<p>Like the adage say, there are lies, and there are . . .</p>
<p>As great as many of the schools numbers are for entry to the better-named schools, what does it mean? What happens to those numbers when the exemplary student applies to lesser known LAC’s which provide an equal – or I fear to say this – better education, especially for that particular applicant? Is the high school deemed worse? That student obviously lessens the numbers, and may lead one to less respect the high school as the percentage of ivy entrants is less than a peer private school of repute. </p>
<p>Second, how many of the admissions are derivatives of advantage? Previously, one mentioned schools where the faculty’s children went. Isn’t that an edge? Or how about money – real money – which admissions counselors cannot ignore? And, what about enough money to make one capable of applying early admission without concern for scholarship? Or, how about enough money to pay for the courses on the tests, hire a counselor, and enroll in schools with reputation to the admissions team of these schools? These do play in the equation. And, if you have a few dollars, and are willing to part with them for the education, your child will more likely receive admissions than a person of equal caliber who seeks financing. And, I would guess that a good majority of the students represented in the private academies have received any of the above-listed edges. </p>
<p>As much as those numbers tell one side of the story of the high schools, I ponder about how to gather a more informative calculation. Analogizing the high school to a hospital, I am less concerned about the hospital that receives relatively healthy patients at intake and let them leave in good health. I would like to see the schools that receive infirmed patients, and let them leave on equal health. Without substantive calculations like the previous posts for percentage admitted/enrolled in great colleges, this is a much harder item to gauge. But, wouldn’t that be a better test for the school’s education? For the school?</p>
<p>Thanks for all this info. This is terrific. Is there a way to look at this info a different way to get to the top high schools who send the most to Stanford Univeristy?</p>
<p>collegeplanning: Look into these schools for Stanford</p>
<p>Menlo School, Atherton
College Prep, Oakland
Univ. Prep, San francisco
Castellija, Palo Alto (Girls Only)
The Harker School, San Jose (On an average 8 students matriculate to Stanford every year)</p>
<p>Thanks ParentOfIvyHope!! Curious to see how you got this info. Is this based on some list if so, which one. Is this based on your own research not realy a list? Reason I asked is because I have been looking around various website, but seems like this info is not assembled in a list like say the usual Top x High Schools, Tox x Charter Schools etc. Thanks so much!</p>
<p>It is from my personal research but the list was not in the order from top to low.
Things changes from year to year so you need to get the matriculation list from each of schools. But those 5 are the schools that are in a position to send most in % and may be in absolute number too to Stanford.</p>
<p>There is an online website that provide you the list for any college for around $40</p>
<p>collegeplanning- check out post 257. Top feeders for Stanford & others reported based upon my calculations for ~110 schools I had data for at that moment. I am sure I updated that analysis later in the thread (with more high schools reported), but haven’t found it yet. PC</p>
<p>Would rather not disclose the school, but it’s a regular public HS in NY. Only requirement is town residence. Class of 337 graduates. Notable matriculation:</p>
<p>Harvard 2
Yale 2
Penn 7
Brown 2
Dartmouth 1
Columbia 3
Cornell 23 (!)
