Again, Americans don’t care because they have no idea about most of them and zero interest in going to any of them…, but wait!!!
Michigan is in the top 20!!! Berkeley is where it should be! Never mind, forget USNews, forget the undergraduate rankings, forget that Duke, Dartmouth, and other top private schools are not listed, this is THE definitive list!!! OMGeeeee!!!
World
Rank Institution Country/Region National
Rank Quality of
Education Alumni
Employment Quality of
Faculty Publications Influence Citations Broad
Impact Patents Score
1 Harvard University USA 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 100
2 Stanford University USA 2 9 2 4 5 3 3 4 10 98.66
3 Massachusetts Institute of Technology USA 3 3 11 2 15 2 2 2 1 97.54
4 University of Cambridge United Kingdom 1 2 10 5 11 6 12 13 48 96.81
5 University of Oxford United Kingdom 2 7 13 10 7 12 7 9 15 96.46
6 Columbia University USA 4 13 6 9 13 13 11 12 4 96.14
7 University of California, Berkeley USA 5 5 21 6 10 4 4 7 29 92.25
8 University of Chicago USA 6 11 14 8 17 16 12 22 141 90.70
9 Princeton University USA 7 4 15 3 72 25 24 33 225 89.42
10 Cornell University USA 8 12 18 14 24 15 25 22 11 86.79
11 Yale University USA 9 10 26 11 18 8 35 20 49 86.61
12 California Institute of Technology USA 10 6 328 7 53 9 19 25 13 84.40
13 University of Tokyo Japan 1 16 3 38 14 19 31 29 7 78.23
14 University of Pennsylvania USA 11 20 4 28 8 18 14 9 14 77.60
15 University of California, Los Angeles USA 12 28 27 13 6 14 8 6 9 76.91
16 Johns Hopkins University USA 13 18 84 16 4 11 5 3 2 71.60
17 Kyoto University Japan 2 22 16 24 30 42 88 60 16 68.60
18 New York University USA 14 32 22 18 47 29 46 32 43 68.39
19 University of Michigan, Ann Arbor USA 15 24 17 140 3 20 6 14 12 68.36
20 Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich Switzerland 1 17 64 17 44 27 39 79 57 66.93
21 University of California, San Diego USA 16 36 567+ 19 16 5 15 15 17 66.59
22 Northwestern University USA 17 163 12 104 27 34 27 26 42 66.56
23 Hebrew University of Jerusalem Israel 1 15 164 15 120 97 368 143 35 65.71
24 Seoul National University South Korea 1 367+ 9 218+ 36 163 146 112 6 64.82
25 University of Wisconsin–Madison USA 18 29 29 34 21 24 22 27
It is idiotic to compare US News ranking with CRWU. US News ranking is for undergraduate education. In other words, which college would provide the best undergraduate education? When you understand this, you will understand why Princeton and Yale are consistently ranked at the top because they indeed provide the best undergraduate education money can buy. With regard to graduate and research, you have to look at each department and discipline. You would be an idiot to choose the school for your MS or PHD study based on blanket ranking like the CRWU. For example, UCSD is ranked #1 or #2 in Neuroscience. You would never know that by looking at CRWU. Therefore, CRWU is just useless.
“Princeton and Yale are consistently ranked at the top [in USNWR]” (#45)
In full context, the referenced post emphasized the value of using an appropriate ranking when choosing an undergraduate college. However, it can only be said that the above schools are notably for being consistently at or near the top in their own category. The National Liberal Arts Colleges category as well has its own “top,” and colleges in this category are, essentially by definition, the most purely undergraduate focused schools in the country.
The CWUR ranking methodology is very similar to the ARWU methodology for ranking world universities. The former is produced in Saudi Arabia, the latter in the Peoples Republic of China. Both emphasize faculty research publication and citation volume, as well as faculty and alumni distinctions. Both purport to assess quality of education by measuring academic awards, medals, or prizes received by alumni (without distinguishing between graduate and undergraduate program alumni). CWUR measures alumni CEO positions as well as alumni (and faculty) academic awards.
Existing global rankings have been criticized for “focus on research aspects rather than teaching, and on entire institutions rather than programmes and departments” https://euobserver.com/education/29189
The latter criticism could apply to the USNWR rankings as well
(since the overall institutional rankings don’t necessarily reflect the relative quality of specialized programs, for example in engineering or business.)
^^^ Interesting link, the EU funding a plan, in hopes of raising the ranking of EU schools. But guess what, they run into the same issues all of the ranking systems have with their new U-multirank ranking system,…
The end of the above article has a link to the U-multrank website. It’s a slick site, but the rankings are blah…
How do they track and compare universities on “Teaching & Learning”? They use graduation rates. They also want to use employment rates, but are having a hard time getting this info.
Here’s a link for UC-Berkeley, you can see what categories they use for rankings:
Not a lot to show for 2 million euros, and the EU will be reluctant to continue funding this experiment (no matter how upset the French are about the “rankings”). They either need to commercialize it (like US News) or it’s nothing more than an interesting exercise.
What makes you think that these rankings just appeal to American kids? World rankings are generally preferred by international students who hold research in a higher regard to receiving the ‘best undergraduate education.’ Appealing to them should by important. They spend a large amount of money on U.S. universities in part due to their positions on world university rankings lists. Here’s an excerpt just on the Chinese students studying in the U.S.
I think there are also many more world university rankings than there are undergraduate focused ones. That even U.S. News now has one should be evidence of how popular those rankings are. Both types of rankings have different audiences that they appeal to. Neither type of ranking is inherently better or worse than the other.
This is a pretty common theme in most international rankings. Those rankings are based in a large part by research. And the U.S. funds its universities and their research at a much higher amount than any other country. That brings in smart researchers who will have the funding to do the research they want, and then go on win prestigious prizes. So it shouldn’t be surprising that they do well in international rankings.
That’s a good list too, but schools with strong business program do well in that ranking. Penn, USC, Berkeley, Michigan. Those are the one I know with good business program.
“The Times Higher Education World Reputation Rankings 2015 employ the world’s largest invitation-only academic opinion survey to provide the definitive list of the top 100 most powerful global university brands. A spin-off of the annual Times Higher Education World University Rankings, the reputation league table is based on nothing more than subjective judgement - but it is the considered expert judgement of senior, published academics - the people best placed to know the most about excellence in our universities.”
Post #56, why is NYU rank so high in the Times Higher Education? I thought from years of reading CC, it’s not considered a great school. Just checking to see if these rankings make sense. Not debating about NYU.
I do question these rankings partly because we have no way of verifying the quality of education from an American perspective. For example, it’s very easy to attend Cambridge and Oxford because each are falling apart physically and broke. If you have the cash, you are in. Second, many of the Chinese universities appear to be nothing more than communist think tanks with poor facilities. And in today’s world, how easy is it to publish in an academic journal? I’ve done it thrice. In short, American standards exceed that of most second and third world countries, including the EU and especially the far east, except perhaps Japan.
