<p>Congrats to all on acceptances!</p>
<p>Not all SUNYs have scholarships for OOS students, but some do. I know that Oneonta does not have scholarships specifically for OOS. I know that Oswego does.</p>
<p>My daughter is looking at small schools in Pennsylvania. She plans on being an elementary education major, but is also very interested in music and theater. I was wondering if anyone has experience with the following:</p>
<p>Elizabethtown College
Lebanon Valley College
Arcadia University
Albright College
Juniata College
Susquehanna University
Shippensburg University
Millersville University</p>
<p>These are all schools which do not seem to appear on many lists in on CC, but have some impressive programs and (mostly) offer majors in elementary education, which many LAC's do not seem to provide.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing any experiences you may have had.</p>
<p>I made it into Loyola :p</p>
<p>Congratulations, Polihist!!</p>
<p>A bit late, but--
Northeastmom-- when you visited Oneonta, did you also check out Hartwick College? A friend told me it's located pretty much across the road, and is one we might check out. Don't kow much about it yet.</p>
<p>And Fermata-- I think I recalled reading somewhere that West Chester's education program was fairly popular. Could be wrong, though.</p>
<p>lspf72, Thanks, yes we did visit Hartwick. Thanks. Hartwick is a very nice LAC, I hope that you have strong legs, but for those that don't but spend 4 years there, they will develop some muscles in in their legs because they will have lots of climbing to do. The school is very hilly.</p>
<p>Fermata, has your d considered Muhlenberg as well? Another smallish LAC in PA with an education department. It offers many performing opportunities, even for non-majors, and the theater department is excellent.</p>
<p>Frazzled -- yes, she did look at Muhlenberg and initially was very attracted to it, particularly because of the strong arts programs. But turns out it does not have an Elementary Education major, which is the direction she wants to pursue, so it didn't make her final cut. Thanks for the suggestion!</p>
<p>Muffy, I dont know if you are still here, but you seem to know a lot about SUNYs. Do you predict massive overcrowding next year? I thought they already are putting kids 3 to a dorm room and "de-tripling" as time goes by.</p>
<p>I have just discovered this great thread!</p>
<p>Fermata, my S's list overlaps with yours -- Susquehanna, Lycoming, Washington (MD)--he's been accepted at all three w/ merit $ -- waiting to hear from Goucher, McDaniel, American.</p>
<p>While my S is interested in business/economics, I know that Susquehanna is also strong in both education and music (and music education).</p>
<p>Copngratulations, Magicsmom. I have heard good things about McDaniel in particular -- my daughter decided not to apply for the same reason she decided against Muhlernberg, they do not have an elementary education major. But they are meant to provide an excellent liberal arts education. My D at this point has been accepted at all of her choices, and is waiting to compare the various merit packages.</p>
<p>kayf - funny you should ask, I need to add that D visited SUNY Albany two weeks ago and was again told at the admissions presentation "we are looking for solid B plus students!" (I just really like when schools say that). Anyway, I think it is very hard to tell now what matriculation at each SUNY school will be, lots of kids at D's school that would have gone to private schools a year ago only have the SUNY option bc of finances but then again, the admissions offices are planning for that.</p>
<p>Can a B student parent join in?</p>
<p>Although I am thinking this thread is for a good all around student, as opposed to my lopsided kid with perfect math scores and abyssmal writing scores (averages out to a 3.0)</p>
<p>However our concerns are the same. Where will he fit? Where will he fit AND get a good education? Where will he fit and get a good education AND be challenged by his peers. You get my drift</p>
<h1>theorymom-- our S2 is the same, but opposite. Took the ACT for the first time and scored very high on the verbal/writing sections, and low on math and science, to end up with a pretty average score. This is reflected (less drastically) in his GPA as well.</h1>
<p>My hope is to find a school at his level where the atmosphere is academically engaging, where students can branch out and investigate different disciplines. Aside from ruling out engineering, math and the sciences, he is COMPLETELY undecided as to what he'd like to study, which makes it all the more difficult. I'd love to think that somewhere down the line he'll have an "Aha!" moment, but I don't think it often works out that way.</p>
<p>I noticed American mentioned in this thread. It is a school that my son is look at as well, but he would need merit aid. I don't know how I overlooked their profile info but I did. I found this tonight:</p>
<p>Fall 2008 Admitted Freshman Profile</p>
<p>The Middle 50%:</p>
<p>GPA: 3.56-4.07 (weighted and unweighted)
ACT: 27-31
SAT: 1210-1370 (critical reading and mathematics)
Honors Program</p>
<p>4.07 is the top of middle 50%? Is that what that means? How high does a student's GPA have to be to be considered for merit? Would having an ACT score of 34 make any difference? And why doesnt' Ameircan list amounts with their scholarships? NMF can range from a few thousand to full tuition.</p>
<p>I'm not sure about the rest of the questions, but I'd guess that an ACT of 34 would be a big plus - that's a great score for any school.</p>
<p>Been hanging on this thread since it started - DS has narrowed his list down to three, our local university and two PA LAC - Allegheny and Juniata (saw Fermata was also loooking there). We have been to Allegheny and he loved it, we are going back for the Trustees Scholarship weekend in March. We are heading to Juniata but not until April because of the timing of their spring break and the spring musical he is student directing. Can anyonne offer me some comparison, my son is calm and cool about this and I am quite anxious and feel the need to drive there today. He wants to major in psychology and still remain activie and possibly minor in theater. Any help would be appreciated.</p>
<p>Fermata, I have a s who is a freshman at Millersville. He likes it a lot. In my humble opinion, I can't imagine NOT considering a PA state school for an education major. They are really known for their programs and you can't beat the price!</p>
<p>I have heard good things about Allegheny. We did not look at it seriously mostly because of the location in relation to the other options.</p>
<p>And yes, PA does have excellent education programs in their state schools, and comparatively they are a great value. My D has some good choices and the decision will not be easy.</p>
<p>This is such a great thread and occasionally it gets buried. Recommend all posters notify moderators (who should already be aware of this) that this thread either gets "stickied" or at least rated so newcomers can find it easier.</p>