<p>“This is most inept thinking. How can a “socially underdeveloped” student ever have opportunities to develop his social skill (i.e., mating skill if you will) if he’s placed in an adverse environment?”</p>
<p>Like I said, unless a person is in a college in the woods or the mountains, pretty much everyone is in a situation wherein he can socially develop without relying solely on the college he attends. </p>
<p>“ Talking about being impressed, I am not at all impressed with your absurdity and your “prestigious” school ….”</p>
<p>-There is nothing absurd about what I am saying. I also don’t see what my school or its level of prestige has to do with anything. 3 Northwesten attacks in one day, are you proud? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>If a student is "socially underdeveloped", he should look at other factors (e.g., male/female ratio, his/her "fit" and other factors) for his college decision, because "developing" his social skill is one of most integral parts of his "total college education".</p>
<p>1) this is true if a college is located in the woods.
2) this is also true even if a college is located in big cities, why? social interacting in also happening in your class room, group discussions, dorm rooms. what u fail to realize is that not every student goes out into city, exploring dark alleys, bar hopping every night!!</p>
<p>what attack? calling NW prestigious is an attack? i respect your different opinion, but i expect you not to distort mine....</p>
<p>“If a student is "socially underdeveloped", he should look at other factors (e.g., male/female ratio, his/her "fit" and other factors) for his college decision, because "developing" his social skill is one of most integral parts of his "total college education".</p>
<p>1) this is true if a college is located in the woods.
2) this is also true even if a college is located in big cities, why? social interacting in also happening in your class room, group discussions, dorm rooms.”</p>
<p>Again, if a person has to rely solely on his college atmosphere to find a mate, there is a big chance that he is in some way socially underdeveloped. It wouldn’t matter if the male:female ratio at the school is seemingly perfect to him; the very fact that he lacks social development would mean that he needs some kind of external help socializing. He could be in a college full of women (or men), but that in no way ensures that he will ever have any profound or meaningful interaction with them. </p>
<p>“what u fail to realize is that not every student goes out into city, exploring dark alleys, bar hopping every night!!”</p>
<p>Dark alleys and bars? You have a horribly misguided view of city life.</p>
<p>“What attack? calling NW prestigious is an attack? i respect your different opinion, but i expect you not to distort mine....”</p>
<p>There is no distortion. Calling Northwestern prestigious is not an attack, but calling it “prestigious” is. It would be like if I said you, manfredman, are “intelligent”.
:rolleyes:</p>
<p>In THIS corner, the heartbreaker from Evanston Ill-i-noise, via the city of brotherly love...KK!! And his pardner, whom even Anne Hache thinks about when she can't get to sleep... from the People's Republic of Berkeley...DEEEEEE-Rab!!</p>
<p>And in this corner...from sunny southern Cal-ee-FOR-ni-ya, the Hollywood Madman himself... MAN-fred-man!! And his pardner, who's lived all over the planet earth, but is proud to call the Motor City his home...the former Navy cryptologist with 4 degrees in 3 subjects from 2 countries...TOUR-guide!!</p>
<p>Look, it's nice to think that if there aren't enough people of the opposite sex on campus, you can just find your soulmate waiting tables at Denny's or sliding down a brass pole at the Pink Pussycat. It usually doesn't work that way. Is it wacky that with thousands of American colleges to choose from, a guy might want to choose a place where the deck is stacked in his favor, rather than having to wait in line to have a chat with a co-ed? A lot of guys come out of high school having spent more time cracking the books than banging the aquatic rodent. Manfred is right: undergrad is not just academic undergrad, it's often interpersonal undergrad too. And if college turns out to be a sausage fest, it's tough to make any progress on the interpersonal front.</p>
<p>I spent 10 years as a Navy officer, so I have a bit of experience in sausage fest scenarios. They are no way to develop one's social skills. Trust me on this one. Remember "Tailhook"? That wasn't an anomoly. That was the natural outcome of spending too much time at the Naval Academy and aboard ships.</p>
<p>kk, there's another sausage fest crisis that needs your insight in point #4 of post #9 in the thread "Rochester Institute of Technology--why is graduation rate so low?"</p>
<p>kk, I just bumped the Rochester Institute of Technology thread (it's on this same board). Go to post #9, item #4.</p>
<p>DRab: the degrees were in English, business, philosophy, philosophy, from Boston College, Central Michigan U., Chaminade U of Honolulu, and U of Toronto. The CMU master's degree was started in the Azores and finished in Hawaii while in the Navy (they flew the instructors to both sets of islands). The Chaminade degree was also started and finished while in the Navy. I was stationed in Hawaii for 3.5 years...it can VERY boring there after a while. So boring it can force a man to start studying philosophy.</p>
<p>I got out of the Navy and went straight to the U of Toronto. I think I was the only student there with Hawaii license plates on his car. People thought I was weird for wanting to study philosophy, and even weirder for leaving Hawaii and going to frigid Toronto to do it. I gotta admit, about the 500th time someone told me "You left Hawaii to come HERE!?" I started to question my own sanity. About an equal # of people asked how I got the car there from Hawaii. I'd tell them, "It wasn't easy--I went through 20 sets of windshield wipers just getting to LA."</p>
<p>DRab, one more anecdote: I notice you live in Berkeley. I was stationed on Treasure Island for a year and a half, and never once thought about taking a class at UCB or any of the other many fine colleges in that area. I transferred from there to the Azores, and as soon as I got off the plane, an ensign runs up to me and asks if I'll sign up for a marketing class...they had to have at least 10 students enrolled or CMU wouldn't fly the professor out to teach it. I had no interest in taking classes, and even less interest in business, but when in Rome... That was the start of my business career--not exactly the carefully planned and researched higher education decision that collegeconfidential fans usually make.</p>
<p>Hey guys, does anyone know of the quality and reputation of the undergraduate history departmant and Indiana University - Bloomington. The faculty in the university have impressive academic backgrounds, e.g. phd's at yale, berkeley etc. so i was assuming that our program was at least in the top 25. of course good academic background does not directly correlate to a good undergrad. history program. well thanks for your hopefully unbiased opinions/assessments :)</p>
<p>Beware of putting a lot of stock in undergrad department ratings, expecially in a field like history. You'll find that the faculties at the Big 10 universities are generally really really good across the board. People see that some of the Big 10 universities have relatively lackluster average SAT scores, and think the faculties must be similarly less-than excellent. But like you noticed with the IU faculty, they often get professors with top-notch credentials. </p>
<p>I put in some time as a grad student at both Indiana and Iowa, and was extremely impressed by the faculty at each place--they were brilliant and not even slightly arrogant. A place like Indiana-Bloomingotn, which doesn't have resource-draining departments like engineering, agriculture, and medicine, seems to be able to attract some really interesting professors in the humanities and social sciences.</p>
<p>I started at Toronto soon after Ayer died, and a bunch of professors who had studied under him at Oxford had a symposium in his honor. The highlight of the evening was a discussion of the number of women he had seduced. It was apparently in the hundreds. He was a one-man sausage fest.</p>