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<p>This is what we were debating about. And the fact that my relative and her classmates from a top 5 b school do not concur with your observations. I did not say that they only recruit from the top 5, they recruit from the top 20 and Rutgers is not one of them.</p>
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<p>Here are some facts.</p>
<p>(1) The Rutgers Pharmaceutical MBA program is one of the oldest of its kind</p>
<p>(2) NJ is the WORLD’s medicine chest - every major pharmaceutical company has operations in NJ (Novartis, Bayer, JNJ, Pfizer, Roche, Schering/Merck, Celgene … I can go on) - location works in Rutgers’ favor</p>
<p>(3) The Rutgers Pharmaceutical MBA is sponsored by BMS, Eisai, JNJ, Merck, Novartis … </p>
<p>(4) ALL OF THEM RECRUIT AT RUTGERS - I have been to Rutgers Career Fairs, I have talked to the Exec Staffing of HR at Novartis, and it even says so on their website.</p>
<p>(5) The Rutgers Pharmaceutical MBA program is extremely small - 20 students per graduating class with 100% internship placement and 100% FT position placement</p>
<p>Edit: In terms of MBA-recruitment, you will find that many pharmaceutical companies hire into special “rotation/leadership development programs” that place students into a rigorous 2 year program that allows them to rotate in different commercial areas - sales, marketing, managed care, market access, etc. </p>
<p>I have found that these leadership development programs are a very popular way for MBA students to gain access into the pharmaceutical industry - most of the job positions in the pharmaceutical industry are very high level and aren’t suited for someone straight out of business school, even if they do have 2-3 years of finance or consulting under their belt. </p>
<p>JNJ, Roche/Genentech, Novartis, Celgene are some companies off the top of my head who I know do this. So oftentimes, they are not recruiting for a specific position (e.g. Associate Director of Business Development) but rather for these special rotation programs</p>
<p>Lurker, don’t be fooled by Rutger’s promotional materials.
<a href=“1”>quote</a> The Rutgers Pharmaceutical MBA program is one of the oldest of its kind
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OK, so what?</p>
<p><a href=“2”>quote</a> NJ is the WORLD’s medicine chest - every major pharmaceutical company has operations in NJ (Novartis, Bayer, JNJ, Pfizer, Roche, Schering/Merck, Celgene … I can go on) - location works in Rutgers’ favor
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<p>No argument here. Since Wall Street is also in New York, why haven’t we heard that they also target Hunter College, Fordham, St. John’s,Yeshiva, City University of NY and tons of local NY schools for investment banks positions?
Location doesn’t mean anything. Recruiters travel.</p>
<p><a href=“3”>quote</a> The Rutgers Pharmaceutical MBA is sponsored by BMS, Eisai, JNJ, Merck, Novartis …
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Yes, of course, for public relations. Why not?
It doesn’t mean they have to hire anyone.</p>
<p>(4) ALL OF THEM RECRUIT AT RUTGERS - I have been to Rutgers Career Fairs, I have talked to the Exec Staffing of HR at Novartis, and it even says so on their website.
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I haven’t been to any Rutgers Career Fairs and you only have experience at Novartis</p>
<p>I know of rotational internships. They are very popular in manufacturing companies. Very few MBAs from top schools go into manufacturing side. That’s exactly my point. You can’t say that
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<p>It’s like working in an investment bank, there are back office, middle office and front office. Same with pharma industry. If you wish to work in the front office of the pharma industry, don’t go to Rutgers.</p>
<p>My relative and her friends were not in any pharmaceutical MBA programs and they had no trouble finding great positions in the pharma industry. As a matter of fact, their skillset is very transferable, they can also work in any industry, tech, consumer care, food and beverage, fashion, etc. Don’t get pigeon holed in any type of industry so you can find other jobs if that industry falls out of favor.</p>
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<p>Genentech, Novartis, and JNJ allhave very prestigious rotation programs that definitely not limited to manufacturing - Genentech especially is known for their commercial rotation and CFO rotation development programs. They are not limited to manufacturing by any means - placement into product management is very common. </p>
<p>We’ll have to agree to disagree - I hope people who view this topic later learn a little about recruiting from the pharmaceutical industry from our little “debate.”</p>
<p>The end.</p>
<p>Sorry cbreeze I think Lurker won this argument. </p>
<p>Cbreeze you seem really upset with Rutgers did you not get accepted? Just kidding lol.</p>
<p>HR doesn’t make the final decision when it comes to interviewing at these pharma companies. An MBA student would have to go through several rounds before getting an offer. The odds that one of those department heads will be a Rutgers graduate (undergrad or MBA) is highly likely. THAT right there is worth more than the extra 30k to 50k (excluding interest) extra you would have to pay to go to the top 10 schools. </p>
<p>ROI is a big issue now. I see weekly articles and economist warning about the education debt bubble. I know very smart people that have the qualifications and GMAT scores to get into top 10 schools but are opting out for cheaper quality Universities. I guess this has a lot to do with the stagnate economy. It’s really what you get out of the program and how you network. </p>
<p>I think Sheri McCoy went to Rutgers MBA.? She’s next in line to become the CEO of Johnson & Johnson. I could almost guarantee that some of the top executives at Novartis went to Rutgers.</p>
<p>Sheri McCoy did attend Rutgers (though not the pharmaceutical management program since it was not established yet). The CEO of Roche also obtained his MBA from Rutgers. </p>
<p>Rutgers is very well represented in the pharmaceutical industry …</p>
<p>(1) The Rutgers MBA program is one of the best of its kind.
(2) The Rutgers Pharmaceutical Fellowship program has a long history of placing graduates into high level rotation programs.<br>
(3) Even Rutgers undergrad is heavily recruited by the likes of JNJ - they are the biggest recruiter on campus by far for their undergrad leadership development programs. </p>
<p>CBREEZE makes a good point in that going to a good school will definitely not hurt, but I just wanted to paint a “fuller” picture and show that being successful in the pharmaceutical industry doesn’t begin and end with target schools like management consulting and front office banking does.</p>