Duke 4
Johns Hopkins 3
Caltech 1
MIT 1</p>
<p>We had 10% of the class accepted at Cornell. I think a guidance counselor must be sleeping with an admissions officer.</p>
<p>^^ Unless the HS is Ithaca High in which case the 10% acceptance would be quite low ;). Actually, Ithaca High has a larger graduating class, I believe.</p>
<p>this is kind of discouraging yet enlightening. Our public HS boasts of large numbers to Ivy League schools, however I realize how low it really is in comparison to private schools. Does little to dispel the myth that these schools are predominantly for the upper echelons.</p>
<p>Mattmom: There is a lot of racial and socio-economic diversity at these prep schools. Since the 70s, these schools have had very strong programs designed to build diverse classes.</p>
<p>the roxbury et al phenom is a function of the historically close connection between certain prep schools and certain ivies, and specifically the number of families with mult-generational ties to both. It has little to do with the education provided by the prep school itself much less how much it costs.</p>
<p>Harvard, in particular, makes no apologies for taking these relationships into account as a factor in admissions. And at a school like roxbury, if harvard dares to take less than the usual number of roxbury students, admissions is flooded with complaints from harvard and roxbury trustees who are frequently one and the same or at least related.</p>
<p>But then again it’s not much different from the leg up given to professors’ kids [but without the free tuition]. At least with legacies, their families helped build and finacially support the institution.</p>
<p>“It has little to do with the education provided by the prep school itself”</p>
<p>I don’t know that I agree with that. For one thing, these kids are very low risk admits. Colleges have great confidence that they can shine academically, because they’ve all been challenged in a way that’s indistinguishable from what they’ll face at HYP. You can’t be as certain about that even when a kid went to an excellent suburban public high school.</p>
<p>Of course you’re right that legacy/trustee relationships matter, but I think it also has a lot to do with a factor you don’t mention, which is the initial selection process and who attends Roxbury in the first place. The admissions process is already screening for the traits HYP looks for, like high test scores, diversity, etc. It’s no surprise that people who do well in that kind of screening at age 12 or 14 do equally well at age 18.</p>
<p>Have to agree with Hanna. Kids from the top prep schools come back to reunions a year later and pronounce college “easy” compared to the work they did in high school. Not only were the kids prescreened at age 14 for high test scores, athletic/arts ability, minority/wealthy status, they have survived four years of a very rigorous curriculum.</p>
<p>Illinois Mathematics and Science Academy: universities/colleges with largest graduate enrollment, Classes of 2009-2011</p>
<p>University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign (126)
**Northwestern University<a href=“32”>/b</a>
**University of Chicago<a href=“22”>/b</a>
University of Illinois Chicago (21)
Illinois Institute of Technology (18)
**Carnegie Mellon University<a href=“16”>/b</a>
**Massachusetts Institute of Technology<a href=“16”>/b</a>
St. Louis University (12)
Washington University in St. Louis (12)
University of Rochester (11)
**California Institute of Technology<a href=“9”>/b</a>
University of Wisconsin Madison (8)
Iowa State University (7)
Loyola University Chicago (7)
**Stanford University<a href=“7”>/b</a>
University of Southern California (7)
Case Western Reserve University (6)
The University of Alabama (6)
Boston University (5)
Knox College (5)
Michigan State University (5)
**Princeton University<a href=“5”>/b</a>
University of Notre Dame (5)
University of Pittsburgh (5)
**Vanderbilt University<a href=“5”>/b</a>
DePaul University (4)
Emory University (4)
The George Washington University (4)
Georgia Institute of Technology (4)
Harvey Mudd College (4)
Marquette University (4)
Missouri University of Science and Technology (4)
**Rice University<a href=“4”>/b</a>
St. Olaf College (4)
University of Missouri Kansas City (4)
**University of Pennsylvania<a href=“4”>/b</a>
**Yale University<a href=“4”>/b</a></p>
<p>Props to retrohippo for helping me find this.</p>
<p>Matriculation
College Class of '13 5 Yr. Total
Albert A. List College 1 1
American Univ. of Paris 0 1
American University 0 3
