Does anyone have any updates on applying? We submitted our TE app to ten schools. Is anyone reaching out to the liaison to make certain the connection is made between the admissions and TE app?
Nice thread. This is my third time through the process but second time where I feel like I know what I’m doing (as best you can anyway). As others have said, cast a wide net and you will want to have stats that are near/exceed the 75th percentiles to have a shot at most.
I’m fortunate to work for a home school that is TE desirable so I don’t have to qualify to ‘export out’ and our liaison does all the online inputting once you submit the form/request for the schools your dependent in interested in.
My S19 works with his admission counselors but I work with the TE liaisons at the school. He applied to 7 TE schools and I have contacted each school’s liaison to confirm interest and receipt of the TE app. I ask them for the best guess of the number of awarded scholarships, the criteria, and if any stacking is allowed for outside/other awards. Once he receives his acceptance (3 yes so far, 4 haven’t heard from) I follow up to find out when they will be making a TE decision. He has one TE offer already but the others most likely will not occur for awhile still. That’s the hardest part of the process. I warn him all the time not to fall in love with a school as he’ll get in…but may not get the TE and we’ll have to see if its financially reachable. He’s relatively good at this but definitely has a #1 school so I’m hoping he gets in (very likely) and gets TE there.
Another thing to consider is the ‘type’ of school. My daughter’s (D17) first choice school was a school that most in New England would consider a solid university but a backup choice for those who are chasing the prestige schools. She was 19 on the initial TE list for 5 scholarships. But…most of the kids above her must have accepted those offers to the prestige schools because they reached her…on May 1st. Was an exciting day to be sure. Just wanted to share that getting off the wait-list does happen sometimes.
Just commenting because I will be going through this process soon. Not sure if they will be starting a new thread any time soon, but will stay on this one while it is here.
(BTW, when we toured York College they said every student who applied last year for one, received a TE. Our campus liaison said U. Delaware is nearly impossible to receive. She also said the TE website is complete rubbish and to not believe any of the % granted statistics you see there.)
We received one TE so far at a likely school. Likely based on his stats and not the info on the TE website. My S19 also received their highest merit at $27k. I haven’t contacted them yet about any option to stack as we haven’t gotten any others yet.
S19 isn’t applying to BU but D20 might and they told me they give a total of 10 so super competitive. My question down the road is whether it can be stacked with athletic dollars.
@Dolemite Do you happen to remember when USC let you know about TE?
@mamom24 My D was accepted early and she got the email on 1/30 and I was copied. I seem to remember calling before that though once she was accepted and asking and that’s how they got my email when they sent the official announcement. TE was valued at 80% of the current tuition at USC so for 17-18 that was $42,758.
@Dolemite Thanks. Is it unusual to be accepted early at USC? I got the impression it was a late March portal thing.
USC accepts a number of students at the end of January to be considered for their merit scholarships - further interviewing for those.
An update on our list of TE schools. So far we’ve received the TE from Norwich and Quinnipiac.
…Nice @MaandMEmom ! I’m following this thread closely as I will be deep in it next year with D20. My S17 started Fall 2017 with a nice TE scholarship (set rate), so I’m familiar with the process. He was offered 5 out of 8 – did not get offers from the most competitive schools on his list, including a no from Quinnipiac.
Wondering, though, about the discussion of “desirable” home institutions. Do people mean to say that if you are from a BU or a Nova your child will have a better shot at their first choice TE? I thought selection was based almost exclusively on academic merit. Can someone go into more detail?
@sandstreet I think it comes down to the number of exports at the home institution first. Does the home institution limit the number of exports and if so, is that based on seniority? I believe that my home institution is desirable (full tuition for imports, not super competitive, etc.) so it seems most dependents get the option to apply. Hubby says there are about 40 exports each year.
Thereafter, I think it comes to academic preparedness in terms of the success of the import. I believe institutions also will use imports to fill institutional needs as well. I want to think that BU and Villanova are among the hardest to get. They told me at BU they provide just 10, which for a school of 16,000 that’s minuscule!
I can’t see how prestige of the institution rewarding the TE comes much into play except that it’s harder for the student to get accepted into the home institution in order to use Tuition Remission and are ‘forced’ to use TE and might have better stats. For example, USC seems to have more exports than imports due to how hard it is to get into USC.
