UC Tuition Fees Could Double

<p>Honest-to-goodness CURRENT CA resident here.</p>

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<p>If only that were true systemwide…if so, UC would needn’t so much money (bcos it wouldn’t have so many campuses). The simple fact is that it ain’t too difficult to earn B’s in College Prep to become UC-eligible. It only takes a modicum of effort in most public high schools in the state. A 3.0 will essentially guarantee one a slot at a UC…does a 3.0 really deserve the term, “best and brightest”?</p>

<p>fwiw: Third-generation Californian here.</p>

<p>POIH, have you ever heard the term “enlightened self interest”?</p>

<p>blue, so in college confidential-land, a 3.0 is borderline learning disabled? the snide condescension regarding all things public on this website is truly pathetic. why shouldn’t a kid with a 3.0 get guaranteed admission (which is CURRENTLY in jeopardy) to a good university in his or her home state?!? the point is that a 3.0–in recent times-- is often not enough. a kid who has to deal with a dangerous neighborhood, apathetic home environment, food stamps, etc. and still manages to pull a 3.0 in high school in the 21st century is to be commended.</p>

<p>i get the sense that there are lots of older (50+) folks on this site who really aren’t in touch with the challenges today’s kids face in the classroom and in society. it “ain’t” the 60s or 70s anymore, people!</p>

<p>You are adding a lot into my post that does not exist calimani.</p>

<p>Merced is still way behind enrollment projections. Clearly there are enough slots in the system to accommodate those that desire to attend a four-year research University.</p>

<p>yeah, i guess i’m grumpy and tired of the UC hate on this thread…</p>

<p>and katliamom: all the best to your father!</p>

<p>I saw kids this year with weighted GPAs of 3.9 getting rejected from UC Riverside and UC Santa Cruz.</p>

<p>Too many students want to attend, and even in the hyper-inflated grades/stats world of CC, we hear about students getting denied. Those students will go elsewhere if they can’t secure a spot in the prized UC system - either out of state or private schools. There used to be a time when the Cal States were easy to get into and the fallback position of students. Not so much, anymore. </p>

<p>We should be building more campuses, instead of cutting back. If only there was money.</p>

<p>Just today I heard that one of the San Diego community colleges isn’t going to be having ANY summer school, unless it is for allied health or students needing to graduate in summer term. Not sure if this is for all SD cc’s, or just Mesa.</p>

<p>^^ The Los Rios District (Sacramento area) is looking at cutting summer enrollment by one-third. </p>

<p>“What we’re going to see is our bright, young students leaving the state to get their education and unfortunately they don’t always come back,” [California Community Colleges Chancellor Jack] Scott said. “We are slamming the door in the faces of students.”</p>

<p>How likely is this to happen?</p>

<p>^^ Which? The 1/3 cut for Los Rios? Here’s where I found that (about halfway down the page): [State</a> Budget Cuts Shrink Deficit, Student Enrollment at Community Colleges - Carmichael, CA Patch](<a href=“http://carmichael.patch.com/articles/state-budget-cuts-shrink-deficit-student-enrollment-at-community-colleges]State”>http://carmichael.patch.com/articles/state-budget-cuts-shrink-deficit-student-enrollment-at-community-colleges)</p>

<p>If you mean, how likely is it that higher education in California will soon be unavailable and unaffordable for vast numbers of students? – that is certain. The only question is how bad it’s going to be.</p>

<p>Ugh, this is ridiculous. If the tuition actually doubles, the financial aid will probably shrink if Jerry Brown actually lives up to his scare tactics.</p>

<p>We were CA residents until 6 years ago. Went to the frozen land of Cheese-head for a job opportunity. Wanted to return. But need the justification and opportunity. For someone who does not care about the Golden State, why he/she would comment?</p>

<p>Not only am I a second-generation Californian, but the daughter of a UC alumnus, an alumnus of UC myself with a D at a UC, and a community college instructor. The California Higher education Master Plan, created in the 1960s, had these aims:</p>

<p>UC was to select from among the top one-eighth (12.5%) of the high school graduating class.
(primarily a research institution and law, medicine, dentistry,veterinary)</p>

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<li><p>CSU was to select from among the top one-third (33.3%) of the high school graduating class.
(primary mission to provide professional and teacher education)</p></li>
<li><p>California Community Colleges were to admit any student capable of benefiting from instruction
(primary mission to provide the first two years of undergraduate instruction as well as remedial and non-credit instruction)</p></li>
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<p>Of course, California has changed in the last 50 years, especially the demographics, and there is no longer room in the 9 UCs that accept undergraduates, no longer room in the CSUs, no longer room in the community colleges. With massive cuts in funding rather than increases to go along with the increasing population, they have to either become more selective or turn students away. And blaming this on illegal immigrants is ridiculous- you do need papers to register, and the Dream Act hasn’t been passed.
And yes, community colleges are cutting, cutting, cutting- at my campus, in the summer and fall, there will probably be no adjunct faculty teaching sections, which is probably 40% of our teaching staff. Our summer session wasn’t cut this time, but others are having to do that. Our budget will be reduced by 8 million in the worst-case scenario. New students will have a heck of a time getting any classes at all.
Who suffers? We all do, because a state full of uneducated, unskilled youth is the wrong direction for some many reasons. We’ll pay in the long run for not educating our children.
But bankers (whom we bailed out) expect to get 10 percent higher bonuses and corporate profits are up 35%.</p>

<p>Is it just me who thinks that making more external money available never solves any financial problems at the government level? I see a new stream of fresh money creating new spending far more predictably than reducing shortfalls, or reducing debt other than perhaps in the very short term.</p>

<p>I agree with you, Dadof3. Its time for the UCs to put all their courses online for free. Then those students who really, really want the UC education can put their efforts where their mouths are.</p>

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<p>Except that is factually incorrect. There is plenty of room in Merced. Heck, there is so much available room at other UC campuses that The Regents are recruiting wealthy OOS kids. Sure, they may pay 2x as much, but the Chancellors have made clear that these OOS’ers are not displacing California residents. (I personally don’t believe it for a second, but that is the official spin, given to us by the same folks claiming a need for fee raises…)</p>

<p>re: UC goal of top 12.5%…internal UC studies show its closer to 14%…according to the Master Plan design that 1.5% extra would be better served at a Cal State or community college/transfer. The costs to educate someone at a UC is significantly higher than at a Cal State which is significantly higher than at a juco.</p>

<p>dad: UCs do have a directive to go online quickly.</p>

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<p>What you perceive as “hate”, others might perceive as genuine suggestions for new policy. Perhaps its time for 'thinking outside the box". We could look at 49 others states for ideas, instead of our one-size-fits-all policy. Does it really make sense to charge the same price for Merced as for UCSD?</p>

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<p>You live in Calilfornia. You’ve seen the numbers. Since taxes are apparently off the table, we are going to have to balance the budget by cutting services. If you dispute that, please cite sources.</p>

<p>Since you don’t want tuition raised or FA cut, how – exactly, please – would you make up the shortfall?</p>

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<p>If the tuition doubles it will not only increase student services at UC but will also provide more Financial Aid to the needy.</p>

<p>I think more than Jerry Brown you are trying to scare the public by making such comments. It has always been the scare tactics by raising the point of Financial Aid.</p>

<p>Everything remaining same, doubling of tuition can only increase the Financial Aid and increase the standard of instructions at UCs.</p>

<p>^^ What on earth gives you that idea? California is sinking fast. Tuition increases and FA cuts mean that the UCs might be able to survive, not flourish.</p>