Amherst College 1 11
Arizona State 0 2
Art Center College of Design 1 1
Azusa Pacific University 0 1
Babson College 0 3
Bard College 1 5
Barnard College 1 13
Bates College 0 1
Baylor University 0 1
Berklee College of Music 1 1
Boston College 6 22
Boston University 4 18
Bowdoin College 1 5
Brandeis University 0 4
Brigham Young 0 1
Brown University 6 33
Bryn Mawr 0 1
Bucknell University 1 5
Butler University 1 1
Cal Arts 0 1
Cal Lutheran 0 1
Cal Poly Pomona 0 2
Cal Poly San Luis Obispo 1 1
Cal State U. Long Beach 0 1
Cal State U. Los Angeles 0 1
Cal State U. Northridge 0 1
Carleton College 0 7
Carnegie Mellon University 2 8
Case Western Reserve 0 4
Central Saint Martins 0 1
Champlain College 0 1
Chapman University 0 2
Claremont McKenna 2 6
Colby College 0 1
Colgate University 0 9
Colorado College 3 8
Columbia College Chicago 0 1
Columbia U./Sciences Po 0 1
Columbia University 9 46
Connecticut College 1 1
Cornell University 12 53
Dartmouth College 0 14
Davidson College 2 6
Denison University 0 1
Dickinson College 0 1
DigiPen Inst. of Technology 0 1
Duke University 4 16
Earlham College 0 1
Eastman School of Music 1 1
Eckerd College 0 1
Elon University 0 1
Embry Riddle 0 1
Emerson College 8 22
Emory University 4 17
Eugene Lang College 0 4
Evergreen State University 0 1
Fordham University 0 1
George Washington U. 0 9
Georgetown University 1 13
Georgia Institute of Technology 1 1
Hamilton College 0 3
Hampshire College 1 3
Harvard University 7 32
Harvey Mudd College 0 1
Haverford College 0 2
Hofstra University 0 1
Indiana University 1 6
Johns Hopkins University 5 16
Kenyon College 3 22
Lafayette College 1 2
Lawrence University 0 1
Lehigh University 0 1
Lewis & Clark College 1 1
Loyola Marymount U. 1 2
Manhattanville College 0 1
Mass. Institute of Technology 1 12
McGill University 1 2
Middlebury College 0 6
Montana State University 1 1
Morehouse College 0 2
New York University 20 76
Northeastern University 2 8
Northwestern University 0 16
Oberlin College 4 11
Occidental College 0 1
Ohio Wesleyan University 1 1
Otis College of Art & Design 0 1
Oxford College of Emory 1 1
Oxford University 1 2
Pasadena City College 0 1
Pepperdine University 0 2
Pitzer College 0 3
Pomona College 0 4
Pratt Institute 1 1
Princeton University 7 24
Reed College 1 5
Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst. 0 2
Rhode Island School of Design 0 2
Rhodes College 0 1
Rice University 1 5
Richmond Intl. American U. 0 2
San Francisco State U. 0 2
Santa Clara University 1 3
Santa Monica College 0 2
Sarah Lawrence College 1 3
Savannah Coll. of Art & Design 0 1
School of Art Inst. Chicago 0 1
Scripps College 1 3
Seton Hall University 0 1
Sewanee: Univ. of the South 0 1
Skidmore College 0 4
Smith College 0 1
Southern Methodist U. 0 7
St. Mary’s College - Moraga 0 2
Stanford University 13 59
Swarthmore College 1 5
Syracuse University 1 3
Texas A&M University 0 1
Texas Christian University 0 1
The Ohio State University 0 1
The Penn State University 1 2
Trinity College - Connecticut 0 1
Trinity University 0 1
Tufts University 4 12
Tulane University 5 7
U. of Colorado - Boulder 2 9
U. of Wisconsin, Madison 1 11
UC Berkeley 7 22
UC Davis 1 7
UC Irvine 1 4
UC Los Angeles 3 25
UC Merced 0 1
UC San Diego 2 5
UC Santa Barbara 0 8
UC Santa Cruz 0 6
UNC - Chapel Hill 0 1
Univ. of Mass. 0 1
University of Arizona 1 2
University of Chicago 7 27
University of Delaware 1 1
University of Edinburgh 1 1
University of Hawaii 0 1
University of Illinois 2 3
University of Iowa 1 1
University of La Verne 0 1
University of Maryland 0 4
University of Miami 0 7
University of Michigan 19 84
University of Nevada - Reno 1 1
University of Notre Dame 0 3
University of Oregon 0 2
University of Paris - Sorbonne 0 1
University of Pennsylvania 11 60
University of Pittsburgh 1 1
University of Puget Sound 1 3
University of Richmond 3 4
University of Rochester 0 3
University of San Diego 0 1
University of San Francisco 1 2
University of Southern California 18 129
University of St. Andrews 0 1
University of Texas - Austin 1 3
University of the Arts 0 1
University of the Pacific 2 2
University of Virginia 1 4
University of Washington 0 4
US Air Force Academy 0 1
US Military Academy 0 3
US Naval Academy 0 1
Vanderbilt University 6 21
Vassar College 1 10
Villanova University 0 1
Wake Forest 0 1
Washington U. - St. Louis 14 50
Wellesley College 2 6
Wesleyan University 5 27
Westmont College 1 1
Wheaton College 0 2
Whitman College 0 1
Willamette University 0 1
William and Mary 0 1
Williams College 1 6
Woodbury University 0 1
Yale University 5 32</p>