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Re-reading my last.....the French can be pretty vulgar. But that's another topic and don't get me started! My husband bought me a cool coffee mug with the red circle/slash around the picture of a frog.
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<p>LOL!</p>
<p>Believe it or not I, (yes I, the Z-Man) am currently working for a FRENCH company.</p>
<p>Hey, their money is just as green. :D</p>
<p>France:</p>
<p>"What do you expect from a culture and a nation that exerted more of its national will fighting against Disney World and Big Macs than against the Nazis?"
- Dennis Miller</p>
<p>Q. How do you say "Give me liberty or give me death!" in French?
A. I give up. </p>
<p>Q. How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?
A. Nobody knows. It's never been tried.</p>
<p>Q. What do you call 100,000 Frenchmen with their hands up?
A. The French Army. (OK, they have some pretty good special forces boys now and there was the French Resistance)</p>
<p>Q. Why was the Chunnel built under the English Channel?
A. So the French government could to flee to London.</p>
<p>Q: Did you hear about the new French tanks?
A: They have 5 gears...4 in reverse, and one forward gear just in case they're attacked from behind!</p>
<p>Q: Why don't they have fireworks at Euro Disney?
A: Because every time they shoot them off, the French try to surrender</p>
<p>Je me rends!</p>
<p>Did yall see the French rifle for sale on Ebay?</p>
<p>It was pretty cheap. Never fired...dropped once.</p>
<p>your anti-french diatribe is so naive considering that if their navy didnt help the colonies during the revolutionary war your sorry asses would still be under british control.</p>
<p>From Wikipedia
The French army resisted for little more than a month after the Germans attacked in 1940. This has been variously interpreted by critics as overconfidence in the Maginot Line and deficiencies in the French military, or as cowardice on the part of the French government. Curiously however, similar criticisms are rarely levelled against the Poles, the Dutch or the Belgians, nor for that matter against the British forces who were on the Western Front with the French in 1939-40 and whose route and flight to Dunkirk was part of the defeat. Modern military historians admit French failures, but against the might of the German Blitzkrieg, the charge of cowardice is belied by the savage fighting of the French and the 130,000 French dead in the first six weeks of the war (twice the number of American losses at Normandy in 1944). ya eat that last part you hypocrites.</p>
<p>Umm... so would yours. Where are you going with this?</p>
<p>that its hypocritical to make fun of them</p>
<p>Riiggghhhht. Type in "French Military Victories" into the Google search engine and then hit the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button. See what happens. Just humor me for a moment.</p>
<p>that's old an insensitive and immature</p>
<p>But accurate. :D</p>
<p>Definitely. You wonder why the french have the reputation they do. You mentioned the Maginot line... what a stupid idea. Build the greatest fortifications probably like known to man on the border between France and Germany, but forget to continue up through Belgium, the same place they were attacked the FIRST TIME!!! Genius. Leave it to the French to come up with something like that ;)</p>
<p>I particularly love how the nation went into a practical riot last week when the government said it was going to implement a policy where companies could (horror of horrors) fire employees within two years. </p>
<p>Yep. I can hear it now: "We don't have to work to keep our jobs! What do you think this is, America?"</p>
<p>Ah, socialism! Gotta love it!</p>
<p>And to think, some people (and they all seem to vote the same LEFT way, too..... then whine when they lose....) want to implement that kind of economic system here. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>"and the 130,000 French dead in the first six weeks of the war (twice the number of American losses at Normandy in 1944)"</p>
<p>merely a testiment to the effectiveness of the United States military and the 'citizen soldier'</p>
<p>I would (as a good process/quality engineer) call it "efficiency".</p>
<p>We got the job done faster and with fewer casualties.</p>
<p>Oh, and we WON, too! :D</p>
<p>Oh, and just for the record, Wikipedia is hardly what I would consider a completely reliable source of information. It's totally open-ended, with zero controls for accuracy.</p>
<p>For example "130,000 - twice what the Americans lost in June, 1944". We did not lose 65,000 dead in Normandy. The Allies (Americans, British, Canadians, and Other) lost around 54,000. As such, the entire premise is wrong. </p>
<p>That doesn't make us hypocrites. It simply makes us right.</p>
<p>ha...i was gonna go with 'efficiency', but opted with 'effectiveness'</p>
<p>either way, the French have no room to talk</p>
<p>i wonder if you know how naive and arrogant it makes you sound when you talk about efficiency and you think because the French didn't fight effectively ,it gives you the right to insult them. If you care so much about intellgence why did you vote for a guy with a C-average in high school to be President?</p>
<p>Oh and did you overlook the fact that if the French Navy didn't aid America during the Revolutionary War you would have had the living **** beat out of you?</p>
<p>And how can you mock military errors? In Both Vietnam and Iraq the insurgents, ragtag soldiers with limited technology , destroyed what is percieved to be the world's strongest army. Its cruel and callous to mock 130,000 dead human beings in the invasion of France as inefficient. Its the equiv. of those people you say that go to soldiers' funerals to insult them. That's what you are doing.</p>
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i wonder if you know how naive and arrogant it makes you sound when you talk about efficiency and you think because the French didn't fight effectively ,it gives you the right to insult them.
