<p>I don’t agree with them being released unless they’re found innocent. Better to keep them in prison.</p>
<p>The death penalty is far more expensive than life in prison, on average (due to the horrendous legal costs of trying to make sure innocents aren’t executed). Fiscal conservatives should campaign for life in prison without parole.</p>
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Humans are fallible. If human were infallible, they would never wrongly convict. And if humans were infallible, we wouldn’t need the death penalty. If there is a death penalty there WILL be innocent people murdered by the United States of America.</p>
<p>^ What B Man 22 is saying is that he personally accepts being executed for something he didn’t do as a necessary price for keeping the death penalty.</p>
<p>“the criminals who get life without parole only to be released a few decades later”</p>
<p>How many of these do you know about? How many of them committed crimes again?</p>
<p>How do they get out with life without parole? They only way I can think of is a) declared innocent on appeal or b) pardoned by an executive official.</p>
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<p>It’s your belief that they don’t deserve to live. But to me, if they don’t deserve it, who else doesn’t? What harmful actions make your life worthless and which ones are acceptable? I know, I know, that pretty much everyone hates slippery slope arguments, but moral relativism is a slippery slope, especially when we have a legal system based on precedents.</p>
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<p>It’s not that don’t deserve to live. It’s that they deserve to die. They haven’t become “worthless” or anything, but they have proven to society that they are a malicious and destructive force. I guess you can say it’s an eye for an eye. Cause and effect; what happens is basically karma. There are other benefits to the death penalty (discrepancy aside) Closure to the family of the victim, deterrence, inability to commit another crime, among others.</p>
<p>“What about the criminals who get life without parole only to be released a few decades later? Better to give them the death penalty in that situation.”
there’s a very simple solution to this:make life with out parole actually = life with out parole [i gotta say, though, i’ve never actually heard of a situation like this…]. & uh, no it’s not better to give them the DP in that situation.</p>
<p>“What B Man 22 is saying is that he personally accepts being executed for something he didn’t do as a necessary price for keeping the death penalty.”
couldn’t have said it better myself ;)</p>
<p>“Cause and effect; what happens is basically karma.”
no…karma has nothing to do with the government killing a killer/rapist;human intervention has nothing to do with karma.</p>
<p>“inability to commit another crime”
life with out parole, in a high-security prison.</p>
<p>“closure to the family of the victim”
i doubt the pain of losing some one would go away. i, personally, would feel much better that the person who killed my loved one would be some where all alone rotting in misery for the next 50+ years, never to hurt any one again.</p>
<p>When I say basically karma, I mean basically karma. Not IS karma…it’s akin to it. </p>
<p>Life without parole you say? May you be enlightened: [Victim’s</a> family protests killer’s release - The Macomb Daily News: Breaking news coverage for Macomb County, Michigan](<a href=“‘s clothing – Macomb Daily”>http://macombdaily.com/articles/2008/11/27/news/srv0000004150221.txt)</p>
<p>Obviously, closure can applied to the above article. ;)</p>
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<p>again, there is a very simple solution. make life in prison ACTUALLY life in prison. <em>there</em> is one way to amend the system. make it so there is a zero chance of a ‘life in prison’ criminal getting a chance at parole. maybe i didn’t make that very clear the first time…</p>
<p>& the man SAID IT HIMSELF.</p>
<p>“He deserves to die in prison.”"</p>
<p>not “he deserves to die a painless & quick death.”</p>
<p>That guy was let out by an executive official. The same thing can happen to people on death row.</p>
<p>I agree that dieing for a murder is fair. But that has nothing to do with the death penalty in America. If you support the death penalty you support the wasting of taxpayer dollars and the murder of innocent citizens.</p>
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<p>You actually think that people should be killed for non-murder crimes? </p>
<p>I’m not even joking when I say I am actually scared for the future of this country. We have so many dumb and psycho people. It’s scary. Everyone is so angry. Just turn on the news.</p>
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<p>LLife without parole isn’t the worst possible sentence. Double life without parole and others are worse. When we eliminate the death penalty we’re probably just going to create some new type of term terminology that just means they are in there for life no matter what.</p>
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<p>Yeah, kind of like removing wisdom teeth or tonsils or a severely infected limb.</p>
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<p>For the record, most people that get life sentences in prison do eventually die. The difference is that before they die they spend a long amount of time in an uncomfortable little box. People that get the death penalty are spared that time in the box.</p>
<p>Perhaps you could think of it as an extra 60 (or whatever) years of purgatory.</p>
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<p>I’ll handle the last sentence.
- Sure it gives closure for the family. Pure vengeance. Please take your time machine back 2000 years ago.
- The death penalty does not deter crime. I will give you the stats if you want.
- Someone in personal confinement for life cannot commit another crime except suicide.</p>
<p>Suicide is legal fyi.</p>
<p>Let’s play a game.</p>
<p>What do you think is the worst possible thing a government can do to it’s people? </p>
<p>I know I have my answer.</p>
<p>Killing it’s own citizens. </p>
<p>This is reason enough to eliminate the death penalty. Seriously. We shouldn’t even have to go over the moral grounds, it’s blatant racism, wasteful costs, etc. The fact is the United States state governments (A.K.A. you and me) have killed innocent citizens. Think about that. You are indirectly killing innocent people.</p>
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<p>True, all states have removed the charges. However it is still considered criminal in common law.</p>
<p>And, I was just making a point.</p>
<p>Obviously, life without parole doesn’t work. Once it gets tweaked that way, come try arguing again, since it might actually happen this time.</p>
<p>[RealClearPolitics</a> - Keep Life Without Parole, Life After Death](<a href=“http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/08/02/keep_life_without_parole_life_after_death_97733.html]RealClearPolitics”>Keep Life Without Parole, Life After Death | RealClearPolitics)</p>
<p>^I thought this was pretty interesting. It talks about the consequences of eliminating the death penalty.</p>
<p>And you don’t think RAPE is a crime punishable by death? How dare you call ME psycho?</p>
<p>On the “die in prison thing”…remember that living is a gift that you receive everyday. You might be on death row, but it’s a hell of a lot more than being dead.</p>
<p>That source isn’t at all biased. Shakes head and closes link.</p>
<p>Um yeah I’m against it but I can at least see where you are coming from when you want an eye for an eye. That’s sort of natural. But to kill someone for something other than killing someone is asinine. Give me a break. </p>
<p>But great job not addressing my last post.</p>