<p>if you really want an IB internship you wont get it through campus, at least not from UCLA at a top bank. Use bruinview to find alum working in such industries, call them up/email them, ask if you can pick their mind for a few minutes at some point. If they say yes call them at agreed upon time w/ questions/comments w/e, more likely then not they will forward your resume. UCLA isn't a good enough school to get you an on campus interview at a top bank in nyc unless you have tons of previous experience. Networking is the way to go...</p>
<p>thanks for the advice. i will definitely look into that, but were your interviews on campus? i have some interviews next week but for the la and sf offices.</p>
<p>yes, networking sounds more fun too.</p>
<p>One of my interviews was over the phone, as it was for a MM IB in Boston. The other was at the bank itself (LA).</p>
<p>impressive.</p>
<p>dude, pledging to frats or sororities is stupid. Pledging is for people that can't find a place within the social environment, and feel compelled to "fit in" by buying their way into a social group. I find people in the Greek life very unbalanced in terms of future goals. There are other ways to succeed and much more beneficial ways to focus on your future goals. That's just my 0.02.</p>
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dude, pledging to frats or sororities is stupid. Pledging is for people that can't find a place within the social environment, and feel compelled to "fit in" by buying their way into a social group. I find people in the Greek life very unbalanced in terms of future goals. There are other ways to succeed and much more beneficial ways to focus on your future goals. That's just my 0.02.
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<p>Typical argument. Unfortunately for you it has been disproven over and over as the majority of fortune 500 CEO's were greek, the majority of Presidents were greek, and here at UCLA the gpa of the greek community > rest of school. Greek life attracts a certain type of person and this type of person is usually very social, determined, and strong minded....traits that tend to succeed in the outside world.</p>
<p>dude, if you look at the successes as a percentage of the whole greek population, you will notice the fallacy in your argument. If you want to use logical consistency in your argument, why don't we look at all the people who succeeded that did not pledge greek! I guarantee you that number far outweighs the successes of the greek population. Furthermore, why don't you statistically analyze the number of successful greek people as a PERCENTAGE of the greek population. Secondly, many of those fortune 500 ceos attended ivy league colleges, not state funded universities. Attending ivy leagues=family money=better colleges=connections=more privilege.</p>
<p>second of all, the fact that greek gpa is larger than the rest of the school is probably not statistically significant. Any time that you seclude a smaller population of people from a larger population, such as the student body, there is bound to be a difference. Give me the exact degree that the gpa is higher, so that I can prove that this figure is not statistically significant to be considered valid argument. I can scientifically disprove your argument.</p>
<p>that's just your own opinion. I dont think it's fair for you to judge all people in fraternities because not everyone is the same. Your 2 cents is a stupid generalization and assumption.</p>
<p>Someone is bitter?</p>
<p>What are the pros and cons of going greek? Is it still posisble to study abroad if you go greek?</p>
<p>alexinorbit,</p>
<p>I was going to go look for statistics on the matter of greek life vs. non-greek life, but then I realized the only person who really cares about that is you. I mean, are you seriously going to invoke some statistics equation just to prove that the difference in GPA between greek and non-greek people is not significant? You have nothing better to do? I'm almost willing to find the statistic just so I can watch you do this.</p>
<p>Unless you've actually pledged a fraternity or sorority and subsequently joined, you're not entitled to have an opinion on what it entails -- especially such a broad, generalized one.</p>
<p>I think it's pretty reasonable to judge all greeks to be drunken idiots... mostly because they are.</p>
<p>Actually most F500 CEO's did not go to Top 25 private schools. You can say all you want but the fact is that people who are in the greek system, especially at good schools like UCLA, tend to succeed. And though I might get a little tipsy every now and then, I hardly consider myself to be an idiot and everything i've done/accomplished both in and outside of school would support this.</p>
<p>then i should change my statement to... I think "most" greeks are drunken idiots.</p>
<p>So anyway, are you going to pledge DSP, ijreinsn? Perhaps you've re-aligned your motives or changed your outlook?</p>
<p>Sure thing, while we're at it lets just also include that jews are money hungry, blacks are lazy criminals, and all the asians I see are south campus majors (who get A's).</p>
<p>^so true. thanks for enlightening me.</p>
<p>Hey DSP-wannabes, you guys should join the list-serv for UBS. Just sayin':
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<p>UBS Career Development Workshop:</p>
<p>The Undergraduate Business Society will be presenting the Career Development Workshop, a three-day series of events geared towards 1st and 2nd year students. These events will contain information that will help you decide what career path you might want to embark on, how to prepare now for future success, what resources are available to you, and how to polish your resume and interview skills. Each event is specifically geared toward students who wish to begin their career development, regardless of industry. The workshop will feature speakers with extensive knowledge on various industries (Citigroup Smith Barney, Deutsche Bank, California State Senate, and more).</p>
<p>Workshop 1: Getting Started (January 16th, 7-9 pm: Salon 5 in Tom Bradley Hall )</p>
<p>This workshop will introduce different resources that UCLA offers to underclassmen who wish to pursue their careers, including the UCLA Career Center, Bruinview, as well as student organizations that can help students achieve their future goals.</p>
<p>Workshop 2: Industry Night (January 30th, 7-9 pm: Covel North Ridge)</p>
<p>The second workshop will feature a speaking panel of students from various industries (ranging from business to government to nonprofit organizations) who will discuss their respective fields, and provide insight into finding internships and time management, as well as providing thoughts on the work experience itself.</p>
<p>Workshop 3: Career Building (February 13th, 7-9 pm: Covel Northridge)</p>
<p>The third and final workshop will be centered around what students should be doing now to ensure success in their future careers. This workshop will include how to structure a good resume, how to handle behavioral interviews, and what firms look for from first- and second-years pursuing an internship.</p>
<p>Lehman Brothers at UCLA</p>
<p>UCLA Juniors and Sophomores are cordially invited to attend our </p>
<p>"Role of the Analyst" Presentation</p>
<p>Monday, January 14th, 6:00PM, Bradley International Center</p>
<p>Please join us to meet UCLA alumni and learn about our</p>
<p>Investment Banking</p>
<p>Summer Analyst Program</p>
<p>Business casual attire
Refreshments served</p>
<p>For more information about the opportunities we offer, visit Lehman</a> Brothers. </p>
<p>Please forward this email to other UCLA students who may be interested in learning more about our</p>
<p>Investment Banking Summer Analyst Program. </p>
<pre><code> We look forward to seeing you there!
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<p>I'm still on their list-serv even though I don't really care about anything business related or career stuff @tm. Good luck, baby Bruins! :)</p>
<p>here's the truth on greeks from a neutral obsever: some are outgoing, very active smart leader types. others are drunken losers. most are in between. i've met all types. no greek is the same.</p>