Transfer student stigma

<p>I was legitimately telling my transfer friend I wish I had transferred..would have saved a ton of money, and gotten a higher GPA for law school. Plus he said something like the professors are a lot better at JCs than at Berkeley. Plus, the transfers who make it to Berkeley are usually the best students from the JC, and thus can get professor rec letters maybe? Whereas at Berkeley, the majority of the professors suck; they don't care about their students; and the students are basically anonymous. Maybe I should have gone to a LAC haha.</p>

<p>^You can always transfer? I don't know what grade you are though...</p>

<p>I'm going to be a third year...so I think it's too late. Plus I doubt my dad would let me transfer. Despite all this b*tching, it's alright... The History department (Liberal arts in general) is great, while the Econ department is lacking. So I get a bit of both sides of the spectrum.</p>

<p>^ahhh I see, yeah I hear the history department is awesome.</p>

<p>Haven't you made a lot of friends at Cal though NeedAdvice?</p>

<p>Yeah, the History department kicks a**. I've only had one bad professor, and she was visiting. As much as people mock the "easiness" of liberal arts, the professors are unbeatable by the science departments' professors. They actually know how to teach.</p>

<p>Tiberius...yeah, but friends are replaceable. haha, sad, but true. I've gone to probably 9 schools in my life.... (It's sad because while romantic relationships aren't replaceble, friends are. For example, my boyfriend is back home, outside of California and we've been in a long-distance thing for 2 years.)</p>

<p>^Holy *<strong><em>, that's amazing. The long-distance relationship part. But holy *</em></strong> for the history department as well. My friend was telling me about how we stole one of Yale's professors (Norena) haha. take that HYPS!</p>

<p>haha, Actually, practically all the professors in the History Department graduated from HYPS...and many taught at their universities for awhile before coming to Berkeley. The visiting one was from Oxford actually...</p>

<p>but yeah, the whole long distance thing has helped the relationship...distance= relationship's success ;)</p>

<p>I'm going to bed though, so g'night Cardinal...</p>

<p>Tiberius- I got really lucky and my randomly assigned roommate was an amazing person. We were pretty much immediately best friends, and I got to know some of her friends from the previous year (she was a second year). Plus I met some other girls on my hall during the first semester. Second semester, though, I joined a sorority. Its actually funny, because I'm about the least sorority-ish person ever, but it was a really good way to meet people. Now I have a group of friends from outside the sorority and a really close group of girls I love within it. I also met like one or two people a semester through classes, but thats definitely not the way to go at Cal. </p>

<p>And Ive been thinking about the original question some more. I'm not going to say that there's NO prejudice against transfers. I've definitely gotten some weird looks before. But I've also gotten those about my major (American Studies) and I genuinely dont care. Transferring was the right decision for me, not because I wasnt smart enough, but because I wasnt ready to leave home. I love my major and I wouldnt trade it for anything. I say as long as youre happy with your path, who cares what other people think. You'll do just fine and prove them wrong, and thats what matters.</p>

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Whereas at Berkeley, the majority of the professors suck; they don't care about their students;

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<p>Objection.</p>

<p>Anyway, I think CardinalFocused is justified in saying there is often stuff on the board that is negative and about transfers students only, especially from that lovely fountain of truth, CollegeSenior-->LiberalCensors-->etc.-->currently ShiboingBoing.</p>

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Objection.

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<p>Well, the majority of non-liberal arts, non-certain-social-science professors do indeed suck at teaching. </p>

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Anyway, I think CardinalFocused is justified in saying there is often stuff on the board that is negative and about transfers students only, especially from that lovely fountain of truth, CollegeSenior-->LiberalCensors-->etc.-->currently ShiboingBoing.

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<p>haha, I like how everyone knows who he is despite the new names. Was he banned twice?</p>

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Well, the majority of non-liberal arts, non-certain-social-science professors do indeed suck at teaching.

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<p>I've had:</p>

<p>Math:
Zworski
Ogus</p>

<p>EECS:
Varaiya
Chang-Hasnain
Garcia
Fateman
Gastpar
Subramanian
Vazirani
Nikolic
Hu</p>

<p>Physics:
Crommie
Yu</p>

<p>Music:
Person that taught Music 26AC Fall 2005 (I can't even remember her name now)</p>

<p>Of the non-music (i.e. non-liberal arts, non-social-sciences) professors I've had, one was bad, 2 were okay, the rest were good or better.</p>

<p>Of the music professors I've had, one was bad. Obviously my music sample size is bad, but nonetheless I'd say my non-liberal arts, non-social-science sample is relatively good. I wouldn't say it's a fluke that I've had that many professors I consider good.</p>

<p>I'm unclear as to what your pesentation indicates, but explicitly, physics and math are in the liberal arts.</p>

<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberal%20arts%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberal%20arts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Excuse me.</p>

<p>Of the non-music, non-math, non-physics (i.e. non-liberal arts, non-social-sciences) professors I've had, one was bad, 1 was okay, the rest were good or better. So 8/9 were okay or better. Most EECS people think most of our professors are good at teaching, too:</p>

<p><a href="http://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/student/CourseSurvey/instructors/CS/Professor/?recent=1%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/student/CourseSurvey/instructors/CS/Professor/?recent=1&lt;/a>
<a href="http://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/student/CourseSurvey/instructors/EE/Professor/?recent=1%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/student/CourseSurvey/instructors/EE/Professor/?recent=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>