<p>"The entire process that led up to this years tailgate is disheartening for me and, I hope, for every other Harvard student who gives a whit about this school and its reputation. The new restrictions essentially confirm what Harvard detractors have been saying for years and are just one more way for the school to look unfriendly and unaccommodating to current and potential students. I pray that I am wrong, but I predict that Saturday will see the first step in the long-term decline of the Harvard-Yale game, or at least the half of it that takes place in Cambridge. This is something that cant be remedied by simply calling New Haven a slum and patting ourselves on the back. "</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>"Everyone loves the comforts of home. And while in years past we have referred to New Haven as degenerate and a putrid cesspool, times, they are a-changin. New Haven, indeed, is in the midst of a renaissance; this is something we can no longer deny. With your fancy restaurants, flashy nightclubs, and newly paved roads, we understand even why it might be difficult for you to want to leave your resurgent town"</p>
<p>Both these colleges need to ****ing chill. Educationally, I'd say they are both tied, just as is Princeton. Now, I see how the people who go to Yale and Harvard are really idiots...they argue over the most stupid things.</p>
<p>Predator- tons of schools have rivalries, that doesn't make them idiots. Would you say the same about Boston College and Boston University, or Alabama and Auburn, or West Point vs. Annapolis? It's a sports rivalry, don't read too much into it.</p>
<p>My friends who went to the tailgates only confirmed what everyone feared - it wasn't even close to years past. The fact that alumni had to pay $15 to go to their own college tailgate is asinine. That said, the alumni tailgates were unaffected and were supposedly fine though somewhat removed. </p>
<p>The way the harvard students diplomatically assesed the situation only proved my point:</p>
<p>"The tailgate was clearly affected by restrictions and weather,” Quincy House Committee (HoCo) co-chair James P. “J.P.” Sharp ’07 wrote in an e-mail. “It wasn’t nearly as good as previous tailgates, but people still had a lot of fun.”</p>
<p>Undergraduate Council President John S. Haddock ’07 said that though many of the restrictions were “unfair and unnecessary,” students made the most of the tailgate. </p>
<p>“Hopefully this year can serve as proof that students can behave responsibly and shouldn’t need heavy-handed enforcements,” Haddock said yesterday."</p>
<p>My real regret is that I didn't see Yale destroy Harvard on the field. </p>
<p>I look forward to a much more normal and open experience next year in New Haven, where students do not need to be policed and cordoned off. and hopefully Yale can make it 2 in a row!</p>
<p>Here is a choice and selective comment, which brings up something I wasn't aware of. I wonder how much it costs to tailgate at Yale? I didn't pay last year, but I'm not sure if that's an exception or the rule (I just looked it up and it is $13 for reserved parking):</p>
<p>"Has anyone mentioned the fact that the Athletic Department has increased the price for an alumni tailgating parking pass to $275? Regardless of the reasons for this change, which may include the costs of repairing damaged fields post-tailgate, the impact of this policy shift mirrors that of the undergrad tailgate restrictions: it will anger alumni donors, encourage drinking in areas where tailgating is not permitted, and undercut moral and financial support for the university for years to come. Speaking as a recent alum who has attended every Game since 2000, I can honestly (and sadly) say that my level enjoyment takes a huge dip every other year when the Game returns to Cambridge."</p>
<p>"Both these colleges need to ****ing chill. Educationally, I'd say they are both tied, just as is Princeton. Now, I see how the people who go to Yale and Harvard are really idiots...they argue over the most stupid things."</p>
<p>From my observations the Harvard writers are a helluva lot wittier though.</p>
So your complaint is what, exactly? That underage students weren't allowed to bring in alcohol to the student tailgate and only those over 21 were allowed to purchase it? As a result of which, "Only one student was taken to the emergency room for alcohol poisoning due to the tailgate—down from 30 in 2004." And that's a bad thing in your view because . . . ?</p>
<p>I will say this. Any student who wants to go to college so he/she can spend four years drunk probably has better options for that than going to Harvard.</p>
