UC - Getting California Residency HELP!!

<p>I am currently Junior at Cal.</p>

<p>My father works in Seattle,and my mother resides with my father.
Since we are a newly immigrated family, we are residents of no state yet, I believe.
I am aware of that it is extremely difficult for someone with non-california resident parents, to claim california residency for tuition purposes. </p>

<p>As my father can not move down to California due to his work, my mother is planning to come down to california, rent a house under her name, get a CA identification card as well as a driver license. And my father is willing to pay tax to CA as well. I have every intention of living, getting employed within California permanently.</p>

<p>Would this give my mother a california residency after 1 year, and will I be able to be one as well? We are hoping that it would make me a CA resident for my senior year at Cal, paying in-state tuition.</p>

<p>I am in need of urgent help and advice.
Thank you very much.</p>

<p>That only works if you are under 18.</p>

<p><a href=“http://registrar.berkeley.edu/residency.html[/url]”>http://registrar.berkeley.edu/residency.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://registrar.berkeley.edu/minors.html[/url]”>http://registrar.berkeley.edu/minors.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I am over 18, however under 25.
and It is very unlikely for me to be financially independent, since I can’t make anything near $45000 per year.</p>

<p>What was your plan when you applied to Cal? If something changed in your situation, maybe you need a different Kind of help.</p>

<p>[Establishing</a> Legal Residence - Office Of The Registrar](<a href=“http://registrar.berkeley.edu/establish.html]Establishing”>http://registrar.berkeley.edu/establish.html)</p>

<p>In order to be classified as a resident for tuition purposes, you must fulfill ALL 3 requirements listed below:</p>

<pre><code>Physical Presence: You must be physically present in California for more than one year (366 days) immediately prior to the residence determination date of the term for which classification as a resident is requested.

Intent: You must establish your intent to make California your home one year prior to the residence determination date of the term for which classification as a resident is requested.

If you are physically present in California solely for educational purposes, you will not be eligible for resident classification regardless of the length of your stay in California. The physical presence requirement (above) will be extended until you can demonstrate a concurrence of both physical presence and intent for one full year.
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<p>Financial Independence: If you will not reach age 24 by December 31 of the year in which classification as a resident is requested, and are not dependent upon a California resident parent (biological or legally adoptive only) for tuition purposes, you will be required to satisfy the University’s self-sufficiency requirement.</p>

<p>It should be noted that this requirement makes it extremely difficult for most undergraduates who do not have a parent domiciled in California to qualify for classification as a resident at a University of California campus.</p>

<p>Assuming you meet the requirements, how does this save you any money?</p>

<p>The additional out of state costs for one year at Berkeley are about $12,000, according to their website.</p>

<p>Your mother would be paying for rent, utilities, etc. for two years. If the additional costs for two households are not under $500 a month (and there might be tax differences as well), you wouldn’t save anything. Or would you live with your mother and save on room and board costs? Even then, you’d have to run the numbers to see if it made any sense.</p>

<p>I have an younger brother at UCSD as junior, so in-state tuition for 2 of us would save a lot.</p>

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<p>If you and your brother are juniors in college NOW…you aren’t going to save a penny. Your mom doesn’t live in CA now…she doesn’t work there (thus not showing intent to have that as her domicile). She would need to do this for 366 days BEFORE your senior year in college. She would be doing this for two years…and seriously…I’m with others. The costs of renting an apartment, utilities, food, furniture, and CA TAXES (she will need to file as a resident of CA) will not likely save you the $24,000 in difference in cost IF you can even make that residency change work. </p>

<p>I’m going to say…just renting an apartment in CA does NOT (in my opinion) show intent to establish residency in that state especially since your DAD will be maintaining a residence where he has always been (Seattle). Do you think the college won’t notice that?</p>

<p>Again, parent moving to California only affects your residence if they move BEFORE you turn 18.</p>

<p>I heard UCs made a deal with incoming OoS freshmen Fall 2011 that they can pay in-state tuition starting their 2nd year even without establishing “real residency.” Can someone confirm or deconfirm this?</p>

<p>Chaos…I can’t confirm or not…but I rather doubt it. The UC system along with all of the rest of CA is having significant financial issues. I can’t imagine the cash that OOS students bring in tuition would be reduced. There are THOUSANDS of students who are OOS. Are you suggesting that the UCs would allow all of them to establish residency and have instate tuition after their freshman year? If that IS the case, someone in CA made a very poor financial decision.</p>

<p>Strongly doubt that is true…the UCs want the big OOS money coming in.</p>

<p>*I have an younger brother at UCSD as junior, so in-state tuition for 2 of us would save a lot. *</p>

<p>You’re at Cal and bro is at SD, so even if one of you were to live with mom and commute, the other would still have R&B costs.</p>

<p>This whole thing just sounds like a poor plan from the beginning. Having 2 kids attending UCs as OOS students (to the tune of about $100k per year) when you have fine instate options in Washington, just sounds silly. You may need to finish at Cal, but younger sibling may need to transfer to UWash for a more reasonably priced option.</p>

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<p>Sounds like they are BOTH juniors…now.</p>

<p>Yeah, but if there goal is to attract more OoS students, then giving OoS 2nd year students in-state tuition would still net the UCs more money. I mean the logic is simple:</p>

<p>1 year of OoS tuition > 0 years of OoS tuition (for the UCs).</p>

<p>If the OoS students in question are hesitant to pay 4 years worth of OoS tuition, making them pay 1 year of OoS tuition might make them more likely to enroll at a UC.</p>

<p>That would also put more pressure on an already cash strapped system because you are still going to need to service them along with Calif. residents for more than one year. Financially it would be a disaster waiting to happen</p>

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<p>Four years of OOS tuition is far greater than ONE. The UCs attract a HUGE number of OOS applicants…especially the higher profile ones like UCLA and UCB. BUT UCSD, and UCSC and others are now on the “go to” list for many OOS students…knowing they will be paying the full cost for four year.</p>

<p>Supposedly the goal is not to attract more OOS students; there are plenty. The goal is to balance the budget. I don’t see how granting instate rates to OOS would help</p>

<p>The rumor is simply false.</p>

<p>But you know, it’s so financially illogical that perhaps the CA government would go for it.</p>

<p>I and my younger brother have been in UC for 2 years before my parents came to United States, and we did not know my father’s job would be appointed to seattle. Like I said before, we just got our immigration approved. So my parents are still residents of no where, I think. However, My father needs to work in seattle at least for an year. After one year, my whole family wants to stay in California for the rest of years.</p>

<p>Non-resident fee is about $22,800 per year for UC, so If 2 of us pay in-state for senior year, we would save $45,600. That’s huge.</p>

<p>The UC’s website states that it is almost impossible for students with non-CA resident parents to establish in-state residency. So I’m only asking (1) whether my mother coming down to California, renting a house, getting a car, driving under her name for one year would give her CA residency or not. She wouldn’t be working, so won’t be paying tax. </p>

<p>(2) If my mother gets the residency, my father would be washington resident, and my mother would be CA resident, would that make me and my younger brother enable to establish the CA residency assuming we satisfy all other requirements?</p>

<p>Could anyone answer those questions with certainty?</p>