<p>Are there any rankings on this?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>UIUC comes to my mind,</p>
<p>California Institute of Technology
Columbia University
Cornell University
Harvard University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Northwestern University
Princeton University
Stanford University
University of Caifornia-Berkeley
University of California-Los Angeles
University of Chicago
University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
University of Texas-Austin
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Yale University</p>
<p>Remind me to give you a list of top LACs for Chemistry.</p>
<p>hmm...not so much URochester huh? =(</p>
<p>Probably Oberlin College for LAC strong in Sciences</p>
<p>Harvey Mudd, Wabash, Reed, Carleton, Bowdoin, Grinnell, Haverford, Franklin and Marshall, College of Wooster, Bryn Mawr, Allegheny, Knox, Occidental, Bates, Juniata, Kalamazoo, Williams, Swarthmore, Oberlin, Andrews, Holy Cross, St. Olaf, Hendrix, Hope, Davidson, Ursinus, Kenyon, Macalester, Centre, Wellesley, Wheaton, Trinity U, Lawrence U, Colgate, Ripon, Drew, Willamette, Beloit, Augustana, Hiram, Lake Forest, Gustavus Adolphus, Rose-Hulman, Albion, Amherst, Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Hamline, Bethel, Mount Holyoke, U Puget Sound</p>
<p>Awakien, U Rochester's chem department is ranked 32, slightly worse than JHU's and slightly better than Michigan's.</p>
<p>Just curious - source? (for future reference)</p>
<p>NRC (part of the National Science Foundation) rankings. Keep in mind that they rank graduate programs and are not always relevant to undergrad study (they leave out LACs, for one thing). </p>
<p>damn LACs complicate everything lol, im somehow feeling left out of the whole undergrad experience at a LAC...and im going to a college that emphasizes the complete opposite of being "well rounded..."</p>
<p>btw Thank you very much for the link, ive been looking all over for this!</p>
<p>Waterbubbles, the NRC rankings are over 10 years old. Things have changed since 1993. Rochester is indeed very solid in Chemistry, but some programs have really pushed hard when it comes to the life sciences. Michigan has invested over half a billion on the Biological, Chemical and Medical sciences over the last decade.</p>
<p>Waterbubbles?!?! Jeez, way to go to mangle my name. :eek:</p>
<p>Yes, which is one reason they're not terribly relevant. New rankings are slated to come out in 2007, though (with 16 new fields, supposedly). The LACs I went through personally (as well as biology, physics, math, and geology), so don't argue with me there. :)</p>
<p>Sorry Warblersrule, my fiancee and I were watching Finding Nemo last night, so water bubbles stuck! LOL </p>
<p>Your LAC list certainly looks good, but I think there is a wide gap between the better ones (like HMC and Carleton) and the weaker ones.</p>
<p>If you are really into chemistry and want to go to grad school, Harvey Mudd has a steller program that boasts sending 80% of its students onto a PhD.
<a href="http://www.chem.hmc.edu/www_common/chemistry/prospective/intro06.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.chem.hmc.edu/www_common/chemistry/prospective/intro06.htm</a></p>
<p>Gourman Report undergrad chemistry ranking:
Caltech
UC Berkeley
Harvard
MIT
Columbia
Stanford
Illimois Urbana Champaign
U Chicago
UCLA
Wisconsin Madison
Cornell
Northwestern
Princeton
Yale
Purdue
UNC Chapel Hill
Ohio State
Texas Austin
Iowa State
Indiana Bloomington
UC San Diego
Minnesota
Notre Dame
Penn State
Brown
U Rochester
Carnegie Mellon
U Penn
Rice
Michigan Ann Arbor
U Washington
Colorado Boulder
Texas A&M
USC
U Pittsburgh
U Florida
UC Riverside
dartmouth
UC Santa Barbara
UC Irvine
Johns Hopkins
UC Davis
U Utah
U Oregon
Duke
Michigan State
RPI
UVA
Florida State
Vanderbilt
Case Western
u Iowa
Georgia Tech</p>
<p>These are the best chemistry departments in the country, based on statistical evidence collected by ISI/Sciencewatch, the world's most respected authority on scientific research. Faculty gain and lose tenure based on what the ISI says about their research.</p>
<p>Obviously, Yale, Caltech, Harvard and MIT are the best and also happen to be the best for undergraduate work. If you're limiting yourself to LACs (which is silly, because schools like HYP and Caltech actually have more student-faculty attention than any LAC), Wesleyan and Wellesley are particularly strong in chemistry.</p>
<p>Don't go by older rankings or "reputation" rankings like Gourman or USNews, because they do not reflect the current reality of the departments' research. Also, some of them are particularly biased towards very large departments such as Berkeley or Purdue (because the more people they have, the more votes they get), even if in quality terms, many of these large places do not match up with the quality of a Caltech, Yale or MIT.</p>
<p>Harvard does NOT have good faculty to student attention. Some LACs with excellent Chemistry departments include:</p>
<p>Carleton College
Grinnell College
Harvey Mudd College
Haverford College
Lawrence University
Pomona College
Rose Hulman Institute of Technology
Swarthmore College
Williams College</p>
<p>If we are talking about LAC after personal visits and lots of research I do commend very highly Hiram OH, Lawrence WI, Lake Forest IL, Knox IL, Wooster OH. Very strong programs with lots of equipment, good studies and opportunities.</p>
<p>Yes, Harvey Mudd is another especially good one.</p>
<p>Duke, Tufts, Holy Cross, Wellesley, Hopkins, Notre Dame.</p>
<p>I find it unusual that no one mentioned NYU's Chemistry program, especially the B.S./B.E. program with Stevens Institute of Technology. NYU has a great undergraduate chem program, you'll love the professors here, and the courses are easy A's.</p>
<p>The NYU chem department had an explosion a few years ago in a lab, nearly killing two students. The chemistry students there I've talked with have recommended against the program.</p>