Trying to cut down the list

<p>Besides Macalester (which you're iffy about), Barnard is the only LAC on that list. If you're into the LAC "atmosphere," I'd add a few more of those and drop places like Penn. If not, vote it off the island because you'll get the same educational opportunities at Columbia. Also, Yale doesn't have an IR Major. It has an international studies major which you have to complete in addition to a tangentially related major (history, econ, polysci, EPE, etc). For me, that's really appealing. For others into IR, that could be a turn-off.</p>

<p>nyleve, I'm totally into the international studies thing. I like the idea of having a breadth of knowledge, which is why schools that only have polisci with a international concentration don't bother me (aka Barnard/Columbia)</p>

<p>lolabelle, my friend got into both Barnard and Columbia this year, so I don't really agree with you there. Also, single-choice EA just means you can't apply anywhere ED. You can apply to as many EA schools as you want. I know a girl who applied to something like 8 schools EA this past year.</p>

<p>Thanks everyone for all your help choosing. I think I'm pretty set with the above list. Now could anyone chance me?</p>

<p>UVA a safety? Jesus christ.</p>

<p>Single-choice early action means you can only apply that school EA; and certainly nowhere else ED. </p>

<p>Read here, for one: <a href="http://www.stanford.edu/dept/uga/applying/1_2c_scea.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.stanford.edu/dept/uga/applying/1_2c_scea.html&lt;/a> (A stanford example; Yale is the same)</p>

<p>Schools like Georgetown have simple EA, which does not limit you from apply elsewhere EA or even ED. Your friend probably applied to non-SCEA schools, just regular EA schools.</p>

<p>I didn't say that if youapplied to both Barnard and Columbia that you would definitely be rejected at either school. I'm just telling you -- and this has been verified by not only my Barnard adcom friend, but other adcom officers who know the schools -- that your chances are greatly diminshed at either school. Your friend must have been a real stand-out.</p>

<p>"You can apply to as many EA schools as you want”</p>

<p>You can't at Yale. And it's irrelevant that your friend was accepted to both colleges. Applying to Columbia as well as Barnard will severely handicap your chances of obtaining a favorable outcome. Your friend is a rare exception. Did you see both acceptance letters? ;)</p>

<p>Lollabelle was correct about cross applications, as well as EA. It would behoove you to listen to her advice </p>

<p>"Yale's early plan is unlike standard Early Action programs in that you may not apply Early Action or Early Decision to any other school"</p>

<p><a href="http://www.yale.edu/admit/freshmen/application/how/index.html#single%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yale.edu/admit/freshmen/application/how/index.html#single&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>edit:Crossposted</p>

<p>Ok, gotcha. Had my info mixed up. Gtown has some weird EA policy where you can apply EA to as many schools, but no ED schools. Whatever.</p>

<p>Anyways, if I applied to all of them RD, what would my chances be, in your guys' opinion?</p>

<p>Here's my list again:
-Columbia
-Yale
-Georgetown
-Princeton
-Tufts
-Barnard
-UVA (legacy)
-William and Mary
-University of Richmond</p>

<p>12 schools is fine nowadays.</p>

<p>Okay, I definitely wouldn't take out Wesleyan just because lolabelle said so. Dude, Wesleyan's an amazing school, and it's considered one of the "Little Three" (liberal arts variation on the big three-- HYP). Also, I would suggest taking out Macalester and putting Wesleyan back in. Minnesota has some of the crappiest winters, and Macalester isn't as strong academically as is Wesleyan.</p>

<p>In reference to your comment regarding urban areas, I also felt that I needed to go to college in an urban area, but after exploring different campuses, I realized that I wouldn't want to go to NYU. Just explore. </p>

<p>BTW, </p>

<pre><code> Wesleyan, Columbia, Yale, Georgetown and Barnard= the shiznit!
</code></pre>

<p>Wesleyan is about as far from a city school as you can possibly get. If you want a school with city access don't apply there.</p>

<p>son is also interested in IR and middle-eastern studies. Some other suggested schools that he has been told to look at:</p>

<p>U of C, Berkeley
Dartmouth (only Ivy to offer Arabic as a major, I think)
University of Chicago.</p>

<p>also -- you want to do some research and see what kind of internships would be available. some schools are much better than others (we haven't checked that out yet)</p>

<p>gwu would probably be a safety . and it has a very strong IR program, and easy access to washington internships -- you might consider that instead of williams & mary . Also.. I disagree that wesleyan is "about as far from a city school as you can possibly get." It's obviously not in a city, but it is two hours from both NY and Boston, so weekend trips are totally feasible which isnt true for all of the schools on your current list. but that aside... the list looks good! for chances, you would need to give us gpa, sats , ECs etc</p>

<p>Yes, and Macalester is right in the middle of the Twin Cities, with lots of cultural opportunities, as well as opportunities for internships and research. Minnesota winters are probably colder than those around Wes, but they are also very sunnier, an important factor in preventing winter blahs. The difference in academics is negligible at most.</p>

<p>I'd add Carleton to your list. It has a great poly sci and IR program. In fact, it has a poly sci/ IR hybrid major with more emphasis on global issues.</p>

<p>Okay, don't apply to the University of Chicago if you'd actually like to experience the city of Chicago. UChicago's academics practically take over your life. I'd suggest Northwestern over UChicago, but then again, you don't have to apply to either school.</p>

<p>Regarding your chances, I would bet you'd be admitted or "yield management wait listed" everyone except for Yale.</p>

<p>I'm not saying you wouldn't get into Yale - I'm saying I have NO IDEA if you'd get into Yale - admission to HYP is too random to predict chances, don't you think?</p>

<p>"Yield management wait listed": what I mean is that your stats and recommendations and essays and EC's support you should have gotten in - but they wait listed you - and that if you convinced them that if you came off the wait list you would definitely attend, they would let you off the wait list. You know what I mean?</p>

<p>Thank you JJG, that's very encouraging!</p>

<p>"and that if you convinced them that if you came off the wait list you would definitely attend, they would let you off the wait list"</p>

<p>With all due respect, you haven’t the slightest idea what you’re speaking about, and you’re doing students’ an extreme disservice by offering erroneous information. </p>

<p>Many hundreds of students’ affirm their intention they’ll attend if offered admission. It has a minuscule influence re: admission decisions. And most yrs very few, if any, students are taken from the wait-list. When and if HYP (or any college) resort to the wait-list, they select students’ to round out the class or fill a need. For example, the orchestra requires another oboe player; admissions will locate an oboe player—ditto football, hockey, et al athletes, urms, too few males, another important legacy, more geographical diversity. I’m sure you get the gist. ;)</p>

<p>Edit: Many colleges only admit wait-listed students' that don't require aid if the aid budget has been exhausted</p>

<p>If you were a senate page during the school year, how were you able to continue all your activities? If you report on the application you were VP your Junior year, and you were in Washington, that will look suspicious and like fluff. If you were a summer page, then it's a different story, even though summer pages have a slightly worse reputation, because it's for the "connected".</p>