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<p>Oh, yeah. The little stars are pea eye ess ess. The word is French, not vulgar.</p>

<p>well said SM. I liked his statement "and by the way do you know that as education levels have increased, levels of church and temple going and moque going etc have decreased so has the level of church going and conservatism, why do you think that?"</p>

<p>lmfao! Because our generation is quite generally pathetic. And that's all I will say. No more energy spent on this little butt :)</p>

<p>WPW, you crack me up. </p>

<p>Re-reading my last.....the French can be pretty vulgar. But that's another topic and don't get me started! My husband bought me a cool coffee mug with the red circle/slash around the picture of a frog.</p>

<p>Hahaha!!! I like it. </p>

<p>As for my comment, really my generation is pathetic. You look at us and as a whole we are a bunch of sniveling, whiny kids who sit behind a computer screen or in front of a television all day long, never get outside, and who are taught by society (and sometimes our parents, though this is more of a current thing) that we do not have to solve our own problems, that they will be taken care of by our parents, the government, etc. There has been a whole generation created without the ability to problem solve. I know that is a HUGE generalization, but as a member of this age group I see this every day. Teens especially are becoming too dependent on handouts from everybody else. We need to learn that in the real world sometimes you have to reach out and take things as they come, and sometimes you search and search and never get what you need. That's the reality, and in the real world you won't be able to ask mommy and daddy to bail you out.</p>

<p>BTW, sorry bout the little rant, I just get sick of the age I live in sometimes. Let's get back to the 1940s when people still had some civility, but more importantly felt a national pride in themselves and the men in uniform. I wish I could have lived in those days, or at least be able to visit. But alas, there is no time machine yet :)</p>

<p>Amen to that. I'm a teacher and I deal with it every day. Even the Smallwood book about the Naval Academy addresses the problem of "spoonfed cripples". I'll spare y'all the long, boring diatribe but school really needs to change. We've got to be focusing on communication, collaboration, and critical thinking. Knowing how to learn is more important than memorizing random factoids and spitting them back. Locating, evaluating, and using information to solve a problem....that's where it's at. Communicating it out effectively audience is impt, too. /diatribe</p>

<p>In response to fiterace87's comment, which although thought out, not very intelligent.</p>

<p>Your friend at the OAS remarked "How many democratic countries have declared war on the U.S. in the last 150 years?".</p>

<p>That argument is part of a neoconservative moment, which is too simple and flawed. Iraq never declared war on America, it was the other way around. And in the last 50 years, the only country to attack America on American soil was Japan. Every other war was started by America. America invaded Korea, Vietnam, etc. The reason that most of America's wars were with non-democracies is because America chose to invade them, you people act as if America gets provoked into fighting wars as if it America is some small country with no power. No , America is a superpower. America starts with others because it has the most power.</p>

<p>2nd point. "we went to Iraq because it is such an important country in the Middle East, and by establishing a democracy there, the prospect of democratic peace in the Middle East could be a reality if the other neighboring countries decided to play along". How about some political realism here. The only reason America cares about what goes on there is because of its oil, it doesn't care if other countries are fascist or communist or dictatorial as long is it gets cheap resources. America has never productively tried to seek democracy in the Middle East. If it does, why did they overthrow Mossadegh and install the Shah (King) in 1953. Why does America support Saudi Arabia, a country whose government is more religious and theocratic than even the Taliban? Why did JFK and the CIA assasinate the democratically elected President of South Vietnam in 1962. The reason why American wars in the last 20 years have been "in and around the Middle East" is beacause they want their stinken oil. Don't kid yourself about democracy. If they cared, why did they support the Saudis or the Shah or kill the president of S. Vietnam.</p>

<p>3rd point. The WMD Argument. Russian and Americans never had a real balance of power. How many proxy wars were fought between USSR and America during the Cold War, and how many people did it kill? Have you heard of the Khmer Rouge? or the Contra? This isn't a nice balance there.</p>

<p>4th point. About protecting Israel, didnt't Geroge Washington say to avoid "entangling alliances" . From an economical and military aspect America has no benefit to protect Israel. Israel is culturally different from America and has no resources that are neccesary for America. Israel is a religious socialist society, while America is a secular democracy. Completely opposite.</p>

<p>5th point: wpwanna 's nostalgia "Let's get back to the 1940s when people still had some civility, but more importantly felt a national pride in themselves and the men in uniform" Those were great times. There were those internment camps run by the military against Japaneese-Americans. Jim Crow Laws in the South that the government turned a blind eye to, and oh i forgot to mention the fire-bombing of Dresden. If you thought those were great times you are a die-hard Klan member, which sounds right. If anyone disrespects the military its you. You sent them into harm's ways, and as my previous comments have shown, it was a war doomed to fail.</p>

