UChicago in Top 5 in Fulbrights

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<p>I don't think anyone already posted this. If they did, please sue me. Thank you.</p>

<p>Top</a> Producers of U.S. Fulbright Students by Type of Institution, 2011-12 - International - The Chronicle of Higher Education</p>

<p>October 23, 2011
Top Producers of U.S. Fulbright Students by Type of Institution, 2011-12
Research Institutions Number of awards Number of applicants
U. of Michigan at Ann Arbor 29 148
Northwestern U. 27 102
Yale U. 26 122
Stanford U. 25 93
U. of Chicago 25 151
U. of Washington 24 83
Columbia U. 23 88
Boston College 21 73
Harvard U. 20 107
Arizona State U. 18 57
U. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 18 87
Johns Hopkins U. 16 59
U. of Arizona 16 63
U. of Maryland at College Park 16 41
George Washington U. 15 66
Georgetown U. 15 60
Brown U. 14 76
Cornell U. 14 68
Princeton U. 14 74
Rutgers U. 14 94
U. of Pennsylvania 14 89
U. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 13 60
U. of Louisville 13 39
U. of Pittsburgh 13 38
U. of California at Berkeley 12 73
U. of Notre Dame 12 56
Emory U. 11 45
U. of Kansas 11 27
U. of Wisconsin at Madison 11 59
Washington U. in St. Louis 11 47
College of William and Mary 10 57
U. of Florida 10 47
Duke U. 9 46
Fordham U. 9 44
New York U. 9 65
Ohio U. 9 28
San Diego State U. 9 42
Tufts U. 9 43
U. of California at Los Angeles 9 50
U. of Colorado at Boulder 9 28
U. of Georgia 9 46
U. of Nebraska at Lincoln 9 34</p>

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<p>pretty interesting also that applicants from uchicago (school with the most applicants) were the least likely to get accepted for the scholarship…
I don’t think that looks too favorably on the school.</p>

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<p>This is a pretty stupid statement. Try to learn elementary logic. It simply says A LOT more Chicago students are applying proportionally speaking that is. Maybe it’s the “in” thing to do in Chicago to try this out and apply anyway, while in other schools, it may occur to do to so to only a tiny fraction of the students.</p>

<p>A better gauge is what proportion of students are getting Fullbright.</p>

<p>For instance,
U of Michigan: 29 winners out of 27000 undergraduate student. 0.11%
U Chicago: 25 out of 5000 undergrate students: 0.48%
Northwestern: 27 out of 8900 students. 0.3%
Yale: 26 out of 5300: 0.49%
Stanford: 25 out of 6900 students. 0.36%
columbia: 0.39%
Harvard: 0.3%</p>

<p>OK. you get the idea.</p>

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<p>um, I think you’re the one using “stupid” logic…</p>

<p>Why should it matter how many students attend a given university if, in the case of uchicago, a whopping 151 kids applied but only 25 got the scholarship!? That is an acceptance rate of .16%, below even the likes of UKansas where almost 41% of their kids got the scholarship. That is a far more impressive statistic to me and most others, no? It is a pretty strong inference that the committee is not too impressed with the caliber of applicants from chicago or perhaps the school…</p>

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<p>Exactly, and the metric one should use to compare is the one I just outlined above…</p>

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<p>[Top</a> U.S. Producers of Fulbright Students, by Type of Institutions, 2009-10 - Global - The Chronicle of Higher Education](<a href=“Top U.S. Producers of Fulbright Students, by Type of Institutions, 2009-10”>Top U.S. Producers of Fulbright Students, by Type of Institutions, 2009-10)</p>

<p>Top U.S. Producers of Fulbright Students, by Type of Institutions, 2009-10
Research institutions Number of awards Number of applicants
Northwestern U. 32 109
U. of Chicago 31 128
Brown U. 29 106
Stanford U. 28 87
U. of Michigan at Ann Arbor 28 111
Yale U. 25 92
Columbia U. 23 84
George Washington U. 23 74
Harvard U. 23 97
Boston College 21 68
Arizona State U. at Tempe 18 58
Princeton U. 18 69
U. of California at Berkeley 18 84
U. of Pennsylvania 18 88
Indiana U. at Bloomington 14 46
U. of Minnesota-Twin Cities 14 39
U. of Wisconsin at Madison 14 58
Fordham U. 13 44
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 13 26
Cornell U. 12 73
U. of Washington 12 47
Duke U. 11 38
U. of Arizona 11 48
U. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 11 48
U. of Texas at Austin 11 42
Dartmouth College 10 34
Georgetown U. 10 36
Ohio State U. 10 38
Rutgers U. at New Brunswick 10 47
Washington U. in St. Louis 10 29
U. of California at Los Angeles 9 42
U. of Florida 9 36
College of William and Mary 8 23
Ohio U. at Athens 8 22
Tufts U. 8 47
U. of Georgia 8 32
U. of Massachusetts at Amherst 8 18
U. of Oregon 8 25
U. of Southern California 8 51</p>

