<p>cornell's states schools arent SUNYs i thought... they are just government funded.... and its STILL cornell
doesnt matter if its state or private... right
Human Ecology?</p>
<p>theyre SUNY subsidized, which just means its cheaper if youre from NY and also easier to get into because they must take a certain amount of NY residents. Other than that, no difference</p>
<p>what do you mean
please elaborate...
thanks</p>
<p>so you are saying not to go?</p>
<p>sexy, maybe u will find this helpful.</p>
<p>The main reason why i did not attend amherst college (and to some on here, amherst is like the harvard or yale of LACs) was because they didnt take 18 of my units, leaving me almost a year behind. I decided to apply to schools in the university of california system since they will take all of my units and its cheap to go here since i have less travel expenses to pay.</p>
<p>This is what i did with my opportunity, which i think is fairly reasonable. Although, i could see some people on here arguing about the decision i made.</p>
<p>so... a suny to cornell?</p>
<p>yes forgiven</p>
<p>i still dont understand u mojojojo</p>
<p>I don't see why everyone is still arguing.</p>
<p>If you have the money and time, go ahead.</p>
<p>If you don't, don't.</p>
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<p>If you have the money and time, go ahead.</p>
<p>If you don't, don't.
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<p>Yea, I thought it was pretty simple too. It depends on alot of factors, such as</p>
<ol>
<li>money/willingness to take more debt</li>
<li>willingness to spend time</li>
<li>postgrad plans</li>
<li>personal satisfaction (i.e. prestige whorishness :))</li>
</ol>
<p>They're going to differ from person to person. My personal decision would be to go the ivy though if you're curious.</p>
<p>Wow I would LOVE to erase 30 credits from my academic history at any University. If I am to attend a UC in the future, they will force me to graduate after the fourth year :(. So if you don't have a unit cap, just ignore the first couple sentences below. :)</p>
<p>Erasing 30 credits would leave me with more room to take more special topics, especially those out of my major. It would also lighten the workload of being a double major, since I most likely would have taken courses similar to the 30 erased credits. I specifically use the word similar because courses at one college are commonly structured differently at another college, even though they may be of the same subject. If I have to retake courses that are identical to courses that were erased in the 30 unit wipe, then I certainly wouldn't mind the GPA boost. </p>
<p>Erasing 30 credits is merely erasing a black and white number that is robotically printed on your transcript. The real deal is the knowledge you walk away with. </p>
<p>NO schools are equal in education! Ivy's receive more resarch funding and endowment funds than the average state college. This means more resources for Professors to discover cutting edge advances, which then translates into more special topics unique to the college. Not many colleges have the funding to create ILR or the Hotel school, as Cavs states. If I was interesting in an ILR subject, I wouldn't have the chance to take it, any where else in the nation.</p>
<p>Prestige has much to do with money. The social networking at Ivy schools are much more helpful since Ivy's have more rich kids. Of course connections can be made from any college, or even without college, it's just more efficient at Ivy's. The alumni association at these institutions tend to be more helpful in the professional arena. Alumni's hiring alumni's, etc. </p>
<p>Companies are biased towards Ivy's, since some companies target Ivy schools only. Certain internships I've applied to won't even look at my application because I'm not within their target school.</p>
<p>hmm this thread got taken over by sexy123... lol the topic was experiences transferring out an ivy and why...</p>
<p>"would you make the transfer to an ivy league school and lose an entire year? or would you just finish up at your current average state school?" -OP</p>
<p>Doesn't this mean transferring to an Ivy as opposed to transferring out?</p>
<p>no
this means would you transfer to an ivy or stay at your current school</p>
<p>sorry walnut, i am actually having some trouble understanding what you realy mean... could you please elaborate
thanks</p>
<p>walnut, sexy doesnt select which 30 units she can have out of her transcript, thats for the school to decide.</p>
<p>Sorry, i'm running PST time, so i'm not thinking straight. To rephrase:</p>
<p>My personal view of erasing 30 credits:
Although my transfer status differs slightly to yours, I'm a big fan of erasing 30 credits. Erasing 30 credits would leave me with more room to take more special topics, especially those out of my major. It would also lighten the workload of being a double major, since I most likely would have taken courses similar to the 30 erased credits. I specifically use the word similar because courses at one college are commonly structured differently at another college, even though they may be of the same subject. Let's say I have an Ethnic Studies course that was erased. I then take an Ethnic Studies course at Cornell, which is infused with labor relations. My previous ethnic course should help me with my new course at Cornell. In the event that I have to take courses that are identical to those erased in 30 unit wipe, I would simply consider the class as a GPA boost. However, identical courses only appear in lower division "sequence" like classes, like Pre-Calculus, Calculus, Intro Bio, Bio, etc. </p>
<p>Although erasing 30 credits may seem like a waste, it is not. It's merely erasing a black and white number that is robotically printed on your transcript. We're all attending college to prepare us for life after. The knowledge from those 30 credits erased from your transcript will stay with you after you graduate. The knowledge gained by the classes is the purpose of your tuition and such. The transcript annotations may help with initial job search, but knowledge will get you much farther.</p>
<p>On education that Ivy's provide:
Colleges will vary in the education the provide. Ivy's receive more resarch funding and endowment funds than the average state college. This grants Professors more resources to discover cutting edge advances, which then translates into more special topics courses unique to the college. I'm sure the resources aided the creation of non traditional majors such as ILR and Hotel School, as Cavs states. State schools of course have their own unique topics, but it intuitively seems like Ivy's have more advanced and special topics than State schools can provide.</p>
<p>On social networking benefits of Ivy schools:
Prestige has much to do with money. The social networking at Ivy schools is very beneficial due to wealthy students on average. Of course connections can be made from any college, or even without college, it's just more efficient at Ivy's. The alumni association at these institutions tend to be more helpful in the professional arena. Alumni's hiring alumni's, etc. </p>
<p>On career benefits of Ivy's:
Companies are biased towards Ivy's, since some companies target Ivy schools only. Certain internships I've applied to won't even look at my application because I'm not within their target school group.</p>
<p>*To respond to mojojojo, they erase course non-equivalents, which should be fine. With all the unique topics that colleges have, it's difficult to have course equivalents in certain topics. The ethnic studies example I wrote above is the prime example. If i'm a Ethnic studies major and my Ethnic studies course at CC was erased, I'm sure it will help in whichever Ethnic studies course I take at my future college.</p>
<p>Since the courses are non-equivalents, this would lessen the chance of taking identical courses to my previous CC courses. Identical courses are the *worst *because you are wasting tuition money and not learning anything new.</p>
<p>but wont the companies see that i TRANSFERED...
theyd see that i was only at the ivy for less than 4 years
so the bias would be less towards me.. right</p>
<p>Sexy123, look. As someone else has already said, this is about you. I am transferring because I am unhappy at my current school. Transferring seemed like that natural thing to do. If you feel like you are happy enough to stick it out one more year, then do it. If you don't, then transfer. There are a LOT of factors going into the transfer process: for me, social happiness is the first, but also there are 1. academics 2. location 3. student life 4. ease of transition to a new environment...you can't simply ask someone "Should I transfer" without providing any sort of background information. If your question is simply "Should I transfer because I want to graduate from a more impressive sounding university" then I'd say NO because you might take the spot of someone who wants to be there for a legitimate reason (meaning that prestige is not a legitimate transfer reason).</p>