The EPSO Dilemma - CIE, AP, or Both?

Here’s what the counselor said:
Hi Kelsey,
We consider students in the context of the curriculum they have available to them at their high school, so if you do not have AP classes available, we will not expect you to have taken them. We look for students to have taken advantage of at least some of the most rigorous courses available through their high school, so if dual enrollment is the top curriculum available, that is a great way to challenge yourself.
I hope this is helpful to you!
Kind regards,
Mary Beth

Dual Enrollment it is, I suppose. Should I try to self study one additional AP to surprise them or should I use that energy for an extracurricular?

As noted upthread, your focus should be to take the most rigorous courses available at your highschool and making sure you have taken the recommended levels of courses that the most selective colleges on your list recommend. I would not concern myself with getting college credit for the courses. You want to get accepted with money. It appears that you are not on track or not able to fulfill the foreign language recommendations (at some schools, requirements) at your high school. You should focus on getting that done. Also touch base with your GC and verify that they will state that you are taking the most rigorous courses your highschool offers when they fill out the college recommendation forms for you. That is important.

In addition to getting all of those recommended courses on your transcript, taking at least a course or two in a more advanced level than offered at your school in the field of your interest would be a stein move. It would definitively show your interest to “go beyond “ in that area. I would not load up with things that do not have that focus in sight. That shot gun approach does not work well. Yes, an internship or job or something in such a field would work well too.

Having a part time job is a valuable EC. Again, add this to a note to write to your GC on things to add in that Rec. Some things have a lot more impact coming from another person and the application recs do count heavily in admissions. You want to make it very easy and certain for the GC and teachers to write these recommendations. Having a “cheat sheet” addressing valuable points would be appreciated and the only way these people are certain to remember all of these things if they even no about them. They will appreciate having those notes. It would be a big thing in your favor to have it right out there that due to divorce, family finances are right and you are working to meet a lot of your expenses and helping out.

The NPCs for each college are the most accurate way to find out what you can expect from them in terms money. Unfortunately, the formulas do not work well if your parents are divorced, remarried, have their own business. Schools that require CSS PROFILE, Not only want to have your Custodial parent’s financial info, they want that of your Non Custodial Parent and spouse most of the time. Yes, if you have a step parent in the picture, what they earn and own is taken into consideration even if there is a prenuptial contract saying they aren’t giving you a dime. I’ve seen financial aid sunk by that situation. Also, primary home values are included by most PROFILE schools while this is not included at all on the FAFSA. The best way to get a conservative estimate of expected contribution from a college’s NPC, if the NCP has not remarried, and the school is a PROFILE school, is to merge both parents financial information and decrease it by about 10%. From what you have said about your parents’ incomes, combined, they come to about $90-100k.

Look at some schools like Rice, maybe Hopkins as well as reach schools, that have started initiatives where are flat out waiving costs at certain income levels. You will likely do better in aid if you do get accepted.

Your letter comes off a bit pompous and I would delete phrases like “puff up my chest” and “highly influential “. Do state what your attributes are but stay modest in presentations. Let other recommendations blow that horn.

Have you looked into Questbridge?

You are doing very well in researching your options and situation. Good luck to you.

Use that energye extracurriculars, they matter a lot.
Keep your job. It’s seen as a strong EC.

  • The lab OR volunteering where you can have an impact. You don’t need 15 acticities. It’s notr about quantity but about what they show about you.
    Letter is fine except for paragraph described above (“puff up my chest” ea
    In addition, someone who hopes to be influential as a college graduate already is at the HS level. Are you making a positive impact now (at school, in your family, in your neighborhood, in your community…)

Aside from taking volunteer options when I can revolving around anywhere from animals to helping at a retirement home as well as being employed, can’t say that I do. I’m willing to improve that, but it doesn’t seem like it will come easy because highly selective colleges look specifically for activities not readily accessible and that ‘any student can do’.
I recognized the inflammation as well and will delete the second paragraph mostly. I will send it to the intern address first, I guess. If I don’t get a response in 2 days, I will contact professors.
Regarding income, do colleges consider gross income or net income? My father makes 45-50k a year but brings home significantly less because of the annual tax he has to file. My mother makes even less at around 20k a year and probably truly earns around 16-18k because of taxes as well.
I don’t know what a PROFILE college is and could find nothing on a PROFILE college upon research.
I don’t want 15 activities to kill myself in conjunction with classes that are already dragging me down. That’s why I wanted specifically science dual enrollment courses (and philosophy if it’s a strong class on a resume, but if it’s not I want no business with it)
I completely and totally understand that I need highly niched interests. Since I want to MAJOR in biochemistry most likely, I want biochemistry extracurriculars. I just need help in finding them. If I can figure out my school schedule for senior year, set up some appropriate summer plans, and understand my income in relation to how much aid and what kind of aid I would receive concerning these colleges I will be good to go. My current goals are:

