The Most Well-Rounded Undergraduate Experiences

[Rny2]

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@hawkette

What kind of grade would you give to U Chicago and the schools rated “1” which typically draw about 1000 (or fewer) fans to a home football game? Heck, at many of the schools rated “5,” you’ll find that many in the ladies bathroom…

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<p>hawkette,</p>

<p>if you’d read the passage which I’d quoted, you would have realized that I was addressing intramural and club athletic participation, not the varsity events. </p>

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@hawkette

I think you may be underrating what goes on athletically on these campuses.

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<p>:P</p>

[RML]

<p>But why would a Pomona student watch a UCLA footbal game, for instance?</p>

[lesdiablesbleus]

<p>cc54546,</p>

<p>Why would a Pomona student PAY significantly more (general admissions fairr) to attend a UCLA or a USC game unless he has family connections to the university? UCLA and USC students attend their own games in droves because the admission is either free or offers vastly reduced prices.</p>

<p>In fact, Duke basketball games are FREE to Duke students, staff and faculty. If you are not affiliated with Duke presently, YOU CANNOT ATTEND A BASKETBALL GAME. A valid Duke ID needs to be presented at Cameron Indoor Stadium in order to be allowed in.</p>

[barrons]

<p>Anyone can buyDuke season tickets. Just need to make a small donation–about $7000 right now.</p>

<p>[Ticket</a> Information - Iron Dukes](<a href=“Iron Dukes - Duke University”>Iron Dukes - Duke University)</p>

[Bay]

<p>hawkette,</p>

<p>You might be the one underestimating the intramural/club programs that go on at some colleges ;):</p>

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Intramural Sports, Club Sports, and Individual Activities
Through the residential colleges, Yale offers one of the most extensive intramural athletics programs in the country. Intramural games are open to everyone, from one-time high school stars to untried novices, and each year more than 2,500 students participate. The twelve colleges compete throughout the year in over thirty sport activities; the college placing highest overall wins the coveted Tyng Cup.</p>

<p>Student-run club sports provide an important resource for those who want to participate in a program with a flexible schedule or in sports that are not offered by most colleges. These include many noncompetitive activities such as mountaineering, fishing, and kayaking, as well as competitive sports like biking, sailing, skiing, trap and skeet, golf, rugby, ultimate frisbee, and equestrian sports. Approximately six hundred students are active in thirty-five club sports over the course of the year.

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<p>I agree with you that the attraction of football/basketball at Yale is dwarfed by that of Cal, but my point was that the identical sporting events exist at Yale as Cal, so students who want to partake in those spectator sports have just as many opportunities. I don’t see how drawing a larger crowd necessarily makes a college more “well-rounded.”</p>

<p>While I have visited both campuses, I have never spent any time assessing the social opportunities at either one, so perhaps you are right about Cal having more to offer on the weekends. I just haven’t heard about it.</p>

[par72]

<p>For Private Universities, most of the top well rounded schools have the best alumni giving rates. Duke, Notre Dame, Dartmouth, Princeton, and Stanford. For Private LAC’s, Holy Cross, Davidson, Williams, Bowdoin usually have giving rates >50%, Holy Cross was close to 54% this year. These schools all have great athletic tradition within their respective conferences/leagues.</p>

[Cuse0507]

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In fact, Duke basketball games are FREE to Duke students, staff and faculty. If you are not affiliated with Duke presently, YOU CANNOT ATTEND A BASKETBALL GAME. A valid Duke ID needs to be presented at Cameron Indoor Stadium in order to be allowed in.

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<p>Are you sure? I went to a Duke game last year, and I go to UNC. Same with the friends of mine that came along.</p>

[noobcake]

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@Cuse0507

Are you sure? I went to a Duke game last year, and I go to UNC. Same with the friends of mine that came along.

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<p>How did you get in? Were you in the student section?</p>

[Pizzagirl]

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There is no comparison. Outside of the Harvard-Yale match, Ivy League football games have a hard time attracting more than 10k. Beyond friends and family, almost nobody cares and there is zero national consequences to these games. By contrast, weaker major conference programs like Stanford, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt attract 3-4x that and even Duke attracts 2-3x.

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<p>For the millionth time, Hawkette, “zero national consequence” has very little to do with whether the people observing in the stands are having fun. </p>

<p>Northwestern has been promoting itself as “Chicago’s Big Ten Sports Powerhouse,” presumably to fill their stadium more. If they attract more people than just the typical attendees of NU students and alumni who live nearby, it won’t be any more <em>fun</em>. It will just be more <em>crowded.</em> That’s all.</p>