<p>Coureur, if this has rubbed you the wrong way, then thats ashame. NO its only about me in the sense that I have a problem with this and a number of others totally agree with me, even my own counselor thinks its crazy.I do think its obnoxious for her father to go on like that in front of a group of people who know full well the kind of studnet his d. is and its almost laughable the way hes parading this possibility around, pathetic is more the word. Every year kids like this get in over the really hard working ones that worked for four years giving up other things to excel in school and I don't think its fair, do you?</p>
<p>grotongirlie, I see what you mean. I have no problem with rich people in general, but those who flaunt their wealth so obnoxiously are just irksome. And if that girl gets in, it's not as if she made anyone proud since she obviously didn't do it on her own.</p>
<p>The Harvard recruited athlete from my school used to be a jackass, and one would think that he would have boasted about it to no end. But after he got in, he went in the opposite direction. I never heard a word about it from him. Maybe he was afraid I would go postal on him. Because I never had to deal with such people, I didn't understand why you were so mad in the first place.</p>
<p>Groton. Yes, it is frustrating when others seem to have handed to them what you work so hard to get.</p>
<p>Groton...One of the hardest things to learn as you become an adult is to let things go and carry on with grace. I am afraid your talking to your GC and a number of others about this girl is beginning to make you look immature and vindictive. I do not believe you want to be seen like this. Use your energy in a more positive way. People will respect you for it.</p>
<p>Sax I am a big girl and accept what you are saying, actually with my GC, she actually brought it up, to sort of "brace" me for the very real rejection I may get as she thought its unlikely we will both get in, and she acknowledged the cold hard reality of the fact that developement cases often take the front seat even to a very hard working and accomplished student, she was trying to help me understand that if that happens,it has nothing to do with what I have achieved and worked so hard for but its hard to get over still. As far as talking to others, its not really me doing it, its everyone its kind of become a joke amongst my class and even h.girl thinks its funny, kind a sad I guess when you think that she is actually able to laugh at her own situation, its like her dads mission in life to get here there, she is like his pawn or something to get HIM into the whole H. circle. Its just a foreign concept to me thats all. I know this is a big "growing pain" and I will learn and become stronger for it. I assure you I am not immature but really just speak my mind and this has really upset me a great deal. Because me and maybe one other kid are the only two viable candidates for H. besides our H.girl, to think we may lose the spot to someone who admits she doesnt' care if she goes or not but has the money to attract the school where I lose sleep just thinking about going really burns me up. Thats all. </p>
<p>Nutmeg, you are right if she does go, I think the whole "pride thinik" will be always laced with a certain sense of cheating knowing it wasn't really HER that got her in the door, good point.</p>
<p>I meant PRIDE THING, typing too fast:)</p>
<p>Why don't we wait and see who actually gets in before you get mad about it? Who knows. Stranger things have happened.</p>
<p>Wow, who cares?</p>
<p>OP, you just need to move on with your life. I can't believe this thread contains 12 pages of your speculation concerning someone who might get in as a developmental candidate.</p>
<p>If her parents have donated their hard earned money to Harvard, who are you to judge and create this whole thread demeaning not only the daughter, but the entire family? It's one thing to get upset about something, its another to throw a fit. I think many posters are giving you sound advice about moving on and just waiting to see how the dice fall (I mean you don't have a bad fall-back option either). Fretting about it now is just unhealthy and illogical.</p>
<p>Just take a few deep breaths and move on.</p>
<p>Harvard does not care how many applicants it takes from one school. That's a fact. If they think you should be there, you will get in. If not, you won't. It has nothing to do with anyone else, despite the widespread misconception that only one person will get in from a given school.</p>
<p>Grotongirlie, You got into Yale and I am positive that there were probably outstanding, amazing and compelling candidates who got deferred to Yale but a development admit with lower scores and grades and no extra currciulars got in because their famillies made an enormous financial commitment to Yale. If you were one of those deferred to Yale and you saw someone like that get in, then I can see your frustation - because it does happen and personally I have seen it happen. However, you were very fortunate. You were accepted to Yale early. The fact that this development admit might get into Harvard a school that you only later realized was your first choice - and that you might is irrelevant. First of all, you have no idea if you will be accepted or not irregardless of whether there are development admits who are not as competitive who will be accepted. Second of all, just because Yale accepted you early does not mean that you will be accepted to Harvard. Perhaps you will be, but often there is no rhyme or reason as to why one school will take one and another wont and vice versa. You should be excited that you were accepted to one of the best schools in the country. It is the student who was spectacular in every way who was deferred to Yale only to see a classmate development admit who was not very competitive be accepted that could harbor some frustration because it happened to them. Nothing happened to you. It is a waste of time to speculate.