  • Figuring out what DE courses I can take, how many, and when is best to take them. I don’t want to take 20 APs, 15 IBs, and 7 AICEs all at once. I do want to show selective colleges that I am capable, but I have a very hard time drawing the line between challenging yourself and taking a shotgun, well rounded approach that harms more than helps. To what extent do I need to be well rounded, and to what extent do I need to show a passion in one field?
  • Finding summer endeavors specifically regarding sciences and STEM. I have thought a lot about writing and art since I do very well in those fields, but since it is not related to my major, I have brushed them to the side.
  • Figuring out how much I’d have to pay a year. I don’t expect a full ride, but I do not want to drown in debt and suffer what my parents have for their entire lives as well as their parents. Each generation of my family, especially my mom’s side, have had a history of low income. I want to rise above it and attempt to bring them and many others out of their holes. Less than 10k a year is what I truly aim for if a full ride is not available. I do like having some financial responsibility and do not like feeling cradled and spoiled by the institution, though, so paying some is fine.

If I can figure out all of this and increase my chances at Vanderbilt substantially, I will be fine. There is hardly any way I’m taking no for an answer, as there has to be SOME approach for Vanderbilt that I can take to nearly secure a spot.

Actually, colleges DO NOT look for expensive activities. (In fact, kids who go on missions in far away countries when they never seem to realize there’s poverty in their hometown are NOT appreciated at all).
A job is a strong EC (especially if you keep the same for a while and can write eloquently about it, whether the tasks or the people you meet and the things you learn). Volunteering to help an animal shelter or a retirement home or at church/temple/mosque isn’t costly nor difficult to find. Making a positive impact on others is a personality feature, being aware of your gifts (be they music, chess, sports) and participating in school or city tournaments depends on your own inner drive. Granted you can’t play travel soccer and won’t be spending the summer in France or China, but adcoms don’t care.
The fact you want to major in biochemistry doesn’t mean you ought to do just biochem. If you get a volunteer role in a science lab (any science) you’re good on that front.
So, decide on 2 or 3 activities and do them thoroughly, starting now.

Keep an eye out for Questbridge: https://www.questbridge.org/high-school-students/national-college-match
You’ll need to start working on that application as soon as it is posted.
They’re a program that partners with the 40 most elite universities in the country. If you’re selected AND you match, you get a 4-year full ride scholarship.

You’re 100% correct that taking a billion Aps, AICE, DE classes is pointless - and even counterproductive.
You need a TOTAL of 6 classes per semester.
A MWF or TTH college class normally equals a MTWTHF HS class because there’s less contact time but way more homework and way less handholding. No one to remind you there’s a test or a paper due - you have a syllabus, you can read, you should have marked it in your semester planner when you got the syllabus. And no mini quiz if the class bombed the test - some classes have a 71 test average and the professor doesn’t feel bad, s/he feels mad the class studied so poorly.

Yes, Philosophy is seen as a strong, rigorous class. (Philosophy honors even more so). You could ask your GC whether it’ll fulfill the “Humanities/English” requirement since basically it’s reading and writing but at a whole other level compared to literature.

Colleges look at gross income. Everybody has to pay taxes.
CSS PROFILE is a very complete form where you enter each parent’s income as well as their partner/spouse + any investments, bonds, cars, etc + equity on house if you own one (or more) + if small business owners the value of your business. It’s very tricky for kids whose parents are divorced and small business owners, but very easy for kids who have single parents or married parents who rent a house/apartment and are employed by someone.

Alas, top colleges are “lottery schools”. You can’t “secure a spot”. It’s just not possible. Hopefully you WILL get in and will get into more universities to boot, but no one can predict that, unless they lie through their teeth. Any university with an acceptance rate 25% and below is “reach for everyone”.

You need to find two safeties first.
Since you like Vanderbilt, what do you like about it?

