<p>hello, I’m a male sophomore, running track and cross country, and i am hoping to be recruited to run at either Dartmouth, Brown, or Yale. here’s my general profile:
-4.0GPA going into junior year (took all honors courses fresh/soph years)
-in my highschool’s highest band
-will be taking pre-calc and 3APs junior year(bio,eng,u.s.hist) and multiple APs senior year
-my grandfather attended Dartmouth (will this help in overall admissions to dartmouth?)
My strongest track events are the 1600m-4:38, and 800m-2:03. im hoping to greatly improve these times next year! any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
(as for cross country, i was injured sophomore year, so i will see how i do junior year) my last 5k was 17:40.</p>
<p>Have you talked to any of the coaches? The times mean nothing to me, since I’m not a runner.</p>
<p>i have not made contact with any of the coaches yet. i’m planning on contacting in the middle of my junior year if things go well.</p>
<p>The times are pretty good. They won’t get you recruited as is, but you have potential for sure. Dropping twenty seconds or so in the 1600 will put you in the ballpark. I’m more of an xc guy myself, and not a super great one at that, so I haven’t checked any of the schools times. Look at their roster and past meets, and aim for those times or faster. I bet you could do it.</p>
<p>Brown’s top 5 runners in the mile event tend to be in the 4:09-4:15 range. For cross country, events seem to be 5 miles and the runners keep paces of around 5:00-5:30 per mile. Yale and Dartmouth run XC better than Brown, so their times are better. So as MotherNerd said, 20-25 seconds from your 1600 would but you right around that range, though I don’t know how many they recruit.</p>
<p>thank you! this is very helpful. any other advice or knowledge about recruitment/times/individual schools would be greatly appreciated!(it looks like i may have a good chance with brown-hopefully!) but i really like yale and dartmouth.</p>
<p>The grandfather thing will help a tiny bit, but not nearly as much as your track skills would.</p>
<p>are athletes really that valuable? would being recruited really help in admissions?</p>
<p>Being recruited essentially guarantees admission.</p>
<p>Only IF your grades and test scores are within their recruiting band. Call the coaches and get on their radar screen, keep them updated on your performance and improved times, awards, wins, etc.</p>
<p>are any of the ivy leagues “harder to be recruited for”? it seems brown will accept slightly slower times. and what would acceptable academic stats be? 2000 or up on SAT/close to 4.0 GPA?</p>
<p>Call the coaches at the colleges you are interested in attending. I had a 4.4, a 2140 on my SAT’s and 4’s and 5’s on all of my AP tests. I found it easier to be recruited at Princeton and Dartmouth than Brown because they were in need of my position for my sport. Harvard had that position locked down and I wasn’t interested in attending the other Ivy’s. Hope that helps.</p>
<p>you advise contacting them as early as summer going into junior year? what school did you end up going to?</p>
<p>Without a doubt. I was being recruited for two sports and started contacting coaches my sophomore year. A lot of kids start too late and positions are already taken. Either it works out or it doesn’t, but if you are a quality athlete they always want to hear from you.</p>
<p>ok thanks, any additional advice or knowledge is appreciated.</p>
<p>Brown was my first choice, Princeton second, Dartmouth third. When I received the offer from Brown [in the summer prior to my senior year] I took it. Spread a wide net and talk to a lot of schools. It is a numbers game. Make sure they are schools that you truly want to attend regardless of sports. Remember you are one injury away from being done so make sure you love the school you attend. At least that is the way I looked at it. Call the coaches and send an email with your resume giving academic and athletic stats and coaches contact info. As those stats change update the coaches. Don’t bug them, but there are thousands of kids interested in the spots available so definitely update any improved times, etc. Does your HS coach have any knowledge on the workings of Ivy sports? It is a bit different than other DI sports with the Academic Index etc. Research it. Does your sport have summer camps you can attend? If so, do it. My HS coaches told me that summer camps were a waste of time and money. In reality, I was recruited for both of my sports from those camps. Maybe you can time it with college visits? Also, I would suggest asking your coach to call on your behalf [maybe more middle junior year, post season timeline?] All of this worked pretty well for me.</p>
<p>i will be visiting yale and brown in August, so should i plan on meeting with the coaches? though my running times are not where they need to be yet… and if i send an academic resume, it wouldnt have the SAT, is that ok? are my academic stats looking ok? they are at the beginning of the thread. thanks for the help!</p>
<p>There’s an athletic recruit thread, if you want to check that out… </p>
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<p>Hi teddy23,</p>
<p>I was recruited to run track and xc at an ivy this coming fall. You should definitely start emailing coaches this summer with your times and your current training. Most likely they will respond with a pretty generic email indicating the preferred times of the recruits. In most cases you should aim for a 4:18 1600m, 15:40 5k xc, 1:56 800m, and a 9:20 3200m. I don’t know if your school has a winter track program, if so you can aim to hit these times by around February. Also remember to update coaches after every race even if they’re not the best times. It’s important to show a lot of enthusiasm.</p>
<p>good luck</p>
<p>thanks! what were your times (that got you recruited). my times are at the beginning of the thread… do they look okay for sophomore year times? i have been training pretty lightly (when it comes to mileage) up until now, so do you think i can improve with increased training? any other feedback or advice on the recruiting process would be much appreciated!
thanks</p>