<p>Yes, I do say it from a biased point of view. I'll admit it, I'm in the program. </p>
<p>Here's a bit of advice someone gave me once that I'd like to share - "If you're good, you're good." As much as we like to quibble over school rankings, the school you went to for college doesn't really matter as much as some people like to think. If you are qualified for a job and want it, you have about just as decent a chance of getting it from any of the schools mentioned in this thread.</p>
<p>That is when a host of other factors came into school selection for me - location, cost, atmosphere, student life, etc. These, I believe, are far more important than ranking. Ranking, prestige, or whatever you want to call it might open some doors for you, but don't think you are shortchanging yourself by not going to a 'top 3, 4, or 5' business school.</p>
<p>ok....reality here. I am pretty sick of people saying that omg NYU is soooo expensive. is it really? let's see the tuition and fees+room/board at:
Stern: $33420+$11780=$45200
Wharton: $34156+$9804=$43960
So, for a grand total difference of $1240 per year. so really, is there actually ALOT of difference? I don't think its fit to say....omg, it is just SOOO expensive. i mean i can afford upto $44000 but that extra $1200 just kills me, right? lol. You pay for the city: NYC...we all know its expensive. You pay for the education, the experience...everyone has a different opinion of what they want from their college education and let me tell you, to be living is NYC for most people is pretty incredible!</p>
<p>living in NYC is pretty incredible until you realize the type of budget you need. i was over in greenwich village shopping at some vintage store i saw some cool genuine 70s and 80s tees, looked kinda 2nd hand but i was interested. i bring up one shirt for a price-check and it was $35. thats for one tee that looks second-hand. can you imagine shopping designer???</p>
<p>note: parents dont give your daughters going to NYU credit cards !!!! !!!!</p>
<p>Apart from the campus life, the 4 year college experience, the most important factor, in my opinion, is the placement records. </p>
<ol>
<li>Which companies are active and regularly recruit from the campus?</li>
<li>Do they fit into my 'focus industry'/'type of career'?</li>
<li>How active are the undergrad alumni body, in helping the new graduates?</li>
<li>Is the Graduate Program (MBA) one of the top destination for the recruiters?</li>
</ol>
<p>It is true, academicall bright students with proven leadrship qualities, from all the universities, are likely to secure good jobs. The question is primarily for those students, who,generally, do not stand out in a crowd of 300 ~ 500 students. For them, the brand name of the university and the recognition of the undergraduate business program,usually, play a major role. One must also remember that the top MC Firms and the so-called 'Wall Street' jobs are more crowded by the Ivy League,Top Private, Top LACs, and the undergrad degree is not Business Administration.</p>
<p>Purely from the recognition of the undergrad business degree, to a wider cross section of employers, the top ones are:</p>
<p>Okay.. Islamic Law...you can basically have nothing to do with interest. you can take out loans as long as you don't have to pay interest on them....</p>
<p>Sorry for the mix-up Sheed30. I wonder how much it's followed though. A Pakistani Muslim just bought a 4-family across the street from me for $1.5 mil. He is a systems administrator or something similar, so I don't think $1.5 mil would be light change, I have it in the bank type stuff.</p>
<p>Well, there are ways you can do it islamicaly...for example.. a muslims mortage company buys the house for you and then sells it to you for more.</p>
<p>a house cost 1 million
company buys it for 1 million
you put a down payment of 50,000
they sell it to you for 1.2 million
you pay 3,000 per month until you pay off exactly 1.2 million</p>
<p>Interesting. Seems sorta hypocritical, like the muslim mortgage company would be ripping you off while pretending to provide a religious oriented service.</p>
<p>I know USC's Marshall school isn't very top-ranked, prestigious, nor does it offer a level of education anywhere near the other top-tier schools, but does anyone have any personal/second-hand opinion on whether or not it would be a wise decision? (e.g. you know a friend that has had bad experience finding a job, or you know that the grading curve is very detrimental.) </p>
<p>I am considering that school because it is the closest as I live in CA and Berkeley is probably out of the question because of its heavy competition (50% get into Haas after sophmore year). My parents don't want me to go far away, and UCLA, although the campus and prestige is tempting, does not offer an actual business degree (instead it offers Business economics).</p>
<p>I also hear that USC's alumni network (i.e. the Trojan Family) is very vast and supportive for advancing one's career, which is a huge plus--especially if one joins a business fraternity that strengthens business connections. Also, I hear that the financial aid packages are very generous, and our household is lower class, without a doubt, so desperate financial aid should be quite generous. But I also get the impression that USC student's are seen as of less caliber, and they get job offers from past alumni because of an obligation. Can anyone offer any insight on this? If I get into Berkeley, should I go? </p>
<p>The average salary of the two schools only has a $5,000 difference, which in the long run does not seem worth it because Berkeley seems to offer a harsher, more competitive, and ultimately uncertain career path. Also, only a 5,000 difference is pretty impressive for USC as they have roughly 4 times as many students. Am I misinterpreting this analysis? I am also looking into the Human Resource division of management, by the way. Any help will be very appreciated.</p>
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<p>Well, I don't think we know what the real numbers are, because if they would really sell you a 1 million dollar house to you for 1.2 million dollars with no interest they would be saving you a ton of money and they would be losing their ass on the deal.</p>
<p>Although, if the numbers come out the same, it does seem rather silly to not pay interest just for the sake of not paying interest (when you are still paying the same amount of money).</p>
<p>I see your points Sheed30 and VectorWega. I was referring to online when I looked @ Islamic Mortgage, that Islamic Mortgage companies often make customers pay more than they would with interest rate loans.</p>
<p>Now does Islam prohibit interest, or Riba which is excessive interest which basically makes the borrower a slave to the lender. The latter would seem more plausible because its hard to think someone would just lend you money without expecting a bit more in return considering their oppurtunity costs(it makes perfect financial sense as they are fore-going other useful investments to give you money).
Not debating, I am a muslim as well but I dont know a ton....</p>
<ol>
<li>wharton (prestige, recruiters, many options)</li>
<li>sloan (only 4 options) / stern (in nyc, more options than sloan)</li>
<li>haas / ross (great state school programs)</li>
</ol>
<p>In answer to your question, all of what you post is absolutely true and makes USC a very popular choice--especially for anyone living in California. Note that USC caters primarily to the California market--and has something like 60% of its students from California.</p>
<p>P.S. My son, who is at Indiana University, is considering transferring to USC for just this reason (he wants to work in California upon graduation--and knows full well the value of the USC "network" from people I've introduced him to that are or were top managers at some "name" companies here in California). Oh, and I should point out that I'm a UCLA Anderson alumnus--so it pains me all the time having to point out the good things about USC.</p>
<p>The one bad thing about USC is the high cost of attendance (note that UC Berkeley costs about 1/3 as much when you figure in everything--tuition, housing books, transportation and meals).</p>