To rejectees:

<p>hey chris, just wondering, when you called columbia what exactly did you ask of the admissions counselor? i want to call too, but i dont want to just be like " ummm why did you defer me?". also how did you get in touch with your geographical counselor specifcally??
thanks !</p>

<p>-Dave</p>

<p>Talk to your counselor. I talked to my counselor and he offered to call them up to see what was why they rejected me / see what I should fix for future applications.</p>

<p>i talked to my counselor and he said he would call, but i think it would be beneficial to call myself. i'd like to represent myself well to the admissions people.</p>

<p>Welsh, I think it's better to do it in person.. you want to hear those answers yourself and you want to direct the conversation in the way that you want it.</p>

<p>I have detailed info about the phone conversation. Just IM me and I'll be glad to pass it to you.</p>

<p>Answer to davidpien: I was in contact with that geographical reader before (when I was applying etc)... I got her contact from Jessica the Director of Undergrad Admissions because I met her when she came to Singapore in June.
And no I didn't ask straight out HI Why was I rejected?
It was a very long conversation and she did most of the talking. However, I worked it subtly... And got all the answers I wanted.</p>

<p>aw....silver, you are truly the nicest person i've ever met ^^ add me to your AIM! jskim3487....and if you use, MSN, then add me, too. <a href="mailto:jskim3487@hotmail.com">jskim3487@hotmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>Hey guys, I don't think I'll be visiting this board anymore. So cya later everyone.</p>

<p>omg dude.. why not?
why are u giving up on columbia ur not even rejed!!</p>

<p>and i couldn't send u the file.. whats ur email?</p>

<p><a href="mailto:celebrian23@yahoo.com">celebrian23@yahoo.com</a></p>

<p>It's not that, I just don't feel like a part of this board like I thought I was...I don't really belong anywhere. I haven't taken my SAT/ACT yet, I'm not looking for college admissions advice, I have no essays to write, I didn't apply anywhere so all the specific college threads are out, I pretty much know where I'm applying, I'll pretty much stick to high school life and the cafe. I really won't be posting much after tonight</p>

<p>WOW what a revelation...
I'm going to miss bumping into you everywhere celebrian.
Keep in touch though right? Maybe I may be some help when you're ACTUALLY in the process of applying to uni etc..</p>

<p>You really need to take those SATs etc...</p>

<p>What were you doing on all of these boards anyway? Getting yourself prepared? Revved up?</p>

<p>Well do keep in touch dear.. and I will send you that word file with the phone convo ...</p>

<p>Cheers!</p>

<p>I have to wait for the new SAT first of all. Secondly, I read 5 times as much as I post. I am a guru on the admissions process, well not quite, but pretty close. Maybe when I started posting a year ago, I didn't need to belong somewhere, but now I do. I see how everyone loves you, and loves some "star" on the other ivy boards, and it's kind of depressing, like nobody else's bad news for admissions matters. On the Princeton board there is a specific thread to cheer up one person for her deferral. And I think it's sad that one person gets all the focus, while people in the same situation are brushed over. I will keep in touch with you though. :p</p>

<p>celebrian, did you get the email alright..?
"I see how everyone loves you, and loves some "star" on the other ivy boards, and it's kind of depressing, like nobody else's bad news for admissions matters."... I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say by this.. ...? hmm...what are you suggesting..</p>

<p>I don't know...I'm just ranbling on. yes, and thank you. Maybe I'm just on the verge of a mental breakdown. :(</p>

<p>I don't see why you have any reason to have a mental breakdown..
You're not even applying to college yet...
..You've just started your junior year.. what is there to stress over?
Just ...Enjoy your life hun. Next year you are FORCED to do all of this uni crap.. whether you like it or NOT. So enjoy it while you can. Go out and have fun! I think CC may be doing more harm than good for you right now..</p>

<p>And I don't see how it's bad to be loved..?!
.....</p>

<p>Meh, not college. Other stuff. That I won't discuss here. I might return in a week, in a month, in a year, in a decade. I don't know. This will be my final post for a while. Adieu Chris.</p>

<p>I contacted my admissions counselor, asking for advice on what I could do to get accepted now that I'm deferred, and she flat out told me what the admissions comittee was concerned with in my application. She encouraged me to follow up with a letter/essay, as she claimed that the adcom was "still interested" in me, and wanted to know just a little bit more.</p>

<p>I'm so frustrated.
Apparently my admissions officer had a really long conversation with my college counselor about my app. Apparently I had good scores, good grades, good teacher recs, and I'm a legacy too. She had nothing bad to say about me. This is why I still can't figure out why I didn't get in. I've decided its probably because I haven't cured cancer, I'm not from Zimbawe and I'm not the president of Burundi. Or maybe because I didn't write a novel at age 7. Whatever the case, Its made me so worrysome about the rest of my apps, and has shot my confidence.
Sigh.
But in other news... did you know what Jessica's last name means in Italian?
Dirty sailor.
Just thought I'd share.</p>

<p>Schwaab05, did you email her or call her on the telephone? Thanx.</p>

<p>I called her on the telephone. She had given me her number when she came to my school to visit, and it was the first time I had spoken to her since that visit. I guess maybe if I had spoken with her while my application was still under consideration for ED, I might have been accepted. But I'm not gonna play the if game...</p>

<p>When I first called her, she was on her way out and told me I could call her tomorrow. After introducing myself, she said to me, "Oh, you must be calling about our deferral". I can't tell if that's a good or a bad thing. I'm guessing it's more of the former, since it means that I'm still on her radar somewhat.</p>

<p>When I called her the next day, she immediately started telling me about the concerns that the adcom had by going over the notes she had taken. I'm pretty sure that she was also viewing my application at the same time, since I asked her if something had been received and she looked it up immediately.</p>

<p>were you CC or SEAS?</p>

<p>I applied to CC.</p>