Tookie Williams

<p>what's y'all opinion on this? should the man be executed? I've my own opinions, but let's hear yours. don't make this into a capital punishment debate, because it's not.</p>

<p>well... do you really think he would have gone all anti-gang if he wasnt behind bars...i think not.</p>

<p>but on the other hand, prison is for reform SO i think he should get a 2nd chance without us being all skeptical</p>

<p>ok, you guys are on top of the news. stop playing your word games and read up</p>

<p>I think he has honestly reformed. Children's books? You have to be sincere to write like that. But the only thing is doesn't he refuse to give up gang membership or something?</p>

<p>This may sound a little Ivory Tower, but I think the premise behind the death penalty is totally flawed. As a society, we should set an example and show that we do not resort to violence to solve our problems. As long as he's locked away for the rest of his life, I see no reason to execute him.</p>

<p>However, if he killed one of my relatives, I would probably pay someone to kill him.</p>

<p>But that's because of the emotion, etc. behind it. The death penalty is not meant to "punish" criminals. It is not meant to be cruel or to please anybody. The argument is that he is still a threat to society, and by executing him we can make society safer/better. So the question lies there, would he still be a threat in prison for life?</p>

<p>i dont believe in the death penalty. as long as they are behind bars in tight security then they wont harm anyone. i think its probably more of a punishment for the prisoner to stay behind bars his whole life than to die.</p>

<p>you commit multiple murders... you die, it should be as simple as that and you should be killed without the 20 year anticipation phase. Yea it might be cruel, it might be a bad example for society but these people are killers so who cares...</p>

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<p>madonna wrote kaballah children's books... does she truly know anything about the religion? that's debateable</p>

<p>Chances are other people wrote those books for her. Publicity.</p>

<p>I doubt Tookie Williams had a team of writers to portray him as a "nice guy."</p>

<p>And terrybhs06, that is not the purpose of the death penalty. You may feel it should be, but as of now, constitutionally, it is not. And the 20 year anticipation phase is so that wrongful deaths are not given out. Innocent people have died before on death row. I think just the possibility of that happening warrants the eradication of the death penalty.</p>

<p>You should watch the movie about him, its called Redemption.</p>

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<p>yea he does... they're called his b*tches</p>

<p>He deserves to die. The guy murdered a man and then bragged about it to his friends. Then later he killed some koreans. He's spawned one of the most violent street gangs in America.</p>

<p>But that ISN'T the purpose of the death penalty! He is no longer a threat, and even the small threat of any maximum security guarded prisoner escaping is far outweighed by the good he has done while in prison, and indications that he will NOT escape for this reason.</p>

<p>-You kill people > You are sentenced the death penalty > You die
-What does it say about our legal system if we make exceptions for one person. I don't care if he is reformed. He committed a crime and because of that crime, he was given a punishment. Nothing can change what he has done. If he wasn't caught, would he be reformed today? No.
-If Scott Peterson says he's sorry and reformed does that make it ok and, as a society, we should just give him life in prison? No.
-He deserves to reap his consequence for his action.</p>

<p>Gospy,</p>

<p>Death penalty is NOT any more punitive than life in prison, legally speaking. Williams would not have reformed if he weren't caught, but he was, and he has, so he is no longer so much of a threat and detriment to society that we must execute him. You may not be Christian (I'm not), but WWJD?</p>

<p>He needs to be punished for the lives he took in the past. Actions have consequences. He deserves to die.</p>

<p>Is no one reading what I wrote? You cannot base the decision to kill him on the depravity of his crime. Capital punishment is to ensure that he doesn't do more harm.</p>

<p>zogoto:</p>

<p>Well, Jesus would probably smite him. He certainly wouldn't be saved, that's for sure.</p>

<p>Kill the bastard. There is no jesus</p>