Trigger Warnings, Safe Spaces and Free Speech, Too (letter from Chicago student to NYT)

I actually agree that EC shouldn’t have sent the letter, in that even if you thought the original e-mail was slightly eye-roll worthy - as I might well have, had it been sent to me – a request for more care in choosing costumes seems to me tame enough not to require a lengthy dissent, no matter how thoughtful. I think the fact that EC responded with that e-mail is suggestive of an agenda (one I happen to agree with in general, by the way), and that a student who might well not have objected to EC expressing this opinion in a spontaneous discussion might nonetheless be legitimately annoyed that she was prioritizing her opposition to what is at worst slightly overblown but well-intentioned paternalism over concern for student feelings to the extent of framing a response in her capacity as dean.

However, it is absurd to call her letter racist, and I do feel comfortable criticizing students for a wildly disproportionate response. Who am I to say? Well, who is anybody to say anything, after all? As a reasonable, intelligent person capable of weighing two sides of an argument, the best I can do is listen and then call it like I see it. The fact that a student of color might have more invested in this dispute does not automatically make his or her opinion more valid than mine, or than EC’s. By no conventional definition of the word is Erica Christiakis’s nuanced expression of her personal opinion on the pertinent issue of how to respond to potentially offensive content “racist” behavior. At the very worst, it might be racially insensitive, although I don’t think it is that either.

But beyond this endless rehashing of the Yale incident, I do think a problem we’re seeing in this thread and in the response to the Chicago letter more generally is disagreement over what constitutes a “safe space.” I don’t actually think most people on the Christiakis/Chicago side of the debate would object to the notion that individual groups within a university might create their own parameters for discourse, whether or not we formally call that a “safe space.” The most obvious example of this is a support group – I don’t think you’d find many people who would say that someone should be allowed to come to a rape survivor’s support group and start discussing their opinion that that men were being railroaded by college tribunals, no matter how nuanced their position on the matter was. Even in the case of cultural or religious affinity groups, it seems to me uncontroversial that certain shared assumptions wouldn’t and shouldn’t have to be up for debate.

But student activists are being, I think, disingenuous in claiming that’s all they mean by “safe space.” A dorm or residential community, for instance, is not a “safe space” in the way that Yale students seem to be asking for. Certainly, you shouldn’t face violence or physical or emotional harassment in a dorm. If you tell a roommate or another peer that you don’t want to talk about a particular subject, he or she should be expected to respect that. But given that a dorm will contain a variety of students from a variety of backgrounds, it is not reasonable to expect not to be confronted, in that space, with ideas that might even be deeply offensive.

“You only got into this college because you are black” is a racist and inappropriate comment. “I don’t agree with affirmative action,” in the context of a discussion about racial preferences in admissions, might be a legitimately upsetting statement, to a minority student, but it is fair game, even if it happens over the dinner table and not in a classroom.

Certain (although not all) of the student protests over speakers also seem to assume that the campus as a whole should be a “safe space,” or at least a space where quite a few ideas that lie well within the mainstream of contemporary discourse shouldn’t be discussed.

The nerve of her! Clearly, responding to protesters is more important than her teaching a class. No students goes to Yale to learn in classrooms. They already know everything.

"However, it is absurd to call her letter racist, and I do feel comfortable criticizing students for a wildly disproportionate response. Who am I to say? Well, who is anybody to say anything, after all? As a reasonable, intelligent person capable of weighing two sides of an argument, the best I can do is listen and then call it like I see it. The fact that a student of color might have more invested in this dispute does not automatically make his or her opinion more valid than mine, or than EC’s. By no conventional definition of the word is Erica Christiakis’s nuanced expression of her personal opinion on the pertinent issue of how to respond to potentially offensive content “racist” behavior. "

Thank you for this articulation. It is one thing to disagree with EC; it is completely ludicrous to say it was a racist email. And no, I’m not going to respect the judgment of people who look at that email, read the very same words I am reading and declare it racist.

Re post 98. This is another example of ridiculousness. As much as I personally despise Trump and hope like heck he is not the next POTUS, this is America, and people have the freedom to wear pro-Trump hats or t-shirts if they like. Don’t they get how frightening it is for “authority” to dictate expression? Have they not read any history books?

Agree the letter was not racist. I agree with some of the points that were made. I am not sure it was necessary for the university to send the original letter. I think there is a big difference between affinity groups and the concept of safe spaces.

At midnight? The letter was sent after midnight on Halloween eve addressing Halloween costumes… Do you, in free and open society, send out a notice in the middle of the night with only hours to spare?

Nice post @apprenticeprof . The irony is that those who want to have the whole university be a safe space are trying to prohibit affinity groups that they don’t like from being able to invite their own speakers.

