<p>“Talk to the Hand” is a phrase popularized by Martin Lawrence in his 1992 sitcom, “Martin.”
It is how I feel for my child right now, no one is listening.</p>
<p>All you are “exchanging” is information about a hypothetical daughter who is claimed to be an art student who has never shown a portfolio to a single professor who can help her, never bothered to meet with the chair of her own department who could help her, never gone to a department open house where she could meet people who could help her. In small departments especially, it is my experience faculty and department chairs love to know their future majors so they can guide them and HELP them.</p>
<p>And then this hypothetical daughter goes running to her mama claiming she has problems so her mama can b**** at a bunch of strangers, none of whose children have experienced anything like it.</p>
<p>But this child can’t transfer, because she doesn’t exist.</p>
<p>Isn’t the definition of insanity to keep doing the same thing the same way and expecting a different result?</p>
<p>if CR’s daughter can’t learn to approach her situation differently she’ll never get a different result.</p>
<p>Same with us, I suppose…?</p>
<p>She did go the administration as a freshman would and should: her advisor and arts registrar who manages the dept… She was told to make appts. with faculty through art registrar. Registrar didn’t feel like it. Head of advisors in advising said to go to art registrar. That is the protocal. What exactly does the advisor get paid to do??? Daughter is finishing finals and her papers, what AU students are supposed to do, not run around trying to get classes they should automatically be getting. Department doesn’t support the potential art majors-OR this this would have already been in place.</p>
<p>No freshman should have to defend her major or fight battles with upper level administration to get required courses. We pay the same full tuition as SIS, Kogod, Comm… How anyone can defend this is beyond me.</p>
<p>Funny that the MFA grad I met last weekend went through all of the same hassles with the classes there which she said was difficult to deal with and she was 28 years old.
Not 17 years old like my daughter having to deal with it.</p>
<p>Just called art department, and they said there are no open houses for art majors? Where are you all getting this info???</p>
<p>“She was told to make appts. with faculty…”</p>
<p>'nuf said.</p>
<p>Nuff said??? She was told to make appts. with faculty THRU the art registrar who won’t.</p>
<p>If this is going on in other departments where students can’t get their prereqs because of upperclassmen, should the whole freshman class transfer? (according to this thread?)</p>
<p>Again, every single faculty member in the art department has posted office hours. In fact, in most cases, she wouldn’t even have to make an appointment - she could just walk in, portfolio in hand. Problem solved. It worked in every single case with my d. (in one case, she was told that their lead piano teacher, a concert pianist who teaches part-time, was booked up for more than a year, and that there were other requirements she’d have to meet in order to even be considered. 10 minutes was all it took.) </p>
<p>It’s easier to cry to mama. From the art faculty’s point of view, this person doesn’t exist. Mine, too.</p>
<p>Nothing we say can resolve CR’s daughter’s issues. Can we please just ignore CRs posts and move on?
Does anyone happen to know if the dorms will be accepting package delivery over the break? S would like to order books( not from the bookstore) and have them delivered to the dorm. Thanks</p>
<p>I asked my S the same question, and he asked me to hold off on sending some things he wants for next semester until just before he goes back to school. He said something about packages being “warehoused” over break and he is worried about actually receiving them.</p>
<p>By the way, S was very disappointed in his efforts to sell his books to the bookstore after exams. Some of his texts were 'packets" as compared to actual books, and those are not accepted back at all. Of course, the packets are maybe a bit less expensive because the professors give them the chapters from various sources without making them buy multiple expensive texts. But he was offered only $5 for his Calc 221 book. He decided to keep it and try to sell it directly to another student next semester instead.</p>
<p>Boysx3:</p>
<p>I’m not sure about mail over break, but I know I NEVER sell back my books to the AU store. I’ve never gotten them to take more than 1/3 of the books back and when they do it’s for measly money (even for book buy back).</p>
<p>Recently I’ve started using Amazon (they give you credit towards future Amazon purchases ie. future textbooks) or Facultybooks.com which sends you boxes/shipping packages for free and then you send them your books. They even pay for shipping if you return more than 3 books to them. And they let you see what they’ll be paying you, so if you don’t like the number, you can look for a better deal somewhere else.</p>
<p>Thanks for that info AU transfer. My S sold his books at Book Buy Back and got $78.00. Considering I bought the books used from Amazon, I didn’t think that was too bad, but we’ll have to check out their buy back program in the future.</p>
<p>Thanks, AUTransfer. I will show him your post.</p>
<p>Of the four friends of my daughter’s who are looking to transfer out: one Biology,two fine arts, one art history. All share similar sentiments that AU only supports majors like SIS, COMM and Kogod. Can’t get classes they need, weak departments, and parents also do not feel they are getting money’s worth. AU needs to support all majors not just the ones they are known for. They could avoid the high yearly transfer rate.</p>
<p>I challenge ANYONE to make a list of schools where (like American) 69% of the student body receives need-based financial aid and has an 88.4% freshman retention rate. </p>
<p>(Relative to other such schools, the transfer out rate after freshman year at American is MINISCULE.)</p>
<p>The fact that 'red’s hypothetical daughter can’t talk to an art professor about her own art for 10 minutes has nothing to do with it. (Students should NEVER talk to faculty -after all, that’s what the latter get paid for. Rather, they should remain invisible, so that the faculty don’t even know they are there. Because they are not.)</p>
<p>If each student looks at her own academic Blackboard, she will see all the departmental events and open houses for their listed majors posted on a weekly bases.)</p>
<p>The four aforementioned students who are in the process of transferring out also did not receive requested help from advisors or their specific depts. One also was never detripled and is very unhappy with her living conditions. This is what $48,00 a year gets you?? Nothing can rationalize this. These are freshman in an unresponsive incerdibly expensive situation. Don’t expect freshman to run around to dept heads and faculty. They should be getting help appropriately from the advisors!! There are NO open houses. There is unassigned faculty to the courses. There is No advisor assistance. There is NO registrar assistance. Faculty is unavailable and doesn’t respond to emails daughter sent at the beginning of the school year to the studio art program director when her problems with getting classes surfaced. Discouragement from EVERY direction.
'I can’t do anything about it" is the answer you get or no response.</p>