<p>w.e. ppl, look at the entering freshman class at Harvard Law school, cornell has a fine representation there. You guys can say all you want, but its up there with the other ball players.</p>
<p>I am going to Stanford and I guess that does affect how I think about other schools that I got into. I know some geniouses who are going to cornell from my school but they ended up going because they were rejected everywhere else they wanted to go. I know that is not the case for everyone but it does put that certain impression in my mind that Cornell is for the students that are not able to get into the higher ranked schools. I know this impression is most likely wrong but when I have seen it happen so many times that it just gives me that certain bias that I think many people have. no offense to the school at all</p>
<p>I was accepted to a bunch of places, JHU, NW, Chicago, Duke, so basically, I should have gone to Duke according to the standards on this board. I also got into Rice, but that school doesn't get respect on this board either.</p>
<p>Cornell is a safety school for higher up schools very often, overall - maybe not in your school, but overall</p>
<p>Doesn't mean its a bad school, just saying</p>
<p>you can say the same thing about Duke. Almost every student from my school that had above a 1500 and 94 average got accepted to Duke. However, only two, none of the others got accepted to H, Y, S, MIT and I am referring to over 15 kids.</p>
<p>bball87,</p>
<p>just commenting what you said about your uncle's (or whoever) firm. i bet it's in nyc. if that's the case, it is not suprising he sees more from ivies/east coast schools than from stanford, northwestern, and chicago because many stanford grads stay in northern cal and many northwestern/chicago grads stay around chicago. those are their respective "turfs". unless it's someone truly exceptional, firms are not gonna spend on expensive tickets/hotel rooms just to recruit for entry level positions when they can find the same talents locally or someone only a very short flight away (cheap tickets). this is true especially if the firms (like most big ones) have offices all over the country. many students also tend to look for jobs locally. i live in la and while you hardly see any usc/ucla alums in the northeast, they are everywhere here.</p>
<p>Bball:</p>
<p>Are you joking? Duke has always had a lower acceptance rate than Cornell. I am even shocked that is in dispute right now. Duke has always been more selective and so has Dartmouth. Just look at the yield rates. Upenn, Columbia, and Duke are all around 50/50 in respect to one another in terms of which school students decide to pick. Cornell is not.</p>
<p>By the way, I am a houstonian and I personally think Rice owns all our souls. Cheers.</p>
<p>Yeah in my school it was the opposite. Just about everyone was rejected by Duke and most of the kids were accepted by Cornell.</p>
<p>bball, good thing I said "overall" so you wouldn't make some remark about your school...oh wait</p>
<p>harvard
yale
princeton
stanford
duke
dartmouth
MIT
Columbia
Brown
Chicago
Penn</p>
<p>These are the eleven NATIONAL U's with the best top grad school placement based upon a study done by the Wall Street Journal.</p>
<p>Berekely
Havard
Mit
Cal Tech
Chicago
Stanford
Yale
Princeton</p>
<p>^ sorry about spelling and in no particular order.</p>
<p>good call listing all ten schools.</p>
<p>don't get ****ed off cause Duke's not on it.</p>
<p>Hahaha...whatever.</p>
<p>B-ball look how much bigger Cornell is in size compared to the schools it is competing with. Its more than twice the size of most of them so of course it "represents" well at Harvard Law.</p>
<p>Anyway my personal thoughts to what makes a top undergrad experience is academics (great professors who are accessible), reputation (grad school and career placement), selectivity (the quality of the student body DOES matter), and alumni happiness.</p>
<p>In my personal opinion the top "tenish" UNDERGRADUATE schools are:</p>
<p>Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Caltech</p>
<p>Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore, Duke, Dartmouth, Brown, Columbia, Penn</p>
<p>The top UNIVERSITIES overall (graduate institutions which in my opinion includes faculty research, international recognition, etc) are in no particular order:</p>
<p>Harvard, Yale, MIT, Stanford, Caltech, Columbia, Chicago, Princeton, Michigan, Cal, Penn, and Cornell </p>
<p>(closely followed by Northwestern and Hopkins)</p>
<p>if Northwestern is on these lists, then Rice should be too...</p>
<p>bball, Cornell has 44 at Harvard law. Dartmouth has 34, but the student body is about 30% the size of Cornell's. Per student, Cornell has the lowest Harvard Law entrance in the Ivy league by a substantial margin followed by Penn.</p>
<p>I'd say they're: HYPSM, Caltech, Duke, Columbia, Penn, and the last one a toss-up between Chicago, Berkeley, Dart, and Brown</p>
<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>I think Uchicago has earned that last spot though. However, Dartmouth is very nice as well. Let us have them tied, shall we?</p>