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<p>Pardon me if I am incorrect, but don't you get a full ride to any college in Sweden due to the Bologna process? I was thinking about attending college at Uppsala University, and found out that your government pays for 100% of everything. I had been studying Swedish, but eventually decided that my language skills were not up to par to live and study there. </p>

<p>If I were you, I would complete my undergrad and medical school studies in Sweden, and then come over here and do your residency and take the USMLE. That would be your best bet.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

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<p>Furstan88</p>

<p>You need to go to the International forum and read the sticky threads there so you have a better understanding of the US college and university system. To find the International forum, click on "Discussion Home" in the upper left of this screen, and then scroll down.</p>

<p>Watch for anything posted by B@r!um. She knows her stuff about student visas and the like.</p>

<p>In order to study in the USA you will need an F-1. You can only get one of those AFTER you are admitted to a program here. Since you are beginning to look at colleges/universities right now, you may not have time to apply, be accepted, get the paperwork from them, and get your visa before classes start in September. Usually, potential international students are advised to begin the college application process a minimum of ONE YEAR before they hope to actually begin classes.</p>

<p>I do not know if you need a green card to study medicine in the US. But, I must ask why on earth you want to come here to do that. You are better off completing your medical degree in your home country and then taking the foreign medical boards in the US if you want to pursue a medical residency here. To get a better understanding of the medical school application process, visit the Medical school forum. It is a couple of lines further down the page from the International forum.</p>

<p>Information on higher education in the US is available at:</p>

<p>Undergraduate</a> Study – EducationUSA</p>

<p>Do yourself a favor and read all of this NOW.</p>

<p>When you have read it, if you are still determined to come to the US this fall to study, look for colleges and universities that still have space at:</p>

<p>NACAC</a> 2008 Space Availability Survey Results</p>

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<p>Thanks for answer. I have investigated further and am still determined to go there. The thing is, I don't want to take the easiest way. I want to get away to a new mentality and culture, and I want to do something that isn't easy. The time at university here has been no challenge at all, despite reading 2 x full-time.</p>

<p>I also don't want to become a doctor for the money, so as long as I can manage to pay back and still have a reasonable amount for living left, I don't care if I will be $200.000 in dept.</p>

<p>I have chosen about 20 colleges (not CCs) that I will contact tomorrow to see if I can make a transfer.</p>

<p>The biggest problem will be my green card, I guess I will just have to pray for winning the dv-lottery (last year had a over-all 0.78% chance of winning).</p>

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<p>One more possibility would be for you to complete a full undergraduate degree in your home country, and then come to the USA for a "post-baccalaureate pre-med" program. This is a sequence of coursework that can be completed in one or two years and covers the basic pre-med subjects. Several colleges and universities offer these programs including Bryn Mawr (the pot-bac program is co-ed), and Harvard Extension.</p>

<p>I'm not sure why you believe that you need a green card to go to medical school. Are you positive that you can't go to medical school on an F-1 visa?</p>

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<p>How much to doctors make in your country? In the US they don't make enough to take on that kind of debt for undergrad. Also, here med schools are so hard to get into that only about 10% of kids wanting to get in do.</p>

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<p>There are colleges in the U.S. who will let you take the final for the college course and if you pass it, give you credit for the class. I have seen information about this both on the Ohio State web site and on the University of Texas web site. It is very unusual to get a lot of credit this way and colleges do not encourage this.</p>

<p>A much easier route? There are colleges that are very generous with College Board CLEP credit and let students like you take CLEP tests and subsequently give you credit for the classes. Many colleges have smooth, easy systems that allow you to test out of many classes, a year or more of college.</p>

<p>Public colleges and less selective private schools are most likely to give you the most CLEP credit. (Selective private colleges want you to pay to take the classes with them, even if you already know the material.)</p>

<p>If you think you know a subject well and you deserve credit in that area and you happen to fail the CLEP test, you are allowed to retake it in six months.</p>

<p>See Baldwin Wallace college's policy here as a private school example:<br>
B-W:</a> Advanced Placement & College Level Examination Credit</p>

<p>See page 8 of this .pdf for Ohio State's policy:
<a href="http://www.ureg.ohio-state.edu/ourweb/Tests/TestsContent/CurrentEM.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ureg.ohio-state.edu/ourweb/Tests/TestsContent/CurrentEM.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Most med school won't accept a bachelor degree from Sweden even if I do the pre-reqs over there. Also, some accept F-1 visa, but that's only like 8 of the 125 universities offering med school.</p>

<p>I will have to pay back about $400 per month, and that can't be a problem, right? Here, when they have finished the residency, the make about $80.000 per year independent of specialty.</p>

<p>Okay, the schools I'm going to contact are state universities. So I'm likely to have the possibility to read faster than the average student then?</p>

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<p>Credit-by-Examination at St. Cloud State University in Minnesota
(an example of a college with a straight forward policy for credit by exam - you choose the classes that you think you already know and arrange for tests in them - there are other schools like this - you just have to find them)</p>