Alright, I got a response from a Chemistry teacher at Lee and he said he’s going to ask his Lab Supervisor how I can work with them this summer. He seemed rather optimistic about my offer, so I think I might get an opportunity here.

So far I’ve got this laid out for summer:

  • Volunteering at a retirement home (will continue into senior year)
  • Working at my job
  • Unpaid internship at a lab most likely
  • 2 DE classes (Philosophy/basic science and Beginning French 2)
  • STEM summer camp (I think I might have to drop this due to the Philosophy class being a full week class as well as having an exam at school on June 14, which is the last day of this camp. What do you think I should do?)

Are there any other activities you recommend me doing? Like I said, I’m good at art/writing and am pretty passionate about it (close second to science). Should I have some sort of other summer activity involving this? What do you think?

Definitely will keep an eye out for QuestBridge. I don’t know if I really fit into the criteria of first-gen/low income family though after what you’ve told me. My dad’s gross income is 45-50k, and my mom’s is 18-20k. They never married and I live with my dad. She doesn’t pay child support either. But if colleges only care about gross income, then I may not be what they look for in this regard ?

Tomorrow I’m going to talk with the counselor at Lee University because I tossed her this situation about my scheduling and she said she wanted to meet with me to sort it out. I’ll tell you what she proposes and we’ll go from there.

I really like Vanderbilt because:

  • It’s close to me
  • It’s competitive and promising for my future, so I won’t remain unchallenged
  • It’s quite willing to offer financial aid
  • It has one of the best science programs in the nation
  • It has a division that combines my two most favored interests (School of Arts and Science)
  • It has many extracurricular opportunities for students

Safeties that are a guarantee get in and are not competitive include UTK and Lee. Lee grants full rides for anyone with an ACT score as high as mine. A friend of mine has a full ride. However, I have plenty of competitive colleges in mind. Vanderbilt just seems to really draw me in for some reason.

I had a talk with the Dual enrollment admissions director at Lee today, and I was told a couple of things:

  • I cannot take Intro to Philosophy over the summer, as its a May only class. It would interfere with all of my classes right now.
  • I cannot take Intro to Philosophy Honors, as the honors program is specific to students enrolled at Lee and is not available for dual enrollment students.
    That being said, I’ll take Intro to Philosophy over the fall (1:10 - 2:25) and will have to see immediately about getting my spot at CSCC on Beginning French 2, as the Lee counselor needs a copy of the transcript from CSCC in order to enroll me in Intermediate French I and Cafe over the fall.
    As a result of this, I will take a science course over the summer. Lee doesn’t have any science courses appropriate over the summer, but CSCC does. Here’s their course directory for bio and chem classes over the summer. https://ssb.clevelandstatecc.edu/PROD/bwckschd.p_get_crse_unsec
    You can take a look and see what would be best for me considering my high school basic background of chemistry and AS cambridge biology 2 background in biology. Classes I was looking at include:
  • Bio 1010 and Bio 1010 Lab (introductory, would be taken if AS amounts to nothing)
  • Bio 2010 and Bio 2010 Lab (A&P 1)
  • Bio 2230 and Bio 2230 Lab (Microbiology)
  • Chem 1010 and Chem 1010 Lab (introductory, would guess I’d take this before moving on to general chemistry)
    If you see any other course you think would be better, do not hesitate to let me know.
    I was also thinking about taking a science course in the spring too, but since my spring schedule is so rigid, I would have to take a class after 3:30, which, again, puts CSCC as my only candidate. The only classes there I could take are:
  • Bio 2020 and Bio 2020 Lab (would have to take Bio 2010 in the summer for this, A&P 2)
  • Chem 1010 and Chem 1010 Lab (would take if hadn’t taken over the summer and can’t take above course)
    I will get more info on this possibly tomorrow, since I will be talking to the CSCC DE counselor about courses there.
    For now, I’d like your take.

