My kid told me that Sosc. is her favorite class! Guess she’s fitting in just fine!
My D is undecided on major, but was going in with an expectation on STEM. Her favorite course right now is humanities as well.
Two additional factors about standardized test scoring. ACT has a ceiling, so perhaps more kids are hitting it. The population of students opting to take the ACT has changed, with more students from the NE now taking it. NE used to stigmatize it as an inferior test to the SAT for those applying to the Ivies.
Yes, my D is having the time of her life…but midterms are yet to come.
UChicago 4 in the US (ahead of Wharton, Columbia and Yale) in business and economics ranking of Times Higher Education just out. Also 4th in Law (ahead of Harvard and Penn and way ahead of Columbia) 4th in humanities ranking (ahead of Yale and Columbia) 5th in social sciences (ahead of Yale and Columbia etc.) Ahead of Yale, Penn and Columbia in all subject rankings just out.
Waiting for @Penn95 @Cue7 to bash this ranking as well. But at some point you have to wake up and smell the humus.
I will pave the way: That Duke made first in law ranking and Yale 3 with Harvard at 7 does undermine the law ranking …
I’ll say. But that’s OK, because Chicago is pretty clearly the #4 law school. Unless Duke is #1 and Harvard #7. Then it couldn’t be lower than, say, -10.
Look, sorry. These ratings are stupid. They’re stupid when we don’t like the outcome, and they’re stupid when we do. It’s really not worth bragging about success in these things or complaining about underrating.
and yet everybody does. that’s why USNWR rules. It reflects the general conventional wisdom pretty well.
Except wrt UChicago, LOL,
No, not everybody does, @Chrchill, believe it or not. Compare the forums (fora?) for HYPS on this site. With the exception of one or two Stanford boosters, only the UChicago nudniks (and you, sir, with respect, are Nudnik-in-Chief) obsess about this stuff.
DeepBlue-as a follower of the board your ad hominem attack on Chrchill bothers me.
Yeah @Chrchill stop being so uncool by citing data. You’re embarrassing the HYPS wannabes.
You are a Manhattanite, then:
- Columbia is clearly #4, and NYU #5.
- There is no there-there past the Hudson.
@DeepBlue86 when all else fails, engage in personal attacks. And if you seek to assault me with Yiddish, at least know how to spell the word correctly. It’s Nudnick
@kaukauna Thanks for standing up for the humble and downtrodden 
Respect
My point stands, @Chrchill. Princeton has been ranked #1 by US News for years. I’m quite sure that a lot of Harvard, Yale and Stanford fans disagree. Yet somehow, with very few exceptions, you don’t see them on CC feverishly seeking out rankings to cite in order to prove the injustice of it all. Could it be that they…don’t care?
If you read my calling you a nudnik in this context as a personal attack, I apologize for my word choice. I stand by my spelling of the word, though, which seems to be preferred in the various dictionaries cited when I Google the term. Perhaps we can agree on נודניק, which is certainly correct. 
@DeepBlue86 if you don’t like threads that discuss rankings then don’t read them.
Aren’t you being just a tad humorless, @DeepBlue86 ? A close reader and parser of the collected works of @Chrchill shouldn’t fail to appreciate the strain of frolicsome bombast therein. That ain’t a bad thing from time to time on a board heavily larded with solemn analysis and useful information.
Data? Where?
Discussion? “Chicago [one might substitute “Stanford” here for obvious reasons] outperformed some schools in this ranking, so Chicago is better than those schools; Chicago did poorly in this ranking, so let’s ignore it” is hardly a “discussion.” I’ll start you a discussion: “rankings have methodologies…some methodologies trump others…some have no method…others have no logia…and most of them belong in the rubbish bin.”
@Parapraxes, if YOU don’t like threads that discuss rankings - or you disagree with how those discussions proceed - then YOU needn’t read the thread either.
Rankings are data points.
Endless threads like these drive people away and leave others with a negative impression of the school. And that’s a shame because AFAICT the conversations that dominate here bear very little resemblance to discussions on campus.