USC (marshall) vs. BC (carroll) vs. U of Michigan (ross) vs. NYU (stern)

<p>USC (marshall) vs. BC (carroll) vs. U of Michigan (ross) vs. NYU (stern) </p>

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<p>I am trying to decide between University Of Michigan-Ross School of Business, New York University-Stern School of Business, University of Southern California-Marshall School of Business, and Boston College-Carroll School of Management. I am accepted into all of these undergraduate business programs. For a specific major, I am undecided. I am from outside of Los angeles, so USC is the convenient choice for the high school transition, but lacks the undergrad b-school prestige of the other 3 schools, although it is more prestigious as an entire university. The cost is not an issue because it is about the same at every school. Please give me help on where to choose, taking into account business school opportunities, quality of life, recruitment, grad school admissions, etc. AS well as overall university experience.</p>

<p>“I am from outside of Los angeles, so USC is the convenient choice for the high school transition, but lacks the undergrad b-school prestige of the other 3 schools, although it is more prestigious as an entire university.”</p>

<p>Enough already. USC is NOT more prestigious than Michigan “as an entire university.”</p>

<p>Obviously I’m approaching this from a completely bias/subjective viewpoint, but:</p>

<p>USC (Marshall) > UMichigan (Ross) > NYU (Stern) > BC (Carroll)</p>

<p>They are all excellent programs, but you can’t deny the networking/career opportunities that USC provides over the other schools, though only slightly in some cases. Good luck deciding, and fight on! ;)</p>

<p>I have the same situation!
I can’t decide between UMichigan (Ross) and USC (Marshall).</p>

<p>When i say more prestigious, i don’t mean significantly different, just US news more prestigious, even though i understand the subjective invalid nature of those rankings and take them with a grain of salt. I also know that USC and michigan are pretty much equally prestigious as they are only a few spots away from each other.</p>

<p>Stern will give you the best chance to work on Wall Street, but other than that its pretty similar to Ross and Caroll; they’re all great schools. I don’t think Marshall is as good as the others, but if you want to live/work in LA, pick USC.</p>

<p>“They are all excellent programs, but you can’t deny the networking/career opportunities that USC provides over the other schools, though only slightly in some cases. Good luck deciding, and fight on!”</p>

<p>Really? In NYC, the financial capital of the world, Stern and Ross completely trump USC. USC has 200,000 living alumni of which 75% live in California. Michigan has the largest living alumni base of any university in this country approaching 500,000 who live all over the world. There is also a strong alumni base in California, but not as many obviously as SC. Go Blue!</p>

<p>“In NYC, the financial capital of the world, Stern and Ross completely trump USC.”</p>

<p>This is a subjective presumption, not fact. </p>

<p>From experience, USC provides excellent opportunities in NY and the financial industry overall. I added “only slightly in some cases,” because I do realize that it varies from firm to firm, individual to individual. So perhaps, yes, Stern or Ross would take precedent over Marshall, all else being equal, in certain instances, but there are also instances in which the Marshall graduate would take precedent over Stern or Ross (no “trumping” involved). </p>

<p>All in all, the three programs are relatively equal in terms of prestige and regard. It all comes down to opinions of the OP.</p>

<p>i am from central valley in CA and i have a daughter that went to NYU Stern and we did all the visiting and such, but she couldn’t take the non existent campus along with lack of communal student base, as she put it, thus transferring within the two years to USC and absolutely loved it, along with getting a job right out of graduation from the use of the career center, and “the usc network”. I have no preference for either school and i know can only give insight on two but i guess a major thing to look at is how YOU will fit in on campus, all four are great schools and a degree from any would be great</p>

<p>rjkofnovi, don’t you have better things to do than to ■■■■■ the USC forums? oh, right, it’s probably too cold for you to leave your room.</p>

<p>NYU has no campus, no school spirit, nothing. It’ll get you connections in NYC… but you’ll miss out on the rest of the college experience. As someone from an elite HS in NYC, I knew for a fact that I didn’t want to go to NYU and experience high school part II (considering my school sent ~60 kids there my year…).</p>

<p>Visit the campuses. USC’s climate definitely trumps the others hands down. While my friends were getting snowed in by blizzards back home, I was relaxing at Santa Monica beach. If you’re going by pure prestige it might not matter as much (though USC is definitely improving its academics and in doing so, its prestige), but I don’t think that’s the correct way to approach things; you need to consider the whole experience.</p>

<p>If you’re going to pin your undergraduate happiness on prestige as defined by magazine rankings you may find yourself in for a bumpy ride.</p>

<p>USNWR Undergraduate B-Schools in the top ten:</p>

<p>2011</p>

<ol>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>NYU</li>
<li>USC (Tied with Indiana & Cornell)
NR BC not in top ten</li>
</ol>

<p>2010</p>

<ol>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>NYU
NR USC & BC not in top 10</li>
</ol>