I don’t mean that the home institution’s prestige matters, rather that the family is approved to try to get a TE slot. I know that there are some colleges where students are not even able to try because imports limit the number of exports. In our case, we applied to a variety of TE schools and focused on those where S19’s stats put him at or above the 75% of all applicants. I do agree that a school like USC will see far more exports.
I understand that if your home college limits the number of exports that it reduces the chance that you will get one of those spots. But does the number of exports at your home college have any impact on the odds of getting TE at the college you are applying to? Or is that strictly based on how desirable of an applicant you are compared to the other TE applications that they receive?
@Lemonlee I believe the answer is no. My home institution gives the green light as a “potential” export. Based on a presentation done by the folks in HR, hubby says (he works there) that they said they have not had to limit the number of exports, which leads me to believe there is a fair amount of demand for imports. A good balance…
Once I get the OK for my kid to apply, it is up to me to ensure that we have a good list of likelies, matches, and reaches knowing that it is competitive in nature and schools will use these to fill certain needs. For instance, my son wants to be a civil engineering and I bet that his chances of receiving the TE would be exponentially higher at WPI if he were a girl. It’s well discussed here that this is a goal for them. WPI is not a great fit with its condensed semesters so its not even on our list.
I talked to the TE rep at Villanova and they said that because they will accept existing students who had not received it in previous years (some school only allow freshman to apply to TE), there is a good chance that there will be zero available for new students. Guess that was a waste…
D20 is interested in BU but the rub will be that she’s a recruited athlete and the timing will likely present a challenge and whether the TE and athletic $$ can stack is yet a whole other scenario. Or even merit as she’s above their 75% as well.
This is my first time at this and it feels like there’s a whole bunch of magic sauce mixed into the process.
Whether merit aid, TE, and athletic aid can stacked at BU is entirely up to BU. The NCAA doesn’t restrict stacking of merit and athletic, and since TE isn’t need based that should be fine too. However some of the conferences do not allow merit and athletic aid.
A lot of TE schools don’t allow stacking of merit and TE since they put it in the same category of ‘institution aid.’ Most don’t mind stacking if the aid is coming from outside sources, but once it is inside aid, they get pickier.
Yes that’s been the case for the schools where we’ve received TE so far. The TE offer replaces the merit. Some small specialty institution specific awards remained at one school.
"Condensed semesters " were implemented at WPI after one hundred years of experience with the traditional semester system in a STEM environment. It was not taken lightly by the faculty and does have its pros and cons.
When I was a student at WPI, I experienced both systems during the transition.
Both systems carry the equivalent workload of 18 semester hours per half year. Traditional LA programs carried fewer semester hours than engineering majors so the comparative workload was a little rough to begin with. Under the old system, I would let a course slide now and then as I could play catch up later. This was risky, but it could be done. Every one knew it was better not to let a course slide, but human nature being what it is…
With the seven week term approach, slacking off is out of the question . You have to stay on top! Some describe it as drinking out of a fire hose. Why did they do this?
They were building a structure flexible enough to introduce more student projects and student research both on and off campus. That is how necessary they felt undergraduate research was. It was not easy on the faculty either as they had to put in a ton of time restructuring courses. Some felt it was a catharsis, other felt it was an unmanageable H…l.
The Physics department argued that the Heisenberg uncertainty principle required more time for digestion. This led to some very interesting comments from a Professor and German refugee on this subject. He reminded them of his warning in the previous lecture that this would be the case, but to keep thinking about it! Everyone who studied this theory knew that. You had to wear the new suit until it fit. It was a process that did not stop because the course was over. The course never really ends, but is part of a useful continuum.
Well, that was decades ago and many studies since then have demonstrated the flexibility and project opportunities have contributed real value. Eventually this process led to the Nation Academy of Engineering’s top prize (The Gordon Prize) in 2016. See https://www.nae.edu/Activities/Projects/Awards/GordonPrize/GordonWinners.aspx#tabs
This process involves an earlier transition from known processes in the classroom to application in the field. The light turns on with application.
This does not mean it is the right fit for every student.
If you have gotten this far, Thank You!
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@retiredfarmer WPI is very popular where I’m from and a good number of girls from our town are current students. We also spend a fair amount of time there for athletics for another child so I know it pretty well. My son, while I won’t call him 2E, struggles with executive issues usually in the early part of the year so WPI would likely be trouble for him. He needs the 15 week semester to play catch up if need be:).
Thank you. Reflex reaction on my part going back 50 plus years.