Top Undergraduate Business Programs in California

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BayAreaLivin, i dont know how u get ur info, prolly just search colleges websites. But ive heard from actual students at ucr business program is very good. and CSUN is one of the if not the best undergrad business program in CSU

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<p>I totally agree with bayarealivin. From what i have heard and from the students i have talked to...including officers from several business clubs from sjsu, they do very well with big 4 and many of the larger tech companies. Especially when viewing hiring stats for their Masters in Acct and Tax, nearly 3/4 of the class go to big 4 companies. HP and cisco visit the campus SEVERAL times a year along with others and they have access to these companies due to their proximity. For example adobe is located practically 300 ft away from the campus. I would consider fullerton the so cal equivalent to sjsu.</p>

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<p>Ive heard from people i know personally, Employers of PPG Industries, and other such Aerospace corporations, that the students they interview from CSUN compared to UC students are substantially smarter, and better fit in the corporate environment. The Gateway UnderGrad business program at CSUN is very good, and is located near LA, there is no better location than LA.</p>

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<p>Snake are you trying to say CSUN students are on average smarter than UC students? Open your eyes and your ears and stop the internet propaganda.</p>

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<p>lolololololl</p>

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<p>hah ur a dumbass. I never said that CSUN students are "smarter" than UC students, but i did say that about the BUSINESS students there. Hey TheMK99, you know there are people that go to CSU or even community college because they cant afford UCs, but they have been accepted to the best colleges in the US. I know people that go to my community college, people that got into UCB strait out of high school, and cant afford it. They still have lifelong admission there, but cant afford it. U ignorant peice of crap. Dont try to act smart when ur clueless. Dont think because a person goes to a UC they are better than anyone else. Damn ur stupidity angers me, you moron! half the jerkoffs in the UC system are going nowhere in life, and you try to argue they are "better" than others. How can u argue with me, when i have spoken to employers, and they told me that THE STUDENTS THEY INTERVIEWED FROM CSUN seem to know more and be generally more aware than others. Im not trying to argue that CSUN is the best school ever, im just saying dont think you need to get in to the top universities to be successful. I dont even go to CSUN, so i dont know why im continuing to argue this, maybe because I hate listening to retards like you talk as if you know things.</p>

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<p>And fullerton isnt close to los angeles and orange county. I guess long beach and SDSU must be out in the boonies as well. And SLO/SJSU are no where near a major industry hub.</p>

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<p>your a smartass, are you going to college?</p>

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<p>guys guys...it's just a forum...</p>

<p>Cal States actually tend to have pretty solid programs. I know CSULB has a solid AMA (marketing) and business program. I can tell from the students in the INROADS program that CSUN, USC, and UCLA all have pretty good business students. </p>

<p>Overall, business is just one of those concentrations where you can blaze your own trail. I went to UCI, where we have some business curriculum, but I found other means of getting my first job. Those in my company came from all types of universities, from Cal States to Ivys. Depending on what field you want to go into, it's very possible that what university you study at may not make a huge impact on where you end up. Your resources (ie. your network) is probably more valuable than what degree you've got on your wall.</p>

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hah ur a dumbass. I never said that CSUN students are "smarter" than UC students, but i did say that about the BUSINESS students there.

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<p>I would say UCB Haas students and UCLA Business Econ students on average are far smarter. However, this isn't a fair comparison since those student typically go after different jobs.</p>

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Hey TheMK99, you know there are people that go to CSU or even community college because they cant afford UCs, but they have been accepted to the best colleges in the US.

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<p>The overall cost of attendance of a CSU vs. UC isn't that significant. Most people's parents can't afford paying college outright anyways, it's what financial aid is for. Yes financial aid in the form of grants and subsized loans is not enough most of the time anyways thats why many people take out private loans. A good of friend of mine was raised by a single mother who made about 35k a year. He gotten into Berkeley as well, but choose to go to Princeton even if it meant taking 30k a year in private loans even with scholarships. He now works at Lazards at raked in 140k last year in salary + bonus. Moral of the story, if you can't afford it, it means you were averse to taking loans.</p>

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I know people that go to my community college, people that got into UCB strait out of high school, and cant afford it. They still have lifelong admission there, but cant afford it. U ignorant peice of crap. Dont try to act smart when ur clueless. Dont think because a person goes to a UC they are better than anyone else. Damn ur stupidity angers me, you moron! half the jerkoffs in the UC system are going nowhere in life, and you try to argue they are "better" than others.

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<li><p>If you were truly intelligent and wanted to go to a school of your choice, finding the money to go should be the least of your worries. Besides, UC Berkeley for its prestige vs. cost is excellent. </p></li>
<li><p>What constitutes going no where in life? I guess you could say that about Ivy League grads of so called "non technical, worthless majors" too couldn't you? So if half the UC kids are going nowhere, then what percentage of CSU kids, in your estimation, are going nowhere in comparison?</p></li>
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How can u argue with me, when i have spoken to employers, and they told me that THE STUDENTS THEY INTERVIEWED FROM CSUN seem to know more and be generally more aware than others. Im not trying to argue that CSUN is the best school ever, im just saying dont think you need to get in to the top universities to be successful. I dont even go to CSUN, so i dont know why im continuing to argue this, maybe because I hate listening to retards like you talk as if you know things.