<p>This is getting real boring with you Cosar. As you have failed to understand my point depsite it patent simplicity and corroboration by the Crimson and YDN, it is safe to say that replying to you is really POINTLESS. Either you are dim or dull or a combination of the two. I don't really care anymore. But, even you can tell, despite your puritanical and dreary disposition, that many students and alums agree with me. </p>
<p>We appear to be coming at this from two different angles, you from the nervous parents, and I from the rowdy young alums. I am sure parents would agree more with you while students and recent graduates who have a fresh memory of modern HY games would agree with me.</p>
<p>You find yourself calling people on an internet chat board things like "dim," "dull," or "dreary." Or things like "pathetic," "tiresome" or "really sad." Or when the mods have to delete your posts for their ad hominem attacks. Anyway, I’ll leave the last word to you if you want it.</p>
<p>IVY LEAGUE CHAMPIONS! Bulldogs Beat Harvard 34-13 to Claim Title
Fourteenth Ivy Championship in School History, First Since 1999 </p>
<p>CAMBRIDGE, Mass. - Behind a relentless defense and an opportunistic offense, the Yale Bulldogs claimed a share of the Ivy League championship with a 34-13 win over Harvard Saturday afternoon at Harvard Stadium. The win, Yale's first over the Crimson since 2000, caps a remarkable season and gives Yale its 14th Ivy title. </p>
<p>"It doesn't get any better than this," said senior wide receiver Chandler Henley, the team captain. "Last game, beat Harvard, win the Ivy League championship. I'm proud of this team." </p>
<p>The Bulldogs were in a virtual must-win situation after falling to Princeton last week at the Yale Bowl, Class of 1954 Field. That cost Yale a chance at the outright title and dropped the Elis into a first-place tie with the Tigers, who took care of business Saturday by beating Dartmouth 27-17 to claim a share of the crown with Yale. </p>
<p>"We had it in our grasp and we didn't capitalize," Henley said of last week's loss. "[Beating Harvard after the loss is] a tribute to the team. That's a tribute to these guys' will to win. I couldn't ask for anything better." </p>
<p>The Yale defense made a statement on the first two Crimson possessions, both of which went backwards. Junior middle guard Brandt Hollander put an end to the first one by forcing a scrambling Crimson quarterback Liam O'Hagan out of bounds 16 yards shy of a first down. On Harvard's second series the Bulldogs stuffed two straight runs by tailback Clifton Dawson. One was a five-yard loss on a Hollander tackle assisted by junior defensive lineman Jared Hamilton and one was a six-yard loss on an option toss that senior defensive end Brendan Sponheimer was in a perfect position to stop...</p>
<p>here's the last line of the piece (yes cosar, this is a SELECTIVE quotation)</p>
<p>"Perhaps it was a fitting atmosphere for the defeat Harvard was soon to be dealt from a side that just knew how to play better: last year at their tailgate and this year on the field. "</p>
<p>oh yah, f.scottie, congrats on beating yale and winning the ivy league championship. we gave you a run though! I look forward to going to more princeton games as this years was by far the best one I have been to. It was a great atmosphere. Hopefully more than 500 students from princeton will make the journey next time.</p>
<p>my congrats to you and your fellow yalies, as well. with mcleod around for two more years and the team now finally over the harvard "hump," the future looks bright for your bulldogs.</p>
<p>"my congrats to you and your fellow yalies, as well. with mcleod around for two more years and the team now finally over the harvard "hump," the future looks bright for your bulldogs."
Congrats to you too, scottie, on your share of the championship. Hard fought and deserved. And I'm with you, bulldog. The Yale-Princeton game was the best this year - and one of the best in my 20-plus years of Yale football.</p>
<p>i havent been to these boards in a while, but thanksgiving break will do that to ya.</p>
<p>as per the game: sadly, though i go to harvard, the weekend prompted myself and many others i know to repeatedly utter "i wish i went to yale". frankly, harvard screwed up royally this year.
hopefully these ridiculous changes are not permanent-and if they are, well every other year is in new haven.</p>
<p>other than that, though, i really do think that there is a party scene and its not terribly difficult to find. im still not sure why harvard gets a bad rap and i think its overly simplistic to say that oh, people are just jealous. granted im only a freshman and cant compare my experience to other peoples but overall the campus is a lot less socially awkward tha i wouldve thought.</p>
<p>now if only the administration could step it up...</p>