</p>
<p>Good luck to her!</p>
<p>vballmom, thanks for the heads up. My D hasn't decided on her major, but it seems that she'll choose a major that is popular at both SLO and Pomona. I hope CalPoly SLO and Pomona do not have a rolling admission policy because my DD hasn't submitted her application yet.
And, we're adding csu and cc (just in case)</p>
<p>MomOfaTeen your D will have to declare her major when she applies to Cal Poly SLO. She should apply as soon as possible (like today). The application is easy. They don't have rolling admissions, but ED applications were submitted Oct 1-31, and RD should go in by Nov 30.</p>
<p>I posted this on another thread - I received 3 emails from the counseling office at my son's high school yesterday urging kids to get their CSU apps in well before Thanksgiving, and to apply to the CSU in their local service area (in my case SJSU) if their qualifications are "less competitive".</p>
<p>vballmom, thanks a lot for the advice. I really don't know what to do at this point. My D has been ready with ther application for SLO and Pomona since first week of October, but she just doens't want to send it. I believe her HS gives her a false sense of security. D doens't really listens to me. I'll have her apply for calpoly pomona, ucm, uci, and csu despite her reluctance. Her college counselor doesn't recomend her to apply to those schools. I don't know why since D doens't have super stellar gpa. Anyhow, I think D will be discover soon that attending a highly competitive hs is not going to get her into whatever colleges she likes. sorry for the long reply.</p>
<p>I've come back to post DS's final results.
He retook the ACT in Oct with the idea of qualifying for Honors College at Alabama, and perhaps in-state tuition at LSU. This time he really wanted it, and scored a 30!
He was then admitted to Pitt! So he is batting 100%, which did wonders for his self-confidence. DH and I are hoping he visits Pitt again, to give it a fair shot.
He is still waiting to hear officially from Alabama and LSU Honors Colleges - his admission should be fairly automatic, although his GPA is borderline for LSU Honors, then he will decide.</p>
<p>Congratulations, cangel. What great news.</p>
<p>rodney, so then start a thread if this one seems wrong. I can tell you that my B+ student in mostly honors and AP courses is not going to be looking at the same set of colleges as his older brother. I can tell from the scattergrams at his school that he's going to have to look at a different set of colleges.</p>
<p>congrats cangel! I'm pulling for LSU honors, of course. A shame to see a great kid wearing crimson :)</p>
<p>Cangel thanks so much for passing on the good news! I'm awfully glad to hear it.</p>
<p>There have been so many wonderful replies to my concerns.</p>
<p>Just wanted to say thank you everyone for your input. I have copied and pasted all your responses and I will use them to expand our search!</p>
<p>We are very excited for him Zoosermom - of course he is too cool to be excited. ;).
And lderochi, someone is going to be unhappy - either his Dad and Granddad or his Gramma on the other side of the family, along all the cousins on that side - someone is not going to be happy.</p>
<p>I think one telling thing is that he has 10 LSU shirts, one Pitt shirt, and no, no Bama shirts. Although he says Bama is leading.
When he and his Dad got to the Ferguson Center for Bama days, they were greeted by a rousing "Roll Tide", with the idea that you answered in kind - they looked at each other and just shook their heads, we can't do it, they both said "Good Morning".</p>
<p>Does anyone know if some of the Cal States are bettern than others? I'm referring to the quality of education only. Or any Cal State would be more or less about the same level?
My question would exclude both of the Cal Poly.
Thanks a lot for your help!</p>
<p>A few of the Cal States are residential campuses, most are commuter schools.</p>