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<p>When soldiers don't fight, and surrender in droves, over and over, they deserve to be insulted because they suck at what they're supposed to do.</p>
<p>Tell me, if your car mechanic consistently ruined engine after engine, wouldn't you make fun of him?</p>
<p>Actually you're a better example. You continue to make clueless post after clueless post, so I'll just make fun of you and give everyone here a good laugh at your expense. :D</p>
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If you care so much about intellgence why did you vote for a guy with a C-average in high school to be President?
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<p>Because he was far more intelligent and trustworthy than the elitist snob he ran against the second time, and the double-college failure he ran against the first time.</p>
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Oh and did you overlook the fact that if the French Navy didn't aid America during the Revolutionary War you would have had the living **** beat out of you?
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<p>Interesting. You say "you" as though YOU (in Kalifornia) weren't part of the United States. Typical, and not surprising in the slightest.</p>
<p>Nope. I haven't forgotten the French Navy helping us during the Battle of Yorktown. Of course, we've paid them back many times over, and they still don't appreciate it. They have become complete cowards who only win wars against themselves. As such, I'll LMAO at them every chance I get.</p>
<p>Oh, and unlike the French, we would have simply KEPT FIGHTING if we had not won at Yorktown. :D</p>
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And how can you mock military errors? In Both Vietnam and Iraq the insurgents, ragtag soldiers with limited technology , destroyed what is percieved to be the world's strongest army.
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<p>Wrong, dirtbag. It was idiots like YOU who defeated us HERE and caused our esteemed liberal Congress at the time to actually PULL THE FUNDING from under OUR TROOPS! (They love the troops, though! :rolleyes: )</p>
<p>We cleaned the Vietnamese's clocks every time they stuck their pointy little heads out. In the meantime, the Fifth Column here in the states practically declared Ho Chi Minh a saint, and it all went from there. Throw in the fact that the Great Architect of the (failed) Great Society was a micromanaging fool who was choosing individual bombing targets from the Oval Office instead of letting the PROFESSIONALS do their jobs.</p>
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Its cruel and callous to mock 130,000 dead human beings in the invasion of France as inefficient. Its the equiv. of those people you say that go to soldiers' funerals to insult them. That's what you are doing.