<p>P.S. You guys all know if this threa was brought to the CC Cafe and everyone would comment you guys would be a minority. I was being nice by putting it here and giving you the benefit of the #'s. Also I love how some of you want to ignore and put ur head in a dirt-hole, because the root of Ignorance is to ignore the truth.</p>

<p>confused, isn't the Klan talk the reason the last thread went away? If memory serves, you called those who disagreed with you Klansmen that time right before the thread disappeared. Please take this to the Cafe if you would like to talk about it. If you don't like the politics here, why are you continually drawn to post here?</p>

<p>I agree, I'd like to see this cr*p in the Cafe, or better yet, on some obscure, Monica Lewinsky forum.</p>

<p>Or better yet, why don't you talk about the politics of your country of ancestry?????? Maybe things are better there. Care to compare???</p>

<p>he called the 1940's the good old days didnt he? and well if i am not mistaken werent jim crow laws prevalent in the south at the time? weren't internment camps popping up all over the midwest? if he thinks those are good old days , what does that imply? you tell me then? it would be the equivalent of me saying that afghanistan during the 1990's were the good old days</p>

<p>I think that he's talking about good ole' days on a different sort of level, like the level that the youth were functioning, and how crime rates were significantly lower and we were economically the most prosperous and powerful country in the world...you know, the times that we are nostalgic about. You're bringing up the internment camp argument as a way to argue and prove him wrong...true this happened, but he's talking about the good ole' days for the entire U.S. as a whole, not necessarily for a certain group of people.</p>

<p>Dad2B'2010 said " Or better yet, why don't you talk about the politics of your country of ancestry?????? Maybe things are better there. Care to compare???"</p>

<pre><code> that's the most hypocritical comment ever, i am taking about basic right and wrong as in not killing people are you going to justify someone's actions by saying someone else did worse. Then every country in the world can look at Hitler and only do half his damage and so since someone else did worse I am good. But if you want a few countries that may be a little better when it comes to politics..... what about Canada, Finland, Norway, Sweden. How many countries have they invaded or threatened to invade in the last 30 years? 0. America, too many to count.
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<p>In the 1940, the population of African-Americans in the United States was 12.9 million, 10 percent of America's population. Japaneese were 1.2 million of America's pop. Combined , about 11-12 percent of a society were suffering, not exactly something to brag about to bring back these days.</p>

<p>Thank you. You have been tremendously enlightening. NOW GO AWAY!</p>

<p>Don't feed the trolls.</p>

<p>I love how this guy doesn't actually read my entire post. Or maybe he did and that's the only pathetic scrap he managed to pull out of it. Society has never been perfect, I'm just saying that the 1940s/WWII era still maintained an aura of respect and decency, whereas today anything, ANYTHING is simply declared as freedom of expression/speech, whatever.</p>

<p>Back in the 1940s people respected the military and didn't hold signs at a soldier's funeral saying "You deserve this." </p>

<p>Crawl back under your bridge Mr. Troll.</p>

<p>Someone sick Z-man on this boy!</p>

<p>He'll arrive on the scene eventually, and this guy won't know what hit him!!! :D</p>

<p>Concerning WPW post and the good ol' days...</p>

<p>I love the line before the first episode of Band of Brothers where the veteran is talking about when he first heard of Pearl Harbor and joined the military.</p>

<p>"Our country was attacked [...] and we all felt it our duty to join the Army."</p>

<p>Personally, I don't see too much of an overall difference between 9-11 and Pearl Harbor. It makes me sad thinking that so many children like you, confused, hold the views that you do. Why more people didn't join the military...I don't know. They sure as hell knew a war was on in '41, and number increased...yet today we see a decrease in the numbers joining. Though...I guess if kids cower away from casualty numbers, I'm glad I won't be on the field next to them.</p>

<p>Oh yeah...another favorite quote of mine..."It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."--Abe Lincoln</p>

<p>Think about that before you post next time...even if it is too late for you.</p>

<p>No, Z-man will need an invite because he usually sticks to USNA unless you prod him (like a true die-hard Navy man).</p>

<p>Last time I invited him to join in on confused rants (a couple/few months ago), by the time he read the PM, the entire thread was nuked. Too bad! ;)</p>

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<p>Should I be impressed?</p>

<p>What did you do to get in, write an essay more radically disjointed and nonsensical than all the other moonbats who applied?</p>

<p>Was it titled, "How George W. Bush and the American Military-Industrial Complex is responsible for the last Ice Age and the fall of Rome."?</p>

<p>Why not? You blame them for everything else.</p>

<p>Tell me, what is the value of Pi in your world? Is it a negative value?</p>

<p>ETA: LOL! I didn't realize I had such a reputation around here! I posted before I saw the summons!</p>