They have read history books. They know precisely what they are doing and what the ultimate outcome is. What you see as a cautionary tale, they see as a playbook.

It’s not a bug; it’s a feature.

Who wants to have the whole university be a safe place?

*And to turn your last question around, why shouldn’t the students listen to the professor? If one thing is clear from these videos and the several other incidents, it is that the protesting students seem completely uninterested in any perspective but their own. *

I agree that yelling tends to shut down discourse. It seems to me that sarcasm and ridicule and name calling also shut down discourse.

*I think the article makes some good points on the debate here, namely the difference in how safe spaces are perceived and whether the more expansive definition on display in the Yale case is supportive of marginalized students or anti intellectual. Anyone have thoughts on that? *

For me, as part of the majority mainstream, trying to understand the perspective of marginalized populations has been one of the greatest intellectual challenges of my life.

I didn’t see the Times last Sun, so your link was useful in directing me to this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/04/opinion/sunday/political-correctness-and-its-real-enemies.html?_r=0

I’m not quoting. It’s a different perspective from your article, for those interested in another perspective.

Me… I’ve appointed myself to the position. It was a unanimous amongst all those polled. :))

@alh, yes the article linked is the opinion piece referenced in the Reason article I initially linked to. And forgive me, but who is it you are accusing of sarcasm, ridicule and name calling? Did you see some evidence of such induct by the professor in the videos shot at Yale, Dartmouth or any of the others?

The last 3 seconds of that video are hilarious – after the student in the plaid shirt steals the hat, he and the girl actually begin to argue over who gets to keep the “offensive” hat. He’s not giving it up and says “I’m keeping it.”

MRU is a university in Calgary, Canada.

Has this thread left US schools?

Are Americans supposed to tell Canadians what to do?

The political commentary is a clear violation of the Terms of Service. Knock it off or this thread is closed.

However, it is absurd to call her letter racist, and I do feel comfortable criticizing students for a wildly disproportionate response. Who am I to say? Well, who is anybody to say anything, after all? As a reasonable, intelligent person capable of weighing two sides of an argument, the best I can do is listen and then call it like I see it. The fact that a student of color might have more invested in this dispute does not automatically make his or her opinion more valid than mine, or than EC’s. By no conventional definition of the word is Erica Christiakis’s nuanced expression of her personal opinion on the pertinent issue of how to respond to potentially offensive content “racist” behavior. At the very worst, it might be racially insensitive, although I don’t think it is that either.

apprenticeprof’s, post #100 reminded me of this article I bookmarked a while back for myself. It’s not an easy read, at least for me, but for those interested in exploring the idea a bit, perhaps it might be of interest. I keep reading it over and trying to understand all her points so I can decide whether I agree or disagree:

http://www.alcoff.com/content/speaothers.html

I would certainly be very interested in the responses of others, if anyone reads it. Thanks in advance.

Honestly? That article may have one or two points that are worth considering, but it’s buried in such mumbo-jumbo that I can’t possibly get through it. It’s word salad. Take one heaping of discursive coercion, add in epistemical significance, toss in the heteronormative patriarchy, make up the new word “dis-authorize” (when deauthorize worked just fine), shake on a few sprinkles of privilege-checking, and top with hearty handfuls of oppression.

No one can possibly say anything to anybody without oppressing them. People aren’t individual people who speak for themselves and whose ideas rise and fall on their own merits; they are merely representations of their gender, ethnicity, socioeconomic status, etc. Ironically, it’s the worst kind of stereotyping around.

@alh, that essay is a very tough read. I skipped some of it.

Yes, we weigh what somebody says differently depending on that person’s race, sex, culture, name, hierarchy, etc.

For example…

There have been blind studies done where people will grade papers without knowing who the paper is written by and compare this to grades when the grader does know the sex or name of the writer. The grades are different when the sex, or name is known.

From the essay…

http://www.alcoff.com/content/speaothers.html

Obviously…the above is true.

@alh, I understand your point regarding racism.

PG: Perhaps I’m completely misreading it, which wouldn’t be surprising, but one reason I bookmarked it was because it seemed to me she was at least partially agreeing, at some points, with some of your ideas expressed in posts on recent threads. I don’t think she is saying what you write in your second paragraph. I thought she was challenging that idea and asking us to rethink it. That is what I found interesting. fwiw.

eta: Thanks for reading my link, dstark :slight_smile:

It’s very possible I am just not bright enough to follow it all.

^^nope. I don’t believe that one bit. You may not be interested or think it is worth your while, but that is very different.

I’ve been looking at it off and on for several weeks, maybe a month. If you have time, or more importantly, any interest, to consider it, please let me know what you think. I think it relates back to lots of recent threads. But it may not be worth the investment of time for others. I’m just hanging around without a whole lot to do and I’m bored with my regular news sites.