@mom23travelers I totally agree with everything you said. One of my kids was also instate full pay. Not a dime of aid from UVa (unless you count unsubsidized Staffords!) but I never begrudged kids that were getting aid, whether instate or out of state. We still felt our son was getting a great education, at a very good price.
“you still want to know why kids leave Jersey?” @kac425 Stevens is private and will have private school type tuition. That is no surprise. . If a New Jersey kid really wants to go to a private school, they can go anywhere . That is different than a New Jersey kid not going to one of their instate options. Plenty still do but lots seem to prefer other OOS options.
One of my kids applied to Rutgers for engineering ( we are out of state). I think it has a much better reputation outside of NJ and with employers than inside. Crazy.
But lets remember that CC is not representative of most college applicants. Rutgers is huge because many kids from Jersey go there and love it. It is not easy to get into these days, especially for certain programs. Many kids turn to OOS publics or privates because they do not get accepted at Rutgers. Lots of kids also go to other in-state schools and are happy there as well.
@sevmom…i’m well aware of what it is–it was in response to a prior post.
will it help if i do rutgers-main instead?
Total Cost (including on campus housing) $31,284
Your Estimated Net Price $31,284
note how both prices are EXACTLY the same. why? because there isnt a boatload of merit to be had at rutgers, unless you are an tip-top performer. oh and yes, thats instate.
that is a significant chunk of change in comparison to other places, other schools with better merit, other places with lower COA, etc.
There’s a pretty yucky class undertone to the article, now that I look at it again. The author doesn’t seem to be worried that Rutgers is intellectually inadequate. She seems worried that the students are tacky.
@kac425 I agree that is a significant chunk of change. Unfortunately, tuition keeps going up in many states. It is good that there are other options out there if a family doesn’t feel the EFC is workable-exploring other schools, looking for merit, starting at community college , etc.
I just looked at the article again too. I feel sad for the son-they let him fly out to admitted students day, put a sticker on the car, get all excited about Wisconsin- only to pull it out from under him. Yes, I understand they did not have the financial aid package yet but they did have access to the info on the OOS costs and certainly could have done the net price calculator to get an idea of whether or not the school would be affordable.
She wonders how her family was supposed to “magically” come up with the OOS cost. There is no magic involved, just looking at the numbers and staying within your means. She somehow thought somebody else should help finance her luxury purchase . If your EFC says you can pay, then you are expected to pay. If you don’t like the numbers or feel you can’t afford your EFC, then the work begins on finding a more affordable option.
University of Michigan and University of Virginia have excellent need-based financial aid programs for OOS students UVA has for many years proudly proclaimed that it grants FA regardless of residency and Michigan has made raising money for OOS student a major priority. I’ve worked with middle class kids who had their full need met, with very reasonable debt levels.
Go ahead and take your dumps on NJ. We are used to it. We know all the jokes, “what exit” and all that. We have seen “The Sopranos”. We hate that “jersey shore” show way more than you do. But go ahead, have your fun.
And yeah Stevens is a great school, very academically challenging and highly regarded. And we have that other college I can’t think of at the moment that’s pretty well regarded also, it’s called Princeville or something like that. They don’t let me near the place.
And now hear this in my best Joe Pesci voice: First, take a big bite of this Taylor Ham, egg and cheese sandwich so’s you stop talking. Then, get back in your frickin’ Camry and drive straight back to Pennsytucky and don’t come back.
I hope you all know I am kidding, but the shots at Jersey ain’t cool, ain’t hip, ain’t smart, and make you sound ignorant.
It is true that Rutgers (New Brunswick) has 28% of students receiving Pell grants, while Wisconsin (Madison) has only 14% of students receiving Pell grants.
For other schools mentioned here, Michigan (Ann Arbor) is at 14%, Virginia is at 13%, and North Carolina (Chapel Hill) is at 22%.
Virginia was even well below 13 % at one point . Access UVa has brought in a somewhat more diverse student body from a socioeconomic standpoint, but the numbers of Pell Grant recipients is still fairly low in the scheme of things.
