<p>@CSB111
That’s what I thought when I applied last year because i had the [false] assumption that they were looking for the best of the best or the brightest of the bright but that isn’t the case at all. </p>
<p>To elaborate, if an applicant sells themselves too hard they will be rejected, inversely if they don’t sell themselves enough they will also be rejected, so the content in the essay has to be a careful balancing act. Or in other words you need to be hella lucky to strike that balance. </p>
<p>Then their is the issue of institutional requirements such as diversity (20% UMR for transfers v 7% for Cal applicants), or what you alluded to, a certain number of spots are reserved for intl students who pay full tuition. </p>
<p>PM me and I’ll show you some of the essays of people who were accepted and rejected. </p>
<p>P.S. plus there are also some other ‘unscrupulous’ tactics I’ve seen people use i.e. staying at CC an extra year so they can apply with no classes in-progress.</p>
<p>@cayton I really liked your comment about ‘correlation doesn’t equal causation’, there is actually a Mathematical proofs that debunk such fallacy… I think you are meant to be a Statistics major… any chance of you switching to the south side??
Btw, as you may be aware even at UCLA you will get those kinds of comments. </p>
<p>@bomerr some of your analysis may have merit. I agree that engineers are used like work horse (hence why I am going from STEM to business) but when you start accusing people that they got admitted by race then you start sounding ignorant. I myself am a URM, and I am willing to bet that I was the beneficiary of Holistic admissions. However once at UCLA I always managed to beat the curve (once I even got the highest score in the final). does that mean I don’t belong at UCLA?? </p>
<p>@jassingh73 Getting into Haas will be crapshoot… however If you want to get your MBA just know that the road for MBA does not run through Haas. There are other ways to achieve that goal…</p>
<p>Haha, nah, I could never major in statistics or anything like that.</p>
<p>But as a philosophy major, it’s important to know about the idea that correlation doesn’t equal causation. It’s an important principle in logic, science, and math. :)</p>
<p>And if anyone at UCLA thinks I got in because I’m black, I’m just going to have to put them in their place as I always do with people who advance bad arguments. B-) </p>
<p>@Dagoberto This may be off topic, but are there any statistics classes that are proof based at UCLA? I saw the course listing, but I am not sure.</p>
<p>@CollegeDropout1 … Stats 100B is probably the first proof based class, you get to see why the population standard devision is different of sample standard devision (has to do with biased estimators). You can also see (and prove) how distributions are related. Stats 100C deals with more complex stuff (they inject Linear Algera to the class). From there on there are both applied and proof based classes.</p>
<p>However if you want a more ‘rigorous’ stats class you can take Math 170AB. As a Math/Econ I had the choice to take the stats or math version (any sane person would take the stats version). However current Math/Econ majors are not afforded that luxury, they have to take the Math Statistics classes.</p>
<p>To answer the original question, going to either community college makes absolutely no difference to Haas.</p>
<p>@bomerr Please get over not getting accepted and acting like you have some sort of an idea of what it takes to get in because if you did you would have.</p>
<p>I only say this because I got admitted yet contradict all of your “advice”. I am white, in-state, wealthy background with MBA parents, wrote my essays on my successes (not a sob story), and did not have really any business experience. </p>
<p>My advice for Haas is really hit on the defining principles whenever you can throughout all your essays, resume and not just the Haas one. I am no admissions officer, but I get the feeling that having good stats get you so far with them. They seem to be looking for people who are the right fit, which defining principles seem to outline: “Question the status quo”, “Students always”, “Beyond yourself”, and “Confidence without attitude”.</p>
<p>@bomerr I have been wondering for a while, just curious. I believe you got accepted to USC, correct? Then why are you even on this UC thread? Why are you wasting time? It looks weird. Why aren’t you on the USC thread? It would be like getting accepted to Harvard and spending all your time on the Stanford thread attacking it, or getting accepted to UCI, but spending all your time on the UC Davis thread attacking it. It doesn’t make you look like you have a good life, or anything going for you. You’re not part of the UC community, in fact you hate everything about the UCs - so a well-adjusted person would just move on and not waste time over something they see as worthless and inferior. Based on your “supposed” sentiments, your actions show the real situation: the UCs clearly have a much greater power than you are admitting as you are incapable of walking away. You’re not coming off in a strong light. It’s elementary psychology.</p>