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<p>What employers are you talking about McDonalds, Burger King, McKinsey, Google, etc? Also, UC are taught more on the theoretical side so an econ major may not be as knowledgable about transactions in accounting as a CSUN accounting major. Econ majors in the UC system teach more problem solving and are more quantitative but those skills are better suited for graduate programs.</p>

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<p>Snake, yes i do go to college....what is your point?</p>

<p>And there is a large difference between UC and CSU tuition, at least to me. 4k a year for tuition and other costs, and that number grows if a student is staying on campus (personal opinion)</p>

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<p>I assuming cost of living is essentially the same as with books and supplies. A 4k difference is no where near the price differential of a private school where 30k is the average tuition. Keep in mind, the average cost of a UC school is on par with other state's public school tuitions. The CSU system is just ridiculously cheap in comparison to most public school systems of other states. Overall, 4k spread over 4 years and with the rest of your life to work to pay it off is not that expensive. It amazes me that people with modest incomes in southern CA with non career jobs (waitressing, security guards, etc) can take out massive loans to pay for a 30k lifted truck which depreciates by 10% the minute they drive it off the lot but sit and talk to me how an education is expensive and isn't that valuable.</p>

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<p>"1. If you were truly intelligent and wanted to go to a school of your choice, finding the money to go should be the least of your worries. Besides, UC Berkeley for its prestige vs. cost is excellent."</p>

<p>Easier said than done NextMike. I'd like to know the socioeconomic background you came from to be able to make such a claim or what type of parental support you got in high school and the financial support you got from them thereafter. </p>

<p>I point this out because some students come from families where parents don't stress or even discourage a college education and don't support their children at all financially for college. Those are key factors that many tend to ignore on this board as so many members here don't have to worry about such obstacles. There are many "truly intelligent" people, as you say, who don't make the grade in high school largely because of these obstacles. To refer to those who get top grades (as those would be the ones who have their choice of schools) as the "truly intelligent" is just plain foolish. Anybody who studies their ass off can get top grades. Studying your ass off doesn't make you intelligent. Intelligence is inborn. </p>

<p>"The overall cost of attendance of a CSU vs. UC isn't that significant. Most people's parents can't afford paying college outright anyways, it's what financial aid is for." </p>

<p>It is significant if you're talking about students who can't afford to pay for housing and must work locally and stay at home with their parents. How many UC's are there compared to CSU's? Many would have to go some distance to attend a UC wheras there are far more CSU's to choose from to eliminate the cost of having to leave home. </p>

<p>The CSU helps give people in these circumstances access to higher education that they otherwise would not have access to. With that said, is there higher percentage of dimwits in the CSU's? Most certainly, I'm not arguing that point one bit. And there certainly are a much higher percentage of intelligent people that go UC's. But let's not generalize so much that we start painting states blue and red as well.</p>

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<p>truman94 is right. Im not gonna check but whoever said or believes the difference in cost between CSU and UC is not significant, go kill urself right now. I was just talking to my friend who goes to CSUN, her tuition is $1500 a semester. HA! as opposed to $25000 at UC. NextMikeSays your so ignorant if you think just anyone can get a scholarship or grant! Its so competative now a days its actually pretty hard to get a scholarship. And as for FASFA student aid crap. You have to be homeless to be approved for that. Many students arent willing to spend 45 years to pay back a student loan. Truman94 is also right when he said anyone can study and get good grades. Grades are not a measure of intelligence but a measure to dedication. NextMike go read a book and get more well informed, then come back to this forum.</p>

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Easier said than done NextMike. I'd like to know the socioeconomic background you came from to be able to make such a claim or what type of parental support you got in high school and the financial support you got from them thereafter.

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<p>Predominately a middle class area, however, 2 of my best friends went to top schools (UC Berkeley Haas and Princeton) despite being the first in their family to go to college and were certainly on the low end of income for those that lived within our community(< 35k households for single mother and 45k for mom + step father). Both work for bulge bracket investment banking firms and both are bright but I wouldn't say brilliant. Mostly, they naturally had overachiever mentalities and ridiculous work ethics that led to 3.9+ GPA's in competitive programs. </p>

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It is significant if you're talking about students who can't afford to pay for housing and must work locally and stay at home with their parents. How many UC's are there compared to CSU's? Many would have to go some distance to attend a UC wheras there are far more CSU's to choose from to eliminate the cost of having to leave home.