<p>BusinessWeek/Bloomberg</p>

<p>2009 </p>

<ol>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>NYU</li>
<li>BC
21 USC</li>
</ol>

<p>2010</p>

<ol>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>BC</li>
<li>NYU</li>
<li>USC</li>
</ol>

<p>2011</p>

<ol>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>NYU</li>
<li>BC</li>
<li>USC</li>
</ol>

<p>Most undergrad business schools are regional in their hiring; even the mighty Wharton places a huge percentage of its students 100 miles away in NYC. Go to the school that gives you the best chance of success; but acknowledge that proximity to where you ultimately want to live “trumps” a lot of prestige.</p>

<p>Posting my response from the same thread this user posted. (Please don’t start duplicate threads!)</p>

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<p>Facts are stubborn things.</p>

<p>UMich 27,000 undergrads 15,000 grad students = 42,000
USC 16,500 undergrads 19,500 grad students = 36,000
NYU 22,100 undergrads 21,000 grad students = 43,200
BC 9,100 undergrads 4,900 grad students = 14,000</p>

<p>BC “very small”? Hardly. The other three are less than 20% apart.</p>

<p>NYU has no campus, the other three have a centralized campus. </p>

<p>I’m not looking to pick a fight but three of these schools are very similar in size of student body. Three of these schools have centralized campuses with smaller ancillary campuses. Three of these schools exist in four season environments that the “natives” have successfully endured and thrived in for centuries. Go to the place that fits your personality the best. The rest is just noise.</p>

<p>Personally i feel that only USNews rankings make sense. USCs business school isnt as presitigious as Ross or Stern, but it is more prestigious than Carroll, and it is the best ranked overall university in usnews.</p>

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<p>Honestly, though, in comparing sizes, one has to take into account that grad students aren’t on campus 100% of the time – in fact, some don’t even come to campus at all! So yes, in comparison to Michigan’s 27,000 UGs, BCs 9,000 students is “very small” in my opinion. At one school you are a drop in the bucket, the other not so much. You didn’t have to be snotty about it.</p>

<p>I’d also like to think that 27,000 and 22,000 UGs is much larger than 16,000 UGs – so, when looking at UNDERGRADUATES the four schools are completely dissimilar (except maybe NYU/Mich) in terms of enrollment size.</p>

<p>And in terms of weather – I’m sorry, maybe you’re an East Coaster and don’t get it, but it’s very hard for Californians to adjust to dark, dismal and cold winters. Maybe you’ve survived it, but for someone used to not much rain, a dry climate and a majority of sunny days, it is VERY hard to adjust. If one is prone to depression/seasonal depression it is certainly something for a student to consider and isn’t “noise.” I know too many friends from HS who ended up leaving the EC school they enrolled in to move back to California because the weather was affecting their mental health and academic performance. I wasn’t saying he had to pick a school based on weather, but suggesting that he make it something to consider – which I think is solid advice.</p>

<p>If it’s being “snotty” to replace inaccurate stereotypes with facts then I’m guilty. Claremont McKenna with 1,200 students is “very small”. Occidental College with 2,000 students is small, BC with 9,000 students is “town-sized” not a tiny East Coast enclave in the backwoods of Maine. </p>

<p>As for how many graduate students do or do not tromp main campus at any of these schools I really can’t say in any level of detail, can you? Have you been to the University of Michigan? Are you aware that the Schools of Engineering, Art and Music are located on a satellite campus 3 miles from main campus? Or that at NYU the lack of campus makes it feel like nearly every New Yorker is your classmate? Regardless, I see no point in arguing about how many grad students are on main campus on any given day. The fact is that with 16,500 undergrads USC is a medium to medium-large university; add in that many grad students doubtlessly do use the facilities of main campus (whether to study or act as TAs etc) and the size differences between these colleges shrinks to “noise” proportions.</p>

<p>As for the weather, yes Southern California is pleasant and warm but as someone who has lived in Vermont, Minnesota, Arizona, Florida and points in-between, I can tell you that people “up north” are capable of leading active fulfilling lives year-round. I’m also in no position to project seasonal affect disorder onto the OP, and I find it somewhat irresponsible for anyone else to do so either. Frankly, the attitude that California has the only acceptable climate strikes me as parochial and yes, “snotty”. It’s January not nuclear winter.</p>

<p>As I’ve stated all along, the OP should go to the school where he/she is going to be most comfortable. If that’s USC, great, he may find himself joined by my son. If it’s somewhere in the midwest or east ashrop should know that there are plenty of people who enjoy those experiences as well. Ashrop should go to the school that provides the best balance of academic and ancillary factors most important to him. He should make his decision based on facts not inaccurate representations of school size or near-apocalyptic descriptions of the weather.</p>

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<p>…HA. wow… that’s a first</p>