Hello again,
I just got my schedule revised with the Cleveland State Community College Dual Enrollment Coordinator. Here is what we have planned for the summer and fall:

SUMMER:

  • General Chem I and Lab
  • Beginning French I (I couldn’t take II first)
    FALL:
  • Early U.S. History (7:30-8:50) (MW)
  • CAM Math 4 (9:50-11:10) (MWTRF)
  • General Bio I (12:00-1:20) (TR)
  • General Bio I Lab (1:30-4:20)(W)

We made these decisions after looking at Vanderbilt’s advised classes for incoming freshman majoring in biochemistry. They recommended the Chemistry, Biology, and the History you see above. For this reason, we had to drop Philosophy unfortunately.
QuestBridge is in my crosshairs for now and I will apply immediately when they open the application.
I am establishing an internship with Lee’s supervisor and will work with them over the summer.
I will probably drop the camp described previously that I had registered to attend, as there’s too much in my schedule now.
Now, I have a lot of exams to prepare for:

-AS Biology structured response (tomorrow)
-AP English Language Composition (Wed, May 22)
-AS Biology lab (Tue, May 21)
-Travel and Tourism (Tue, May 28)
-AS Biology multiple choice (Fri, June 14)

so I will be studying until my summer comes.

Prepare for General Chem I at CSCC by starting on the khan Academy AP Chem modules.

Your CCSC schedule isn’t good:
1° philosophy indicates rigor. it’s really too bad you’re not taking it.
2° drop early US history. You don’t need it, you already have 2 social science classes at your HS. Vanderbilt nor any college DO NOT require Early US History. They do want US history, which is part of your HS curriculum (it is, at every high school in the US).
3° no need to take CAM Math, AICE Math will be more advanced and more important (AICE Math should be precalc honors + parts of calc AB, AICE Further Maths should be Calc BC and further)
4° going overboard will NOT help you. That’s not how it works.

Break a leg !

To form my schedule, the counselor looked at the recommended courses Vanderbilt advises for freshman majoring in biochemistry at their school. They listed General Biology, General Chemistry, and some sort of U.S. history. When I speak with the Coordinator again I will ask her for the link to the source.
I will reconcile with her and try to move my schedule around to fit CSCC Philosophy on there or in the summer.
CAM math 4 is AICE math 4. That’s just how it looks on my schedule. I can’t move it, I have a strong obligation to take it. I am taking AICE math 6 in spring, which I have just been informed is the second half of Pure Mathematics 1. Math 4 and Math 6 are two halves of Pure Math 1, not Math Further.
I also forgot to put on the fall schedule Beginning French II, which I’ll take after Beginning French I. However, CSCC doesn’t have any class past French II. Lee doesn’t have any after class French in the spring to continue it that would fit with my schedule.
Kelli, the coordinator, had noted to me I could take a few courses in senior summer and they could still be shown to Vanderbilt in the time allotted provided I just show the transcript.
I’ll have to show Kelli your comments and see if she’s on board or wants to play devil’s advocate. Regardless, I’ll try to shape my schedule up to what you think is best as close as I can, I promise. I’m sure you’ve a lot of experience.

The transfer coordinator did a great job emulating a first-year schedule at Vanderbilt. The issue is that you’re not trying to copy what a 1st year at Vanderbilt would take - you’re trying to show your intellectual chops - ability and curiosity- compared to HS seniors who attend selective high schools and prep schools in order to gain entrance to Vanderbilt. The endeavors are different.
So, while the schedule is optimally reproducing the 1st year Venderbilt pre-reqs, it does not work to get you into Vanderbilt. You’re trying to emulate a Day/Boarding/Prep School Most Rigorous Schedule, sort of. You have your AICE courses, so your Dual Enrollment classes should be strategically chosen to show you are 100% able to compete with these top students, understand how these schools schedule, and that’s it, no need to overdo it.

French is sequential: you should really take a College French 2 class over the summer so that you can take the Intermediate sequence at Lee. Otherwise it’s a bit pointless - the goal isn’t to just take a random foreign language class at the college level but rather to bring you to a level as close to AP level as possible, keeping in mind your high school doesn’t offer it but you seem to have the inclination, the “chops” (intellectual curiosity and ability) for it. Which means College French 2 (Elementary, accelerated = equivalent to level 2-3 in high school, very compressed), then College French 3&4 (Intermediate1, Intermediate 2: Intermediate 1 = French 4, Intermediate 2 = AP.) Rigor comes from level reached, not just an accumulation of semesters.

If CAM Math 4 is AICE Math then good. AICE Math 4+6 are thus the full “ALevel”, right? Pure Maths ALevels, without the Further Maths A Levels, is that correct? Then you’re good. It’ll be very rigorous math, even if it’s not Further Maths!!

Lots of colleges don’t want you to take CC or other college classes after graduation - in California it can even get you rescinded. Indeed, colleges want to see how HS students handle college level classes, but once they’ve been admitted and graduate, they should take the next classes at “their” college.