<p>And stats, FYI, white, from an affluent area, with a UC degree - and my daughter got in. </p>
<p>Anyway, I wish you the best of luck in your pursuits, I have nothing against you, you seem nice enough, but I believe you would be happier if you just accept that sometimes, for reasons unknown, things just don’t go as planned. Dwelling on the what ifs, and analyzing minutiae ad nauseum just holds you back from your potential.</p>
<p>I haven’t been here on these forums for a while, but man @bommer your comments are so full of ignorance and hatred… I’m sorry for saying this, but, thank god UCLA and UCB didn’t accept you and your mentality of “what it takes to make it into the top UCs.” Just move on with your life and enjoy your acceptance to USC… @Cayton you’re the best! </p>
<p>Also, I think it could be a possibility that Haas might give some weight to people in the local area. It stimulates the “local” economy -technically, if they stay- and there could be a track record of people who apply from SoCal not completing the SIR. It is really hard for individuals to just uproot their whole life and move far away, especially being older, as a transfer student. If there is a track record of SoCal students not following through, they may want to give more spots to people in NorCal to avoid missing their admissions target- this is all pure speculation. Furthermore, people in the Berkeley area could have better guidance on what it takes to actually get into Haas and help with their application; local counselors could have built relationships to Haas admissions to give their student an edge. </p>
<p>@jassingh73 to answer your question I think either school is good. I’m finishing up at Citrus right now, and although I didn’t get into Haas I was still able to finish up all their prereqs within 2 years</p>
<p>I agree @jewbacca that statistically there are higher enrollments of people who live near a particular UC. That crosses all lines. Way more people choose a campus closer to where they live. Just look at the transfer stats by community college and it is clear that the closer the CC to a UC, the more applicants. So hypothetically, if 800 NorCal students apply to Haas and 80 get in, that’s 10%. If 200 SoCal students apply and 20 get in, that’s 10%. So the acceptance rates could be pretty similar, although they might appear skewed. </p>
<p>You can’t draw any firm conclusions based solely on final numbers. Also, I have heard (but only anecdotally), that Cal will consciously try to recruit from SoCal and UCLA from NorCal. This is based on ppl who got acceptances to just one (they lived in opposite areas), so it’s all conjecture. And also, yeah freshmen at Berkeley will obviously get preference, which is only right.</p>
<p>Sadly, I don’t think @bomerr got into USC or else he would not be applying again. He said in one of his posts that he is applying again for USC price. He is just an entitled man who thinks the world owes him a living. I’ve never see n anyone post on here with so much hate and discontent in their body. </p>
<p>If that was an option on the application, I almost certainly selected it, but I don’t remember now lol</p>
<p>And that certainly is a possibility, what you’re saying about Haas. Hell, it makes a lot of sense the way you put it. Unfortunately, we’ll never really know until Berkeley’s business school wants us to.</p>
<p>@ucastell </p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words, man.</p>
<p>Have you visited the Berkeley campus yet and had your orientation and all that other stuff?</p>
<p>Some of @bomerr’s problem, I think, is that he’s not a native english speaker. As such, he might not understand how arrogant and insulting he often is. </p>
<p>@Cayton, no problem! I have visited three times, the last time I went to Cal was the week before decisions came out and I fell in love with the school haha luckily I was able to get in I have orientation until June 27 but I can’t wait to go through two years of academic hell lol jk How about you? Have you signed up for classes etc? </p>
<p>That’s great to hear! And I’m sure you’ll be fine…just don’t slack off too much and I think you’ll survive, lol</p>
<p>My UCLA orientation is in August(I think it’s the 15th, don’t remember, really). I’ll be able to sign up for classes then.</p>
<p>Are you dorming at Berkeley? I will at UCLA. Pretty excited to have the authentic university experience, even if it’s only for a couple of years. :P</p>
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but I can’t wait to go through two years of academic hell lol jk How about you? Have you signed up for classes etc? </p>