UC Berkeley or Harvey Mudd

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If that’s the definition, no wonder students and alumni of certain top publics are considered to have such large amounts of school spirit. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>doesn’t cal have one of the best, if not the best, engineering programs in the country?</p>

<p>If HMC’s football team could win the Rose Bowl there would be school spirit. ;)</p>

<p>Berkeley is one of the very best graduate/research universities in engineering. That sort of thing is relatively easy to measure: number of famous profs, publication output, money for research projects, etc. But how do you measure for undergrad where research isn’t the main issue? That’s much more nebulous. I imagine that Mudd would have smaller classes, more focused students in general, and have some other advantages. On the other hand, being part of a world class graduate dept, even as an undergrad, is nothing to sneeze at.</p>

<p>*If HMC’s football team could win the Rose Bowl there would be school spirit. *</p>

<p>I have plenty of pride and spirit in my school just from the education it gave me and people I met while here. I find it sad some people need to gather behind an arbitrary sports team to feel spirit/pride in their school.</p>

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<p>I don’t doubt the ability of grads, but it still does not offer the variety of specialized courses you would find at schools with individual engineering majors. This was a major criteria for me during my search as I knew what I wanted to take classes in.</p>

<p>^^ Sorry, that was a joke. I know that HMC doesn’t have a football team. ;)</p>

<p>Mudd. 10char</p>

<p>Actually Harvey Mudd does have a football team. It is part of the consortium and participates with CMS - Claremont/Mudd/Scripps in all of their sports. It’s Div III, but in a very competitive league - SCIAC - for a number of sports such as tennis, golf, track and field, swimming, etc. The football team generally doesn’t win the league, but a number of other teams regularly make it to the national NCAA Div III finals.</p>