<p>Hahaha typical trash from ultra-leftist zealots. You're probably one of those loudmouth gunner idiots in govt classes that refutes professors' statements with nonsensical crap you read on a liberal blog. And for your information, I'm now a Columbia student and unless you count the crazy homeless guy spouting "Bu$h kills babies" at the 116th St. campus entrance as student activism, then you are mistaken about the political climate and the "activism" of the general student population. Don't talk about what you don't know.</p>
<p>You're right, I'm not an activist. I focused my efforts on science and research instead of politics and marching around in front of WSH with picket signs in the middle of February. I guess that makes me a conservative racist that goes to bed listening to Jerry Falwell sing-a-longs!</p>
<p>Transfer out of Cornell. The school could use a few less douches.</p>
<p>Ultra-liberals are useless in this world just like ultraconservatives, religious zealots, and radical feminist. A lot of whining but little actual work being accomplished. Stop being so radical and perhaps then people will stop and listen and change will occur.</p>
<p>You have no point. You say this to whomever you don't agree with. A person that says something which you don't agree with is not proving anything, and shows nothing. Tell me, are you one of those crazy feminists that burn bras because it symbolizes the imprisionment of the female body and purposefully grow out their armpit and leg hairs simply because they don't want to submit to male lust and domination?</p>
<p>Well, one thing's for sure; if this thread is any example of how Cornellians talk to one another, perhaps going someplace where there is less fragmentation is the best idea.</p>
<p>"Hahaha typical trash from ultra-leftist zealots. You're probably one of those loudmouth gunner idiots in govt classes that refutes professors' statements with nonsensical crap you read on a liberal blog. And for your information, I'm now a Columbia student and unless you count the crazy homeless guy spouting "Bu$h kills babies" at the 116th St. campus entrance as student activism, then you are mistaken about the political climate and the "activism" of the general student population. Don't talk about what you don't know.</p>
<p>You're right, I'm not an activist. I focused my efforts on science and research instead of politics and marching around in front of WSH with picket signs in the middle of February. I guess that makes me a conservative racist that goes to bed listening to Jerry Falwell sing-a-longs!</p>
<p>Transfer out of Cornell. The school could use a few less douches."</p>
<p>Double agree. Lol. This is entertaining. I knew a girl, (she was fairly smart too) who refused to apply to American Universities because Bush got reelected. She would put anyone down who mildly disagreed with her extreme left views. Her dream job was to work for the ACLU, etc.</p>
<p>I think she is working at Wal-Mart. Kinda had a break down from being so politically intense all the time (this is no joke). Needless to say, she never made it to the border. (not that the Canadians would have loved to have someone obssesively liberal there either.)</p>
<p>It's funny that you think Cornell is waspy and negligent regarding the worlds happenings. I find it quite the opposite; students are very active and very liberal. Perhaps too liberal. I don't know what kind of background you come from, but there is far more diversity, intelligence, and insight on this campus than I ever saw back home. </p>
<p>If you don't like Cornell, then transfer to one of those hippie schools you mentioned earlier where you can hug trees and discues politics until your heart is content.</p>
<p>Heh, wasps. There are far more jews and minorities here than wasps.</p>
<p>Antaeus, you are likely to be disapointed, not matter where you go to college. Is Cornell the most socially conscious university in the US? Probably not. But it is one of the more socially aware campuses out there. It is not Cornell that needs change...it is your expectations. you are an idealist. I hope you never change (idealism is a great quality), but chances are, for the sake of self-preservation and sanity, I think you will unfortunately have to reajust your expectations.</p>
<p>The problem with extreme liberals is that they are trying SO hard to be different, that they end up being exactly the same. I can already tell that you are the type of student that goes around the school and tries to convert everyone to think like you...but isn't that what those conservatives do?</p>
<p>"I can already tell that you are the type of student that goes around the school and tries to convert everyone to think like you...but isn't that what those conservatives do?"</p>
<p>Um, yeah. So, what are you saying, it's okay to hold different ideas so long as you keep them to yourself?</p>
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<p>There's a difference between debate & discussion and caustic annoying rhetoric.</p>
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It's funny that you think Cornell is waspy and negligent regarding the worlds happenings. I find it quite the opposite; students are very active and very liberal. Perhaps too liberal. I don't know what kind of background you come from, but there is far more diversity, intelligence, and insight on this campus than I ever saw back home.</p>
<p>If you don't like Cornell, then transfer to one of those hippie schools you mentioned earlier where you can hug trees and discues politics until your heart is content.</p>
<p>Heh, wasps. There are far more jews and minorities here than wasps.
