<p>I think Goucher would be a good fit for DD, but she needs to go out there. </p>
<p>cpeltz: I’m shocked that they wouldn’t jump at a 31 ACT with some merit aid. If your kid’s school is like my DD’s (where they still cling to the old notion that “a B is a good grade”) that score is a great validator of future success.</p>
<p>I was surprised about Goucher as well, in fact, I mistakenly thought it would be somewhat of a financial safety for him, because of his ACT and the fact that my son is out of their normal region.</p>
<p>Morale of the story is to cast a wide net!</p>
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<p>The PR website shows that UVM has ACT range of 23-28, it of course has more OOS than in state, although that may be changing with this economy. </p>
<p>UCONN shows an ACT range of 24-28, but I thought I read somewhere on CC that it is up to a 3.5 GPA or so now. I would love it if my S applied to UCONN, as we have 3 alum in the family. (but that is probably why he won’t apply) The OOS tuition is way more now than what we paid in 2003-2007 & that is a problem! </p>
<p>Delaware also has a high percentage of OOS students, but they are held to a higher academic standard than the in-state kids, from what I have read. ACT range shows 25-28 & Avg. GPA is 3.6… </p>
<p>Maine-I would think both Student #1 & Student #2 would get in.</p>
<p>MSUDad, explain about the 50 points on the SAT on my chances. I don’t think I quite get what you mean.</p>
<p>MSUDad, those Sats don’t suprise me at all. My older son had similar stats and was rejected at MIT, Caltech, Stanford and waitlisted at Harvey Mudd. But he got into Harvard, Carnegie Mellon (Comp Sci hardest school to get into) and RPI and WPI. He still had good choices. His essay was nothing spectacular and he was pretty one sided in terms of activities. It’s not all bad, you don’t have to worry about safeties, because you know you’re in.</p>
<p>I think the hardest position is when your scores and grades don’t line up. S2 is basically a B+ student with high SAT scores. We don’t know how far to reach and it’s hard to be sure what is safe enough. I don’t think things are much easier for kids whose SAT scores are lower than they “should” be either.</p>
<p>I choose to believe my hs’s naviance over most of the online sites.</p>
<p>Delaware’s OOS standard is definitely higher than in-state, but that’s not really saying much. Take a look at the Commitment to Delawareans to see what stats will GUARANTEE in-state admission… and more are admitted holistically/after SAT scores.</p>
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<p>I agree completely. However, D currently has 2 schools on her list with absolutely no data on her naviance and another 3 schools with minimal data. I need something to give me a ballpark, but an accurate one. I don’t think mychances is at all accurate.</p>
<p>Agree with mathmom here. S1 (another math/CS guy) had similar stats plus big awards and was rejected at Harvard and Cornell, waitlisted at Caltech. Accepted EA at UChicago w/merit and MIT, RD at Mudd, full ride at UMD. Sent scores, but did not complete apps at Stanford, CMU and UMich after getting EA results.</p>
<p>No guarantees. OTOH, Naviance for his HS was spot-on for ever school except Caltech.</p>
<p>Thanks. I looked at some scattergrams–they had fewer examples than our HS Naviance and, as you noticed, almost no denials. I am, so far, of a mind that it is no better than just looking at mid 50% of accepted students.</p>
<p>i saw “slumom” and thought of the billiken’s.<br>
glad we got that cleared up ;)</p>
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<p>schools that may offer a lot of merit aid.</p>
<p>Son has 3.4 GPA, 31 ACT and 1940 SAT scores. He has taken 5 APs (scores for those are 2, 3, and 4) so far and will be taking 4 more his senior year. He wants to apply to WPI, RPI, VA Tech, Bucknell, Lehigh and Lafayette, which depending on the day and which posts I read here are possibly reaches. I think his safety may be VCU, ODU but not sure.</p>
<p>We don’t have a lot of money to help support him in college and I feel that his #1 choice - WPI, may accept him but then won’t offer enough money for him to be able to afford to go there.</p>
<p>He wants to be a mechanical engineer, wants to play club lacrosse, be at a college with snow, and be on the east coast. Based on our college visits during spring break- he prefers suburban colleges with smaller classes and campuses that may have less than 10K students.</p>
<p>At this point, I want to make sure he will have an option of a four year college to attend- it may not be the best (WPI) but one that will offer him money to attend- if that’s even possible with his grades (not that his grades are bad- they aren’t).</p>
<p>Can anyone offer any ideas? thanks.</p>
<p>May not apply to your situation but sure sounds close. Talked to a friend who has a son with very similar stats to yours - like almost exactly the same. Also plays lacrosse and going into engineering - go figure. Not eligible for Financial Aid.
Fall 2010 he will be attending SUNY Albany (lacrosse scholarship) on the 3/2 plan with RPI. “Full Ride” they say, but then that could mean anything, but maybe the possibility of them offering your son $ to play and attend.</p>
<p>Just an FYI - Good Luck with your search.</p>
<p>Chuckle, I believe there is a separate CC parents thread on suggestions of good merit aid colleges.
Division 3 sports schools do not give athletic scholarships, but are often generous with aid to athletes–if he can play D3 rather than club.
Getting aid is obviously nice–and there is a lot to be said for his being a “bigger academic fish” in a smaller pond</p>
<p>yabeyabe2. Thanks for the info about the other thread. As for D3, my son doesn’t want to play at that level. He plays because he enjoys it and doesn’t care if he wins/loses. The division schools are more into the practice to win category and my son isn’t built that way. Needless to say, it has put stress on him in high school because most of the boys are eat, sleep, drink lacrosse and he’s laid back about it. He also doesn’t want to practice all the time… just play.</p>
<p>that’s why I was looking for the merit aid schools for his “grade” level. We already know he won’t be getting money to play lacrosse- he won’t do it.</p>
<p>His values are solid–not all schools have lacrosse clubs, so he should check. Bucknell has become extremely hard to get into, and Lehigh and Lafayette are more difficlut than your other choices. Given the financial issues, have you considered state schools, such as Stony Brook?</p>
<p>Chuckle: My son is looking at Marquette as a safety (similar stats) because of its club lax. Not alot of merit aid that we can identify, but does have no-app scholarships as well as competitive merit aid. Just visited last week; son has moved it to the top of his list and I really liked Milwaukee.</p>
<p>Chuckle, suggest Alfred University (NY) for mechanical engineering. Maybe some merit aid.</p>
<p>My niece was very impressed with Lafayette’s fin aid package, so I think if you get in (apply early!) that would be one option. They were 6,000 better than 8 of the 9 schools she was accepted to (including RPI, which was 8,000 worse).</p>