Olin Fly in requires your GC to complete a recommendation for you. It can be done by the end of June, or in August-September, but you won’t be able to access the application till your GC nominates you and you probably want to spend some time on it while not in school.
https://admission.olin.edu/register/fly_in_nomination

If your talking about taking summer classes the summer after high school graduation talk to the college first. Depending on the college just taking 1 class after graduation before starting there can be all it takes to be classified as a transfer rather than a freshman which can make a difference with merit/aid, housing etc

Alright, I will try to reiterate my schedule to emulate rigor. I have emailed Kelli again copying what you said about the classes in the email. I will see if I can get a follow up.
Here is what I sent to her:

"Hello again Ms. Roach,

I am sorry to send so many emails without your response. I am receiving a hefty bit of advice from an online college counselor about the schedule we had worked out. Here is what he/she has to say:

[YOUR ABOVE RESPONSE WAS INSERTED HERE]

Given this information, is it too late to schedule a follow-up for additional consultation? I had a few ideas regarding this counselor’s ideas:

  • Trying to take a summer philosophy class?
  • Trying to take French II immediately after French I? -Trying to take a following Intermediate French I class during the spring at Lee? (I know you don't know Lee's schedule fully but you might give me an idea as to the difficulty)

I apologize about all of this complication. I will do what I can to try and minimize the work needed to complete the schedule.

Thank you,
-XXXXXX"

The only problem is that getting up to Intermediate French seems impossible with my schedule. I can’t take BOTH beginning French I and Beginning French II in the summer. I have to take one with each semester. I am taking French II in the fall, I forgot to put it in the above post. The only Intermediate French Lee has in the spring is during school hours, and both of them are too early in my schedule. That is why I was wondering about taking Intermediate during the summer, but I guess not.
I’ll see if I can take an intro to Philosophy some time either in summer or fall. CSCC doesn’t have an early morning Philosophy to replace Early U.S. history, so I’ll have to put something else there or try to rearrange my schedule. The only Intro to Philosophy they have is online, so I don’t know if that would be much harder than an actual Philosophy class considering you have more engagement. On the up side, I could take that during the fall as well. However, the coordinator seems to have more access to more classes than I do on her own computer, so I’ll schedule a future meeting with her next week to look into it.
AICE A level Mathematics is Pure Mathematics AND Probability and Statistics. I’ve taken Statistics this year and Pure Math I is next year, so when the exam comes, it will have both AICE stats and Pure math, so I guess it really is A level. That’s nice.
Why exactly should I fly in at Olin? It says it’s an engineering school. I’m not really into engineering. They don’t have any major other than engineering as it says on Niche.
I would also like your opinion considering college rankings on QuestBridge. Here are their partners: https://www.questbridge.org/college-partners
What factors should I consider in ranking these colleges? How would you go about ranking them?

I just got a response from the general admissions counselor at Vanderbilt in regards to my question “Would I be considered a transfer student if I enroll in a course over the summer?”

“Thank you for your email. If the summer class is a dual enrollment class, meaning that it counts toward your high school graduation, I don’t think it would make you a transfer student. If you enrolled at a college/university and take 12 or more credit hours, then you are considered a transfer applicant at Vanderbilt.”

Does this mean I should refrain from taking one or two of my dual enrollment courses? I had this lined up:

  • General Chem I and Lab (3 credits)
  • General Bio I and Lab (3 credits)
  • Beginning French I (3 credits)
  • Beginning French II (3 credits)

This doesn’t take into account the open spot at the beginning of my fall semester and the fact that I need Philosophy. What should I do?

You do not need to take philosophy. Yes it might be recommended by people and show rigor. However if your high school doesn’t offer it and the college doesn’t say you need it for admissions your fine with out it. It is a nice elective which helps show rigor but not a requirement. Basically if it is easy enough to take it is good to take but it isn’t bad not to take.

Do you pay for dual enrollment classes? If they are free (my daughter’s were all free including books) if you take them after graduation is the cost an issue?

There’s a grant for TN students where the full tuition of the first two classes are covered. I think it applies to summer, but am not sure. After the first two, the third has no grant money to cover it, but the following classes will cover $100 per credit hour.
Considering what the Vanderbilt admissions counselor said, should I limit my classes to three to prevent any consequences associated with transfer students?