At some point where we all go to college is in large part due to destiny. All we can do is put in hard work, achieve academically, explore, develop and nuture our passions, and put together the best application we can. After that it is out of our hands. The rest is destiny. Hopefully we will all have a few choices.</p>
<p>Collegebound, I totally agree for the most part. There are some things, in fact most things ARE out of our control and are our destiny and I do believe that, I have made it perfectly clear in my previous posts that I am very lucky indeed to be in at Y. and have not at all said becasue I got in there I am automatically going to get into H. I was just voicing a gripe and to me its a real legit one, I have had several agree with me here and have gotten 9 pms telling me all about their similiar personal experiences and I know I am not alone. You see if this person were even close to what H. is looking for I could see it, but this girl herself is practically laughing at the system and almost trivializing it...do you know how irritating that is to someone like myself who considers herself a serious student who spends several hours a day on my worik? Maybe if they weren't so flippant about it, it wouldn't infuriate me so.</p>
<p>Windslicer, if you dont' care you don't have to waste your precious time commenting. Obviously others felt it was worth THEIR time whether or not they agreed with me and is a worthy conversation topic, certainly not one going away anytime soon! I will move on when I am ready and not a second sooner and I don't see that happening until there is some "closure" here, hence when the decisions are made. I will at that time move on and accept however hard it may be that what is meant to be will be. I know my destiny is somewhere and that I really have no real control over it. I have not "demeaned" the family as much as I have stated the facts and yes the facts speak for themselves, its pretty shocking and they to me have demaned the entire process, they have made it dirty and subjective, they have taken away the "level playing field" where all stellar students stand on fair ground and changed the playing field considerably. Do I think its IN ANY WAY FAIR? NO NO NO I DO NOT! IF she was a good student then I wouldn't say a word BUT considering this is someone who has c's no aps or ib classes, I think its practically a mockery of the system that shes been considered seriously. If you don't like the thread, don't visit, its very simple.</p>
<p>Groton - </p>
<p>You've already achieved amazing success by getting into Yale - a success that the vast majority of college applicants can only dream about. Why is it not enough for you that you have succeeded? Why must this girl you are obsessed with also fail in order for you to be satisfied? Why not just take your success and forget about this girl and be happy? It's hard enough listen to the whining of a sore loser, but sore winners are even harder to take.</p>
<p>Coureur, you have it all wrong. I am sick and tired of saying yes i am lucky. I know I am, enough already though. Stop painting me to be a sore loser, IF and only IF this girl gets in over me, my gripe is about the system. Why am I so upset becasue i really want to go there? My mistake was mentioning I got into Yale, had I not trust me you and others would be much more sympathetic. GET OVER THAT I GOT INTO YALE, YOU CAN'T SEE BEYOND IT. I have a dream school, just like anyone else and know what I have worked hard to acheive is the caliber necessary to go there, for someone to POTENTIALLY come in and take that away from me or any other well deserving student infuriates me. If you dont' get that, you are hopeless and not worth having a conversation with. Please don't address by again unless you have something nice to say, all this hating is really bad for your health.</p>
<p>evil asian, you sound like a nice person.......NOT! Your name couldn't be more appropriate, I really like someone who can see and deal with his shortcomings. If you dont' have anything nice to say, don't bother.</p>
<p>groton, you obviously misunderstood the sound advice people gave you. So I'm going to keep it short and sweet:</p>
<p>You are wasting your time on this thread.</p>
<p>Can we say irony?</p>
<p>bigbrother no i am not ,it helps me to "release" all my annoyance/anger. Thankfully there are about 10 people who have really been supportive and understand exactly how I feel and to you reading this, thanks! I appreciate your support, because I KNOW anyone else in this exact situation WHO COULD GET OVER MY GETTING INTO YALE would feel the same way....Odyssesy you seem to not be able to stay away. If you are so perturbed then why come back, you are so profond in those one liners! REALLY DEEP.</p>
<p>Well, despite your repeated requests for others not to judge you or a book by its cover because no one here really knows you, that is exactly what you are asking everyone here to do about your "Harvard Girl", is it not? </p>
<p>Except that if not enough is known about you (although you've made 87 posts) to make a judgement, how could anyone possibly make a judgement about "HarvardGirl"? Nothing at all is known about her at all beyond what you have posted - such as:</p>