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<p>Considering that I am over twice as old as you are and, at last count, about 75 times as smart, I really couldn't possibly care less what a snivelling little snot-nosed brat such as yourself thinks of me or anything else. There are kids your age on this board who are signing up to take bullets so you can sit home from school on your parent's PC and wax eloquent on topics in which you have no clue, no historical perspective, and zero credibility.</p>
<p>You are obviously far too immature and intellectually challenged to understand that losing 130,000 men and LOSING the battle is less efficient as a measure of effectiveness in combat than WINNING with only 54,000 dead. Yes, it's a numbers game, and yes each number is a life, but THAT'S WAR, junior! When you start being able to grow a beard, maybe you'll realize what that means.</p>
<p>Lemme guess. You go to public school, right? Public school in the People's Republic of Kalifornia. Thinking (and I use that term in its broadest possible sense ) as you do, your teachers (again, stretching the word to the limit) must think you'r be the next Karl Marx or Che Guevara, and I bet they give you straight A's. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>I'd love to see your ass in White Works, trying to pass yourself off as an American. Man, THAT would be a sight! Upperclassmen would be standing in line to get to you. :D</p>
<p>like i said before...watch what you say before you open your mouth</p>
<p>Vietnam was hardly a military loss. During the Tet Offensive the NVA suffered nearly 35,000 killed, 60,000 wounded, and 6,000 POWs. Compare that to US and ARVN combined 3,900 (about 1,100 US) deaths. Thanks to the media and anti-war propaganda, the public didn't see the war this way. With tremendous highlights on Ben Tre and Khe Sahn, the public only saw the extreme negative....</p>
<p>...kinda reminds you of the news today...</p>
<p>...as for 'going to soldier's funerals and insulting them'...how is what you're doing (with regards to Vietnam and Iraq) any different?</p>
<p>let me get this straight how can kerry by the elitist snob, when bush is the one that bought his way into yale, or what, do you think yale taking students with a c-average is something they always do?</p>
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When soldiers don't fight, and surrender in droves, over and over, they deserve to be insulted because they suck at what they're supposed to do."</p>
<p>If you the only thing you are good at is killing other human beings, then you are cursed. So what , should I admire the Nazis because their military was so great, despite the fact that they had a murderous ideology. Don't even kid yourself about WWII, the Soviet Union won WWII. The majority of German resources were dedicated to the Eastern Front. </p>
<p>Its funny how you call the Vietnames those people with "pointy little heads". If they wanted to be Communist why is it any of your business. Its their country and they can do what they want with it. And last time I checked a victory in war is defined as whoever takes the ground and the Vietnamese sure took the ground. And , are you suffering from cognitive dissonance? You like a democracy, but You revile the Congress and President that ended the war, don't you understand that most people are dead-set agaisnt wars and that if people have the choice, as they do here, they WILL consisently reduce the size of the military. Life sucks doesn't it? No war what could we do then? I don't know, maybe I don't know, not kill people?</p>
<p>Teachers don't give anyone grades. Its based on how you perform on tests, unlike in the South, where its probably based on the color of your skin. If socialism is so bad why are the majority of countries that have a democratic system turning to it? England . France. Germany, all of the other countries in the EU, Israel, Venezeula, and China? These are all socialist countries. But let me guess everyone else isn't as smart as you. You should go read the "Communist Manfiesto". you may not have to agree with it, but maybe in your small head somethings may make sense.
If I'm so dumb and you are so smart , how come I got a 2220 on the SAT's. Why am I in the top 5 percent of my graduating class? And why did I qualify for the USAMO- United States of America Math Olympiad? Let me guess all things I just mentioned are a conspiracy of left-wingers? Right? </p>
<p>Its funny how you mock the military-industrial complex when the first President to warn America about it was a REPUBLICAN, DWIGhT EISENHOWER, you right wing ideologue</p>
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let me get this straight how can kerry by the elitist snob, when bush is the one that bought his way into yale, or what, do you think yale taking students with a c-average is something they always do?
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<p>Public-school-quality punctuation and grammar. :rolleyes:</p>
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If you the only thing you are good at is killing other human beings, then you are cursed.
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<p>NEWSFLASH, Junior: The military has one and only one purpose, and that is to kill people and break things. It's not an international meals-on-wheels program or an extension of the State Department.</p>
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So what , should I admire the Nazis because their military was so great, despite the fact that they had a murderous ideology.
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<p>Godwin's Law. I win.</p>
<p>What is it with you liberals (who love the troops, right?) and comparisons between our troops and the Nazis? </p>
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Don't even kid yourself about WWII, the Soviet Union won WWII. The majority of German resources were dedicated to the Eastern Front.
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<p>Actually, young apprentice, Hitler lost the war with Russia because he was stupid, not because the Russians were any good. His stupidity gave them the time they needed to retreat and regroup, and the rest is history.</p>
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Its funny how you call the Vietnames those people with "pointy little heads". If they wanted to be Communist why is it any of your business. Its their country and they can do what they want with it.
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<p>True, but if you would shut your yap and read a book instead, you would find that Communism a) is not a "choice of the people", and b) never, EVER stays in a single country of a region. THAT is why we were there.</p>
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And last time I checked a victory in war is defined as whoever takes the ground and the Vietnamese sure took the ground.