The key words here are “enrolled in college”, ie., NOT dual enrolled. Any class that is credited toward HS graduation does not count toward the credits, however classes taken AFTER HS graduation (ie., summer after senior year) WOULD count.

Can’t you take Beginning French 2 this summer? You’ve already covered the content of College French 1 through your HS courses and you could rent the textbook ahead of time to review a little (+ English grammar for students of French is a very useful book). Sure, it’d be better for you to take both French 1+2 this summer, with review first and then jumping into the harder material, but since it’s not possible, review on your own and jump into French 2. Then see how you can take Intermediate French at Lee in the Fall (and perhaps Spring)? The key is to get to at least the intermediate level, because it’s level that matters.

Philosophy: yes, it’d indicate rigor, but if you can’t take it, you can’t. It’s not like Intermediate French, which is considered a “core” course and is on the list of courses you need (well, more precisely, foreign language at the intermediate low or intermediate high level). Philosophy is a kind of “extra” I’d suggested because you were trying to build a schedule that demonstrated your ability to handle rigor.

If that really is the case, where it only counts if it’s not towards my high school graduation, then aren’t ALL of those classes going to count? I don’t NEED any science, French, or philosophy for graduation, because none of those classes are prerequisites needed. I take it because it shows rigor, like you said. If I really wanted to, I probably couldn’t take any class in the fall and I’d be “fine” when it comes to graduating. That concerns me.
I’ll try to see with Kelli about:

  • trying to take French II in the summer if possible… She had told me it wasn’t before but I will try again by suggesting my study methods.
  • trying to take a philosophy. I really don’t want to sacrifice those science classes, but if philosophy is a better choice, I will try. I want to be as rigorous as I can while still choosing the best courses for selective colleges to look at me. I guess I can’t have the best of both worlds. I’ll let you know what the coordinator says. I have a meeting with her Wednesday at 1. I’ll show her this thread if it helps and see if we can work it out again.

It’s not about “needing the credits” but about where you’re enrolled. Are you enrolled in HS? Yes. Then the credits are part of your HS schedule and count toward HS graduation.
If you’re in HS = these college courses are dual enrollment, NOT “college classes toward college graduation at the college where you are enrolled” so they all count as “toward HS graduation”. They don’t count toward the transfer total. You can take DE English or AP English, it’s all the same wrt your application, you’re still a freshman.
Taking 12 credits of college classes AFTER HS makes you a transfer.
To sum up: college courses taken while in high school don’t make you a transfer student, college courses taken AFTER HS graduation (even during the summer between senior year and college freshman year) do count. => DO NOT take courses in any college after you graduate HS. Take them BEFORE you graduate HS.

You need to meet the pre-req for (College) Elementary French 2, which is either (College) Elementary French 1 or 2 years in HS (or a placement test). You have the pre-req. If the class is offered, you don’t have to take Elementary French 1 (it’d be a nice refresher for you but since it blocks the sequence, you should just go into French 2. DO specify that you HAVE taken French 1+2 in HS so you qualify for Elementary French 2, you’re not going to jump into 2 without formal preparation, you did take 2 years of HS French, it’s just that most selective colleges expect much more.)

Sciences: for future STEM majors, highly selective colleges expect 1 year each of biology, chemistry, and physics (preferably honors, accelerated, etc) + 1 more advanced class in one of those. You could take Biology 1 in the Fall and Chemistry 1 in the Spring and you’d have TWO advanced classes.

What about courses in the summer? I am taking a required class during the summer (Personal Finance & Economics) but not General Chem I or whatever French I’m allowed to take. Would those count?
I can also take Philosophy over the summer from what I saw on the CSCC class directory, but it’s entirely an online class. Should I take Philosophy online? That seems like it would detract from the experience of philosophy, you know… Debating, in class involvement. But if it’s feasible and looks good, I’ll do it.
I haven’t had exactly two years of HS French. I had one full year of it, but the first semester was “French 1” and the other was “French 2”. I still have all of my work from that class too. Does this mean I’m still only eligible for French I? I’ll emphasize during my meeting that French is a necessity.
Should I really take Chemistry in the spring instead of the summer? I have many AICEs in the spring: Math 6, Literature, Global Perspectives, none of which can move to other periods. I figured Chemistry would be very hard to maintain in that same period. That’s why I’m trying to reserve DE classes for the fall and summer. So is it bad taking things over the summer?