<p>How hard is it to transfer to Cornell? Does the college an applicant wants to transfer from matter? Does it matter if an applicant transfers from Rutgers or NYU. Who has a better chance? Same chances?</p>
<p>Cornell is known as a really transfer friendly school. I'm currently awaiting my transfer decision. That being said, it's still an ivy league school, and is not easy to get into. I think the school being transferred from matters. NYU would probably be better than Rutgers, but if you have a good reason for wanting to transfer, that would probably be better.</p>
<p>Actually, I disagree. Rutgers is just as good as NYU - they raised there admissions standards this year (I know kids from NJ who didn't get in with 1400 old sat conversions) and they are starting a plan to be an Ivy in the next 10 years. So I don't think applying from either of those schools will make a difference- it'll come down to grades and EC's</p>
<p>I'd say a 3.8 from NYU holds more weight than a 3.8 from Rutgers. That's not to say Rutgers isnt' a good school, but NYU is a much more selective school (already plenty of people rejected with over 1400's on the old SAT to begin with) with some very highly ranked programs. </p>
<p>Starting a plan to be an ivy? Come on now.</p>
<p>Tons of schools say they plan to be an ivy, it's a statement that should be taken with a grain of salt. University of Richmond also is trying to do this, even though it can't compare</p>
<p>NYU > Rutgers. Rutgers is not an ivy, never has been an ivy, and never will be an ivy. It will always be a state school with that level of education. But that also gives someone a good reason to transfer out, so in that sense, the schools are around the same level.</p>
<p>A school can't turn into an Ivy.</p>
<p>Actually they can. Rutgers is the LAST school that has the OPTION to apply for Ivy status. Do a little research before making remarks like that. Based on their founding, and other factors they CAN apply to be an ivy once they unify the campuses and stop recieving state funding. U. of Richmond however, cannot.</p>
<p>And qwpoeriuty, rutgers was part of the ivy community, before it became formal.</p>
<p>i'm sure it's the same with all of the US service academies and schools like Colgate, the "9th ivy."</p>
<p>I can't imagine what Rutgers would have to do to be in a league with Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Cornell, Columbia, etc.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ivyleaguesports.com%5B/url%5D">www.ivyleaguesports.com</a></p>
<p>This is my understanding of Ivy. emilycm, could you possibly provide some links with that information? I'd like to learn more about it.</p>
<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/archive/index.php/t-158909-p-3.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/archive/index.php/t-158909-p-3.html</a>
here's an p;e thread on the joining the ivy league status</p>
<p>Why are people so wound up about the "Ivy League?" For God's sake it's an athletic conference, and its only academic aspect is that students sometimes get together from Cornell, Dartmouth, Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Penn, and Brown. But I guess if it's all about getting your little gold star, Oxford, Cambridge, London School of Economics, Trinity College in Dublin, University of Tokyo, etc. ought to apply for "Ivy" status, too, since that what clearly defines whether a school is good or not.</p>
<p>For some students, engrained often with generations of snobbery, tradition is more important than academia. For those in the US, Ivy League (including Brown and others that have slipped since those starting days) is the target.</p>
<p>In the UK, the same applied to Oxbridge, even though in some subjects these two heavyweights have been overtaken.</p>
<p>To the academic there are two new standards:</p>
<p>HYPSM in the US (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT) and even that sells many good colleges short, though its clearly an academic assessment which is a start.</p>
<p>In the UK, its the Golden Triangle: (Oxford, Cambridge on two points of the triangle, and the two specialist colleges LSE and Imperial on the third point), and again this sells many good universities short, and completely ignores such schools as the London Business School which carries one of the best MBA's in the world.</p>
<p>Further afield, many Canadian/Australian/Asian colleges perform very well, as do certain French/German/Swiss colleges.</p>
<p>Unfortunately history and tradition carry with them more power and influence than academia and while the words HYPSM and Golden Triangle (or even Russel Group) continue to grow in usage, Ivy League and Oxbridge will stand for a little while longer no doubt.</p>
<p>Rutgers cannot "choose" or "plan" to be an Ivy and has no opportunity to do so. No school can, whether it's New Jersey State University or a fine private school like Amherst. And as said, it's simply an athletic conference of excellent schools with distinct strengths.</p>
<p>This is nonsense. The ivy league is very satisfied with things the way they are. 8 is a perfect number.
Joining the Ivy league won't make a safety school magically attractive all of a sudden.</p>
<p>Oh please. To the average American, ivy league will always be ivy league. It's synonymous with the highest standards in education and success... even if there are other schools that are just as good or even better. There is no point arguing against what is colloquialism (can't think of a better word), I think</p>
<p>Thank you redcrimblue that's what I was trying to articulate.</p>
<p>Yes Ivy league is synonymous with the best in educational success. And if you go to the average European and ask them if Dartmouth or Northwestern are Ivy league the majority say no way, and many would be surprised that Brown, Cornell and UPenn are too.</p>
<p>The only obvious and genuinely globally well known members who wear the "educational" tag of ivy league are Harvard, Yale, and Princeton.</p>
<p>And if you ask an average European if MIT or Stanford are "ivy league", many would say yes.</p>
<p>The tag exists, and definitely represents educational excellence, though many misapply it on the basis of the true knowledge which places HYPSM at the top.</p>
<p>wow...rutgers cannot apply for ivy status...not possible...then they could no longer give athletic scholarships and such..remember it is an athletic league..YOU do your research before you make remarks like that.</p>