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<p>Personally, I view that as a choice. I must admit that it is a factor, but, if you are that extremely destitute you will get financial aid that covers all of those expenses even at the UC level. I have known many students including a good friend of mine who's financial aid covered him for all the cost of tuition + living expenses despite being non merit but based solely on financial needs. Back to my point, if you wanted to go to a UC or even a private school you can always take loans. It's a matter of whether you want to take on that debt or not.</p>

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<p>Snake805, I get my info from current and past UCR AND SJSU students. i also get my info off of this forum. seems like compared to SJSU, the job opportunities at SJSU seem much more vast. my sister goes to SJSU and i'm amazed at how many job offers she got and how many job offerings are available. damn near every big company you can think of is hiring for their SJ branch. i'm not sure i can say the same for UCR.</p>

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I was just talking to my friend who goes to CSUN, her tuition is $1500 a semester. HA! as opposed to $25000 at UC

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<p>There is NO UC that cost $25,000 in tuition unless you are an out of state student, and even that is pretty high. Get your facts straight before you spew BS.</p>

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NextMikeSays your so ignorant if you think just anyone can get a scholarship or grant!

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<p>Cal Grants, Pell Grants are from the US government and are completely NEED BASED on your financial situation. Yes EVERYONE CAN GET THEM. No, you do not need to be homeless to get both of those grants + stafford loans. Most middle class students receive one or the other and in some cases both grants.</p>

<p>But, that is not the point I was making. I stated that you can always take student loans which anyone can get easily.</p>

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Many students arent willing to spend 45 years to pay back a student loan.

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If you are paying a dollar a month and are in a very low paying field then yes. Medical students typically are in about 200k in debt and many top business schools cost over 120k to attend for 2 years. Most, and I mean 90%+ do not have the funds to pay for it upfront but many of them are doing quite well after 5 years. </p>

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Truman94 is also right when he said anyone can study and get good grades. Grades are not a measure of intelligence but a measure to dedication. NextMike go read a book and get more well informed, then come back to this forum.

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<p>Good grades can come from multiple reasons. I didn't spend very much time in HS and was able to get over a 4.2 GPA. My sister probably with 3 times the work ethic has a 3.8-3.9 but spent significantly more time on school work than I ever did in HS. To say good grades come completely from dedication and not factoring in "talent" is not completely true.</p>

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<p>UC Berkeley Tuition per semester education fee: $2,703.00 aka $5406/ year</p>

<p>Total UCB fees (University Registration Fee+ Educational Fee+ Berkeley Campus Fee+ Class Pass Fee - Transit + Health Insurance Fee)= $7800/year</p>

<p><a href="http://registrar.berkeley.edu/Registration/feesched.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://registrar.berkeley.edu/Registration/feesched.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Cal Poly Slo per year educational fees: $4,350
<a href="http://www.ess.calpoly.edu/finaid/NewFinAid/Cost.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ess.calpoly.edu/finaid/NewFinAid/Cost.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>ya i messed up I was looking at out of state costs, but i am still right non the less, 1500 as opposed to 8000 not 5000, iono where you look. Anyway im done arguing with you, your damn posts are like mini essays i dont wanna read taht bs anymore</p>

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<p>Mini essays? I guess thats what a few sentences are to you. Paragraphs must be a b*tch right?</p>

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<p>"To say good grades come completely from dedication and not factoring in "talent" is not completely true."</p>

<p>I agree Nextmike. ANYBODY not EVERYBODY who is dedicated CAN get top grades. I know quite a few 3.8 - 4.0 students who are absolute dolts, although most 3.8 - 4.0 students are indeed intelligent. </p>

<p>"2 of my best friends went to top schools (UC Berkeley Haas and Princeton) despite being the first in their family to go to college and were certainly on the low end of income for those that lived within our community(< 35k households for single mother and 45k for mom + step father). Both work for bulge bracket investment banking firms and both are bright but I wouldn't say brilliant. Mostly, they naturally had overachiever mentalities and ridiculous work ethics that led to 3.9+ GPA's in competitive programs"</p>

<p>I don't doubt the achievement of your friends. However, they are the overwhelming exception and not the rule. Socioeconomic conditions correlate very closely with educational achievement. Nobody can refute that. Numbers don’t lie. Again, I refer to parents who don’t stress education to their children, a predominant trait among lower socioeconomic classes, for whatever reason, economic, cultural etc. I believe that is the number one factor in determining the educational achievement of children, more than economic reasons. </p>

<p>“Back to my point, if you wanted to go to a UC or even a private school you can always take loans. It's a matter of whether you want to take on that debt or not.”</p>

<p>You’re over-generalizing again. Your assumption is based upon the fact that a student CAN leave their home(referring back to the issue of CSU's being convenient). Try to open your mind or even your eyes and just look all around you. For economic and even cultural reasons, some people just cannot leave their homes. Some have to help support their families while some cultures have parents who frown upon children who leave home unmarried. This is the USA, a melting pot, a salad bowl, whatever you want to call it, with so much variation in it, with California definitely leading the way. Again, to over-generalize in this case as you have and as so many others on this board continually do is simply not thinking wisely.</p>