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<p>trollnyc: Nope. If they weren’t impressed by the caliber of the students, why wouldn’t they have awarded as many as they did? Your metric neglects the fact that a) many, many more students applied from UChicago than from many of the other schools and b) it’s very likely that the school each student came from mattered; that is, they had a ceiling on the number of scholarships per school to give out. If you’re going to go calculating percentages to determine the worth of schools (which I wouldn’t advise in any case), science fiction’s method would indeed be a bit more valid.</p>

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<p>Sorry for the necro, but I thought this would be worth an update (and a BUMP)</p>

<p>The rankings for 2012-2013 are in (rather, have been in since the past three months)
[Top</a> Producers of U.S. Fulbright Students by Type of Institution, 2012-13 - Global - The Chronicle of Higher Education](<a href=“Top Producers of U.S. Fulbright Students by Type of Institution, 2012-13”>Top Producers of U.S. Fulbright Students by Type of Institution, 2012-13)</p>

<p>Rankings (09-10/10-11/11-12)
UChicago 2/5/4
Northwestern U 1/2/9
Brown 3/17/3 (wonder what happened in 10-11)
Stanford 4/4/15
Yale 6/3/6
UMich 5/1/1</p>

<p>Total Number of Scholars in the last 3 years: (a more revealing metric)</p>

<p>UMich 97
Northwestern U 81
UChicago 80
Harvard 74
Yale 74
Brown 72
Stanford 68</p>

<p>And now (contrary to what Trollnyc suggests) the most revealing metric*, Ratio of scholars to students:
(Note I have taken the number of enrolled students for any one year and multiplied that by three. I am aware of the inaccuracies this methodology may create, and invite my fellow CC’ers to take out the time and perform the calculations in a more meticulous manner)</p>

<p>UChicago 80/3840 = 0.021
Yale 74/3950 = 0.018
Brown 72/4600 = 0.015
Harvard 74/5400 = 0.013
Northwestern 81/6340 = 0.012
Stanford 68/5160 = 0.013
UMich 97/20500 = 0.004 </p>

<p>@trollnyc
I think this:
“pretty interesting also that applicants from uchicago (school with the most applicants) were the least likely to get accepted for the scholarship…”
is ridiculous. It is the devoid of accuracy (both in truth- there are schools which suffer a lower “likelihood” as defined by trollnyc- and insight- his definition of likelihood is narrow)</p>

<p>Let me extend trollnyc’s arguement to make the following statement:
<statement>
U. of California at San Francisco and William Mitchell College of Law are the best places to get a fullbright because, in the 2012-13 period, they have a 100% rate for fullbright scholars! In fact, a student at either of these institutions is several fold more likely to win a grant than a student from Harvard, Yale, or (dare-I-say-it) Chicago!
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<p>Chicago’s higher number of applicants, if anything, indicates that several people at Chicago consider themselves (and are considered by their peers, instructors and advisers) as good candidates for the scholarship. This is nothing but positive for the college and only a true demagogue (tip-o-the-hat) could obfuscate this fact.</p>

<p>Anyways, Chicago, in the 12-13 period, had 102 applicants, as compared to 132 from Harvard and 141 from UMich. Northwestern had 101 and Yale and Berkeley had 97/98…Trollnyc, even you must concede your argument is (at least now) invalid.</p>

<p>*I herald this as the most revealing metric because it makes only one simple assumption. No one who would have won the fullbright scholarship, missed out on applying. This is a pretty good assumption. Once we take that into account, in a sense every student at the school is a potential fullbright applicant, and the number of applicants from each school is only limited by self-selection amongt the students.
(correct me if I’m wrong about that though…)</p>