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A student may earn a maximum of 30 semester hours of credit by examination. Entering freshman students are eligible to take examinations for credit if they have a "B" average in high school in the area to be examined and for all high school work. Requests for exceptions will be considered when test scores or other evidence suggests greater ability than the high school record indicates. </p>

<p>All other students who meet the qualifications listed below may apply to take credit examinations:</p>

<p>The student must have a "B" average for all university work taken in the subject area of the examination. </p>

<p>A student should have a "C" average for all university work taken at St. Cloud State University. A student must have completed at least one semester and at least 15 credits in order to apply to take credit examinations. </p>

<p>Students may not take examinations at a level below that of courses already taken in an area. For example, a student who has completed a 200-level course in a specific subject area may not take an examination for credit in a 100-level course in the same area without the special approval of the dean. Exceptions may be made in the case of transfer students who, in the judgment of the chairperson of the department involved, have not had previous opportunity to cover the material in the 100- level course. </p>

<p>Students having completed 75 or more semester hours may not receive credit by examination in courses at the 100- or 200-level. Departments may recommend exceptions to this policy. </p>

<p>A student may not take an examination in a course more than once.
Credit received by examination counts toward residence, general education, major and minor requirements. Examinations are graded on a satisfactory/unsatisfactory basis. Only "satisfactory" grades are entered on the student's permanent record. </p>

<p>Examinations for credit may be requested in any course. The final authority for determining whether a student may take a course by examination rests with the department chairperson involved. </p>

<p>Students are not required to take the examination in the same semester in which they apply. For example, students are encouraged to apply in the spring semester for examinations to be taken in the fall, thus permitting the use of summer for reading and preparation. </p>

<p>Application forms are available in the Office of Records and Registration, 118 Administrative Services Bldg., 720 Fourth Avenue South, St. Cloud, MN 56301-4498. Cost of credit-by-examination is one-third the cost of a student's tuition rate per credit.

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<p>I suggest you look at the "Minnesota State" universities for possibilities. You definitely can finish early. Not at the selective colleges people usually talk about on this forum, but at many colleges.</p>

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<p>I have just contacted seven universities none of which had openings for this fall, despite being listed at NACAC. I will continue to go through the results on that site, but if I can't find one, will it be possible to study at a CC for 6 months and then transfer to a university?</p>

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<p>Hiram College is one of the "colleges that change lives" and is listed as having possible openings. Also, they are pretty nice about giving you credit for taking clep tests.
<a href="http://www.hiram.edu/current/offices/documents/HiramCLEP.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.hiram.edu/current/offices/documents/HiramCLEP.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Hiram College
Hiram</a> College
Enrollment: 1,000 - 4,999
Private
Sherman C. Dean, II
<a href="mailto:admission@hiram.edu">admission@hiram.edu</a>
330.569.6102 </p>

<p>If they'd let you in for this fall, I think you couldn't get a scholarship for this fall, but they do offer internatinal students scholarships, so maybe for the 2009 2010 school year you could get a scholarship.</p>

<p>It is a nice college. The campus is pretty. It is close to the city of Cleveland. Several of my co-workers went there and they loved it.</p>

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<p>Another possible college might be the College of St. Catherine in St. Paul Minnesota. They are also listed as having openings. They are very nice about giving you credit for taking clep tests.
College</a> of St. Catherine - SAT®, AP®, CLEP®
This is a women's college but you can register for classes at St. Thomas, Hamline, Augsburg, and Macalester, and there are plenty of opportunities to be around men from these schools or the University of Minnesota.</p>

<p>College of Saint Catherine
The</a> College of St. Catherine: Private Women's Catholic College, Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minnesota
Enrollment: 1,000 - 4,999
Private
Marlene Mohs
<a href="mailto:mmohs@stkate.edu">mmohs@stkate.edu</a>
651-690-6932 </p>

<p>The campus is very pretty. The college is very supportive of pre-med students.</p>

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PRE-MEDICINE
Most medical schools consider a four-year liberal arts background the best preparation for studying medicine and for a professional career as a practicing physician. Application for admission to a medical school is normally made after the junior year of college. To be eligible for admission, students must complete a series of specific prerequisite courses as part of their undergraduate program at St. Catherine's. While prerequisite requirements vary in detail, all emphasize course work in the natural sciences. However, because medical schools do not require a specific academic major for admission, students may complete these prerequisite courses as part of an undergraduate program that includes any major of their choosing.</p>

<p>The prerequisite courses that are often required for admission to medical school include:
BIOL 121, 122 General Biology
CHEM 111, 112 General Chemistry
CHEM 201, 202 Organic Chemistry
CHEM 440 Biochemistry
MATH 113 Calculus (some schools require MATH 114 as well)
PHYS 108, 109 Physics for the Health Sciences or 111,112 Introductory Physics
PSYC 100 General Psychology
English Literature and composition (2 or 3 courses)

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