<p>This guy lied to get access to a scarce resource, that somebody else would have gotten if he hadn't lied--specifically, another transfer.</p>
<p>Just a note with regard to getting caught: it's my recollection that "Andreas Alrea," the fake from 1976, only gave up because he had enrolled in Directed Studies, and that was too much work for him. He might well have lasted if he had taken regular courses.</p>
<p>Equal opportunity, not necessarily equal outcome, armybratkl ... ;) </p>
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<p>But he was Yale-calibre -- many of his professors at Yale were sufficiently impressed with him. Of course, the ends do not justify the means.</p>
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<p>The other student that was rejected because of Maharaj could have impressed his/her professors also. </p>
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<p>This is what I've been trying to say. Everybody has the "right" to an equal "opportunity". Opportunity, however, is conditional.</p>
<p>The overwhelming majority of applicants to schools like Yale would be able to graduate from Yale if they were accepted.
The fact that the student who lied his way in impressed professors is meaningless. The same would have been true of whomever's place he took.</p>
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This is what I've been trying to say. Everybody has the "right" to an equal "opportunity". Opportunity, however, is conditional.
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<p>I would wonder what you all think about AA. Not to divert the thread, but it seems that many of the arguments made--that even though Maharaj did well at college, another student would have done even better--are commonly used to argue against AA, specifically the assertion that: </p>
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<p>"Equal opportunity, not necessarily equal outcome"</p>
<p>Yes, and equal opportunity is different from a right.</p>
<p>"I would wonder what you all think about AA."</p>
<p>I think it's a little different from stealing.</p>
<p>Although he did go to extremes by forging his applications, I would have to say that for someone to pull it off, he has to be smart. I mean in the end he did get into an Ivy League, even he ended up handcuffed, but out of how many people that sent applications, and HE got in.</p>
<p>Actually, Andreas Alrea turned himself into the Dean of Timothy Dwight College (one of the Yale’s twelve residential colleges) near the end of his first semester at Yale. Alrea did so after several of his classmates came to him asking if what they had heard was true, that he had faked his way through the admissions process. Apparently, Alrea had shared his true identity with his girlfriend, also a Timothy Dwight resident. She had shared the secret with her roommate and her roommate had spilled the beans to some of her friends. Alrea realized that he would be unable to continue his charade and departed Yale after the winter break. Surprisingly, he was neither expelled nor prosecuted for his actions.</p>
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Probably because it would have been too embarassing for Yale–it looked too much like they accepted him because they believed his claim to be worth millions.</p>
<p>That is not the same story or person. This thread is a year old.</p>
<p>Well, it is the same, sort of. Stubby seems to want to correct the record on why Andreas Alrea left Yale back in 1976 (he posted the same thing on two threads). I was interested in the Alrea case, because I was in the same freshman class, and as you can imagine, it caused a big hoo-ha on campus when it came out.</p>