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<p>Sure, after the Democrats pulled the funds and we had to run. Otherwise, they were forced to crawl underground like the roaches they were (and are) to get anywhere.</p>
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And , are you suffering from cognitive dissonance? You like a democracy, but You revile the Congress and President that ended the war, don't you understand that most people are dead-set agaisnt wars and that if people have the choice, as they do here, they WILL consisently reduce the size of the military. Life sucks doesn't it? No war what could we do then? I don't know, maybe I don't know, not kill people?
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<p>I reiterate: Liberalism is a mental disease. Only someone with a complete disconnect from reality or no clue about life could be so naive.</p>
<p>No one wants war, ESPECIALLY the people who have to go fight them. Sadly, however, idiots who follow your stupid ideology always allow those with less than noble intent to get too much power, and then people like me and others on this board have to go clean up your mess while you call us murderers.</p>
<p>Also, if the Congress passed a law tomorrow and the President signed it, and suddenly rape were legal, would you so quietly accept it? No? Well, that's exactly what we did to South Vietnam. We allowed the North to rape them, and idiots like you applauded.</p>
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Teachers don't give anyone grades. Its based on how you perform on tests, unlike in the South, where its probably based on the color of your skin.
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<p>LOL! Oh, this is too much fun!</p>
<p>Go on, please!</p>
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If socialism is so bad why are the majority of countries that have a democratic system turning to it? England . France. Germany, all of the other countries in the EU, Israel, Venezeula, and China? These are all socialist countries.
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<p>Yep. Economic powerhouses every one of them. Yessiree, France is SUCH a powerhouse that they are having revolts in the streets because they're being told they can be fired during the first two years if they don't perform. China is adopting capitalism faster than you can say Wal-Mart, to the point that they are now.... GET THIS!..... Trying to shrink the gap between the rich and the poor! Wait! I thought there WERE no rich or poor in socialist countries!</p>
<p>The EU is falling apart because France wants to build protectionist barriers (because it can't compete otherwise), and Venezuela is another Cuba.</p>
<p>Tell me, young idealist. If things are so good there, and so lousy here, why not get on a plane and MOVE THERE?</p>
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<p>No, not everyone. But you sure aren't.</p>
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You should go read the "Communist Manfiesto". you may not have to agree with it, but maybe in your small head somethings may make sense.
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<p>Sweetheart, I read that bilge back before you were a glint in your daddy's eye. There's a reason the Soviet Union fell, that Cuba is falling apart, and that China is adopting capitalism, and it can all be found in that book.</p>
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If I'm so dumb and you are so smart , how come I got a 2220 on the SAT's. Why am I in the top 5 percent of my graduating class? And why did I qualify for the USAMO- United States of America Math Olympiad? Let me guess all things I just mentioned are a conspiracy of left-wingers? Right?
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<p>First off, I could tell you that I invented the internet. Doesn't make it true (ask Al Gore). Also, as you mature you will learn to demonstrate your qualifications rather than announce them. There is very little that you listed above that I find in any way impressive. Also, I will not accept that you are such a wonderful academic performer when you cannot construct a logical, coherent argument in proper prose and with correct spelling and punctuation. Back to the basics, sweetheart.</p>
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Its funny how you mock the military-industrial complex when the first President to warn America about it was a REPUBLICAN, DWIGhT EISENHOWER, you right wing ideologue
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<p>Mocking? Me? NEVER!</p>
<p>I LOVE the military-industrial complex! I was and am a proud member of it!</p>
<p>It has kept us free and prosperous for over 60 years, you left-wing idiot. </p>
<p>Jeez. You really do make it too easy... :D</p>
<p>Well, it's been indescribably delicious conversing with you, chumb-bumb, but I've really got to go.</p>
<p>Have fun buring flags and shooting dope at Berkely! Lord knows, you're not going to learn anything useful there, so you may as well spend your efforts having a good time.</p>
<p>Peace, bro!</p>
<p>Oh, and stand out from all the other clueless hippies: BATHE AND USE DEODORANT! It's all the rage with the ladies these days! ;)</p>