<p>"This is a girl who got 1800 on her SAT'S and at best is a b+/a- student, nothing by any stretch but that she is very rich." </p>
<p>"is it really fair for someone like my classmate who is an average B student, very mediocre SAT scores"</p>
<p>""harvard girl" as shes now become known has a 2.9 GPA, 1800 SAT, almost no ec's, and a pretty mediocre overall record"</p>
<p>"this is someone who has c's no aps or ib classes"</p>
<p>You can't even keep your story about her grades straight. Why should one think you'd be any more accurate about of what talents she may have or what her SAT's or for that matter SAT II's or ACT's were?</p>
<p>As for your credibility in regards to your own academic record, those 5's on 12 AP's by the end of 11th grade really appear to be too good to be true. What's that work out to? 2 as a freshman and 5 each of the next 2 years or 6 each as a soph and junior.<br>
You wouldn't mind sharing the specifics on all that, would you?</p>
<p>And while you are at it, what was left for you to be take this year? :)
5 or 6 more? So that brings the total up to 18 AP's at high school graduation? That would be impressive indeed, even by the standards of the most boa****l in CC. </p>
<p>But if that plus 2300 boards, plus unnamed super ec's plus an ivy league parent really was your record, its kind of hard to square that with the OP here so bent out of shape about this other girl with indeterminate stats who "might" get into Harvard.</p>
<p>As I have told you privately after you PM'd me, I doubt you actually exist. It seems much more likely that rather you've adopted this online personna so that you can argue with people - as you have been doing on any number of threads.</p>
<p>Wow. Someone has done his/her homework ^. That was probably one the best researched responses I've read so far. Now for my pure opinions =P:</p>
<p>Although, I wouldn't say groton is fake, I will say what I feel are the two best courses to take if I were in her position: </p>
<p>1) Follow the advice already given above---just let it go and wait for the actual result</p>
<p>2) Do something to change the system and not just bash it. If you, groton, truly feel so strongly about this problem (btw, I do support your POV, just not the way you've handled it), you could start an initiative to improve the system. I say improve hesitantly because I am sure many would argue for the current system. However, this seems like the most positive endeavour one can take to remedy the anger and possibly the situation...</p>
<p>Best of luck Groton. Eat some food, and go for a jog; that always makes me feel better. =)</p>
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<blockquote> <p>Stop painting me to be a sore loser....<<</p> </blockquote>
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<p>I have not painted you as a sore loser. I have painted you as a sore winner. You have already won BIG, but you are endlessly complaining because there is a chance you might not win even bigger. It's not a pretty picture.</p>
<p>Dongminate, thanks you for sound advice, worth taking for sure. Despite how it may come across I am indeed focusing on many more important things...such as studying and trying to make the second half of my senior year as fun as possible. I know that whatever will happen will happen and I have no control over it. Changing the problem? I wish it were that easy! I have spoken to my advisor about it who couldn't agree with me more but aside from sending a bunch of anonymous letters to each of the admissions office just to vent and make myself feel better I think its a pretty hopeless endeavor. Any suggestions.....I am open to them:)</p>
<p>ODYSSEY TIGER- I am blown away you do say more than those profound one sentence blurbs you were becoming famous for? My take on you? You are here to argue, come across like the "almighty one" who has all the answers, you couldnt' be more wrong which makes it quite funny. For someone so uninterested in this thread, you sure have a lot to say and plenty of time to keep coming back. Do i care what you think of me? NOT! Do i have to post my stats here NO. Will I? Maybe when I have more time. Do I owe you any explanation at all? Of course not. Is everything I said true? You better believe it, I suspect about this time there might be steam blowing out of your ears. Is "HARVARD GIRL" who I said she is? YEP! Nothing I said conflicted, she is a B student with a C or two as she told me, plus as I said all along she got around an 1800 on her SAT. I frankly don't give a **** what you think. I know the record I have worked hard for, am darn proud of it. If I list everything here I feel like I am opening myself up for attacks again, someone meaning probably you will find something to try to bash me about and I don't think I feel like opening myself up to haters. </p>
<p>Coureru so you are saying I got something good and just shut up and stay with that and forget that I saw something which was a better fit for me and I want that but I am not entitled to have it? Its not about the "prize" as you like to refer to it, its about where i am going to spend the next 4 years of my life and wanting to be in the place where I feel most comfortable. Of course I am not giving up, what you are saying is nuts. IF I NEVER SAID I GOT INTO YALE YOU WOULD'T HAVE A GRIPE, SO GET OVER IT.</p>