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<p>This is very true. The comment from the OP that The Sun (our daily student paper) is conservative blew my mind. The paper has no political leanings and it has as many liberal op-ed pieces as there are conservative ones. It serves as a good forum for discussion.</p>
<p>Also an FYI for non-students, the Cornell Review and Cornell American are extremist right-wing papers put out by the Republican Party. Since they are funded by the National party, they have the funds to distribute their papers all over campus. Not that it matters because no one reads them anyway.</p>
<p>I'm bit of a socialist myself (strange for a South Korean, I'm told), and this isn't putting me off applying to Cornell at all. OK, there may not be many people like me, but hey so what. You don't necessarily have to be with people who think like you do. </p>
<p>Maybe I'm used to this kind of thing because I live in Korea. It doesn't happen at my school but elsewhere you can tell people that you've a leftist leaning and the first thing they do is accuse you of being a commie.</p>
<p>Although Cornell's no Berkeley, the student body as well as the faculty is fairly liberal. The Cornell American and Review are trash I would never read but there are equally extremist publications put out by the left so pointing out how silly some of the articles from the American are really doesn't prove anything. </p>
<p>To the OP: It's not that Cornell isn't socially conscious enough for you. It's that it's not liberal enough. The truly politically active person would strive to effect change in a hostile atmosphere, not run with their tail between their legs to some place where everyone already holds the same opinions.</p>
<p>people care about the world. yes, it always seems like cornell is like a bubble, and a lot of people don't know anything that happens outside of cornell, but having 20K student body, it has have a couple of handfuls if not more people who are conscious of what is happening outside the world. The fact that Cornell so readily and quickly rallied around Hurricane Katrina relief shows that there are plenty on campus who are aware and willing to DO SOMETHING rather than idly sit around and complain that we aren't doing anything. the fact that you could generalize 20K of people from all 50 states, and 120+ countries, races/ethnicities, backgrounds, etc. is pretty...horrible, imho. </p>
<p>I think you are entitled to your own opinion, but don't expect others, especially those that you generalize negatively, to accept it quietly. If someone thinks this thread shows cornell's true nature against their own dissenter, well, when someone "disses" Cornell, even if it is a Cornellian, there will always be other's who will defend the institution they love so much.</p>
<p>I've read the OP three times now, and so far no one disagrees with his basic premise which is that liberal Democrats, the kind who say, they support the war in Iraq and who, like their standard bearer in 2004 would have supported it EVEN KNOWING WHAT THEY KNOW NOW, dominate the political scene at Cornell. True, or untrue?</p>
<p>"I'm bit of a socialist myself (strange for a South Korean, I'm told), and this isn't putting me off applying to Cornell at all. OK, there may not be many people like me, but hey so what. You don't necessarily have to be with people who think like you do. </p>
<p>Maybe I'm used to this kind of thing because I live in Korea. It doesn't happen at my school but elsewhere you can tell people that you've a leftist leaning and the first thing they do is accuse you of being a commie."</p>
<p>That is indeed strange for a South Korean. For a while there, I thought I was the only Korean socialist. : )</p>
<p>I am quite used to such political apathy; I went to a poor innercity school in the South. However, I figure that college is the time to try avoiding such apathy.</p>
<p>If you end up coming to Cornell, please consider joining the International Socialist Organization. We are really one of the few dedicated activist groups on campus. If I'm still here, I can show you the ropes. : )</p>