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I know the question about the incoming NMFs has been asked here, so that’s good to finally know.</p>
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That’s a pretty amazing drop in eight years!</p>
<p>oh crap!..better apply now before all the spots disappear!!! :D</p>
<p>hmm what kind of students are being rejected though? what im curious about is when they say “a student with a 21 ACT or 1000 SAT along with a cumulative GPA of 3.0 should be successful at the University”…i can’t imagine 10000 applicants to a state flagship school with stats lower than that!</p>
<p>also im sure quite a few would like to know how many OOS kids enrolled</p>
<p>I can easily imagine 10,000 applicants with ACT scores of 21 or lower, or somewhat higher ACT scores but poor GPA’s. The fact, as we have repeated many times here, is that Alabama is a relatively poor state, and rural students, both Black and White, and inner city Black applicants have decided disadvantages that contribute to lower scores. UA cuts these folk some slack, but as we can see, the door is narrowing. I think it would great if UA started a pilot project to see if it could help raise the ACT scores of high school students in the poorer areas surrounding Tuscaloosa. Of course, those communities need to take responsibility as well. Nothing helps a child like a conscientious, and loving parent, no matter how disadvantaged that parent. But I think institutions like UA could help them too.</p>
<p>*oh crap!..better apply now before all the spots disappear!!!</p>
<p>hmm what kind of students are being rejected though? what im curious about is when they say “a student with a 21 ACT or 1000 SAT along with a cumulative GPA of 3.0 should be successful at the University”…i can’t imagine 10000 applicants to a state flagship school with stats lower than that!</p>
<p>also im sure quite a few would like to know how many OOS kids enrolled *</p>
<p>I don’t know why the majority of that 10,000 got rejected…but…</p>
<p>Students get rejected for reasons other than low SAT/ACTs…they can get rejected for suspensions on their records or not the right high school pre-reqs or not a high enough GPA. There are probably other things that I can’t think of right off the top.</p>
<p>Also…Bama is more lenient with stats early in the application season. For instance… a student with an ACT 22 and 2.7 GPA might get accepted in October, but might get rejected if he applied in February.</p>
<p>Bama will accept a student with a B average with a low SAT/ACT because the assumption is that the student does his assignments, but may not have had that great of a K-12 education (such as a student from a rural town). </p>
<p>Bama has said that it is committed to providing access to students who may not have had the best of K-12 education (like those students from the more rural areas). Many of those students’ scores are going to be lowish…even if the have good GPAs.</p>
<p>That is one of the reason that Bama is growing the school. it knows that it can’t continue that access and raise the school’s academic profile without also growing the school with high stats students to compensate for those lowish scores. </p>
<p>For those with “borderline stats,” Bama does ask for teacher recs and writing samples. </p>
<p>The truth is that many majors don’t really require a student to have high test scores ?. Does a Theatre major, Illustration major, or Communication major really need to have high test scores…or do they need other talents in order to succeed?</p>
<p>WOW. Impressive numbers all around!</p>
<p>The class includes 125 National Merit Scholars, up from 102 in 2009. Last year, UA ranked 10th in the nation among public universities in the enrollment of National Merit Scholars.</p>
<p>125 NMFs!!! Awesome!!! Bama might move up to #9 this year for publics with NMFs!</p>
<p>Does anyone know how many NMF’s Auburn enrolled this fall? They enrolled around 60 last fall.</p>
<p>Atlanta68, I’m actually surprised with how much UA is doing to help improve the circumstances of local middle school/high school students. Alabama Action, as you probably know, went to the local middle school. While we mostly did aesthetic work (painting, building benches, etc), we also spent time with a “buddy group,” where we were able to act as mentors for the week. One of my friend’s buddy actually even said during Role Model Day that he wanted to be like Zach (my friend) and go to college and get a good education. Furthermore, the Honors College does a lot of outreaches. I actually just got back half an hour ago from serving as a tutor/mentor for the football players at the local high school, which about 30 honors college students are a part of.</p>
<p>I know that people may wonder why we are only helping the football players, and it’s not because “football is king.” At their high school, every student has an “activity” period, where they can take choir, yearbook, etc. However, the football players are required to have “football study period” as their activity. I expected most of them to be struggling academically, since we were there to tutor/mentor them, after all. While that is the case for some, others really need help in only one or two subjects (I spent all morning helping a student with Spanish), and others are only there because it’s part of the team requirements. This outreach is really going to have an impact. Today was the first day - we’re there for an hour - yet I already heard a UA student advising a high school student on the best way to prepare for college (talk to your advisor, make sure you have all the core reqs, etc), while another high school student was asking for help studying for his ACT.</p>
<p>This is the only UA academic outreach that I know about in detail, but I have had emails about several other opportunities that I just don’t have time to do. I am pleasantly surprised with the effort UA is making to help the students in the Tuscaloosa area. (:</p>
<p>We’d have to see what the statistics are for entering freshman to completely assess UA’s selectivity.</p>
<p>UA students, faculty and staff do a great deal of outreach. Remember that service is 1/3 of UA’s mission, along with teaching and research.</p>
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<p>Last year’s admissions stats are available here:
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<p>Krazie and Feeno, </p>
<p>Glad to hear though I already knew some of what you wrote. Happy for you Krazie in particular, as I know you are from out of state. You sound like a great new member of the UA family. I agree that UA is doing a lot of great things for the state of Alabama. I suppose I was just thinking that UA could not only help others, but help boost its own prestige as well, if it had an applicant base that was better prepared for college entrance exams.</p>
<p>So if 25% have a 4.0 and looking at the data set 50% have over a 3.5? Potentially 50% are eligible for merit (if they have the test scores). Do we know what percentage receive merit? Do we know how many Presidential Scholars there are?</p>
<p>Idinct</p>
<pre><code> For the class entering in the fall of 2009 there were 488 Presidential scholars. In the common data set it said there were 1320(26%) students who received non need based scholarships or grant aid. The information for the entering freshman class probably will not be available for several more months.
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<p>There are probably more Presidential Scholars that enrolled this fall because there was an increase in NMF this year…(over 20 more). That suggests an overall increase in scholarship-qualified students.</p>
<p>I bet the OOS student numbers also increase.</p>
<p>what rank is the university in terms of enrollment? ie is it the 50th largest?</p>
<p>I didn’t know that there was such a thing…LOL…would it be by undergrad numbers or what?</p>
<p>yeah…im not sure if people actually rank schools by that criterion though</p>
<p>LOL…if you stay on this site long enough, you’ll see everything ranked. It’s just the nature of the type of people who come here.</p>
<p>“best schools for reading magazines”
“best university spas”
“best colleges for watching squirrels”</p>