UChicago unveils new residence hall and dining commons

<p>I felt compelled to create a new thread on this topic because of the negative subject heading of the other thread. Please post thoughts on the design here. If possible, view the webcast: <a href="http://news.uchicago.edu/webcast/arc...residence-hall%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://news.uchicago.edu/webcast/arc...residence-hall&lt;/a> </p>

<p>I think the design is brilliant -- extremely well thought-out and destined to be a real selling point for future prospective students. University</a> unveils new residence hall and dining commons | The University of Chicago</p>

<p>I applaud Jeanne Gang for her design. I absolutely love it! Super proud of my alma mater today. Class of 2020 is blessed!</p>

<p>Where do they get the $148 million? I’m pretty sure Cue7 will not be giving it.</p>

<p>Also, will it be ready the start of the 2016/17 school year? Didn’t see that anywhere.</p>

<p>It’s expected to open 2016 so probably 2016/17 year like you said. I am in love with the design!</p>

<p>I won’t contribute a penny to this. </p>

<p>Aesthetics aside (which I dislike), whether you like it or not, the new dorm encourages strong opinions - good and bad. Given all of the bad press relating to UChicago and it’s lack of a trauma 1 medical center, along with continued strained relations with the rest of the southside, this dorm, in some ways, represents a curved, oblong middle finger to the community. </p>

<p>I wonder how south side residents will feel when they drive down 55th st and see this albatross. This was not the time to make a bold statement with a new dormitory. Something nice, something handsome, something less polarizing would have been appropriate. </p>

<p>The interior spaces are all fine and as expected - have lots of communal spaces, lounges, nice reading rooms, etc.</p>

<p>The exterior invites strong opinion. I hate it, maybe others don’t, but it’s hard to be apathetic. This was a bad time to build a polarizing dormitory. </p>

<p>In the videos, the architect says the North dorm will be the “front door” to the university. Is this a front door that will appeal to the majority of viewers? Some might really like it, others (like myself and those I’ve shown the pics and videos to) might hate it. A front door to a center of learning should not be this alienating or polarizing - it should be generally welcoming to all.</p>

<p>Seriously it’s rare for me to be this vehement but I’m ashamed for my alma mater today. This will cause further consternation with south side residents while creating a polarizing “front door.” What is wrong with a more traditional dormitory? This houses students. Why the need to pay a premium for an expensive modernist architect? </p>

<p>This is awful.</p>

<p>My favorite social media comment so far about the new dorm:</p>

<p>“It can’t possibly look worse than Pierce, but it looks like it’s trying.”</p>

<p>^No, when they drive down 55th, they will say, “yay more retail options”</p>

<p>Really, trapezius? You think most on the south side mainly hope that UChicago opens up some more retail options on 55th? </p>

<p>Have you heard general sentiment about the university in the greater community area? I’d say at best the relationship has ambivalence, and at worst, inspires considerable vitriol from many south side residents (outside the haven of Hyde Park - but even for some within it).</p>

<p>I am well aware of all those issues. But this has nothing to do with any of that. They didnt knock down any neighborhood buildings or take over any land to build something. They are knocking down a dorm to build a new dorm.</p>

<p>Another great social media comment:</p>

<p>“Yikes! Looks like the architect had a bad case of vertigo.”</p>

<p>This architect designed the Aqua building in downtown Chicago: [Aqua</a> (skyscraper) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_(skyscraper)]Aqua”>Aqua (skyscraper) - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>That’s fine for downtown - but why bring that sort of architecture to Hyde Park? This is a dormitory - not a luxe skyscraper designed to add to the Chicago skyline. There’s no need for this.</p>

<p>Again, tremendously disappointed with such an approach for a dormitory. Make it handsome, functional, connected to the surrounding community architecture, with lots of communal space for students. That’s all that was needed.</p>

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<p>Wow… just wow. Never thought a physical entity could arouse this much hatred! None of my friends felt it is “polarizing”. Reactions were unanimously positive, but we wouldn’t go in length to praise the design either.</p>

<p>Trapezius,</p>

<p>And by knocking down a dorm to build a new dorm, they had the opportunity to simply create better living space for students without raising any undue eye rolls or further consternation from the greater community. Social media posters are already talking about the need for a new trauma center, and designing such a gaudy dorm won’t help matters at all.</p>

<p>Why bother taking the chance to ruffle more feathers for little gain?</p>

<p>Poplicola,</p>

<p>I’m so frustrated because the destruction of Pierce was such a tremendous opportunity for the university, and they squandered it. I saw the pictures of the new dorm, read the stories, saw all the youtube videos, and then just did a facepalm. </p>

<p>All UChicago needed was a charming, welcoming portal on the north to the rest of the university. Something that jives with the rest of the surrounding architecture would be just fine. </p>

<p>Look at the recent residence halls constructed at Duke (<a href=“https://plus.google.com/116716695368502903076/posts/dRpp5noXxq6[/url]”>https://plus.google.com/116716695368502903076/posts/dRpp5noXxq6&lt;/a&gt;) or Princeton ([Whitman</a> College of Princeton University](<a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/whitmancollege/]Whitman”>Whitman College)) or Vanderbilt ([Changing</a> Landscape | Vanderbilt View | myVU | Vanderbilt University](<a href=“http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2012/04/college-halls-breaks-ground/]Changing”>Changing Landscape | Vanderbilt University))</p>

<p>Each dormitory remains in sync with the general architecture on campus. At least, then, UChicago’s new dorm could’ve been in sync with the surrounding buildings or surrounding neighborhood. </p>

<p>Instead, the planners opted for a much funkier design that doesn’t connote a signature space. </p>

<p>Again, this is an awful decision to me, and one that makes me cool considerably on the College. It makes me wish that UChicago had the clear identity or continuity of purpose found at Princeton or Duke or wherever. </p>

<p>(For an article on why UChicago may have gone in this direction - in an attempt to break with its past “where fun comes to die” rep, see here: [Jeanne</a> Gang To Build Dorm That’s Googleplex-Meets-Hogwarts | Co.Design: business + innovation + design](<a href=“Business Design News & Trends | Fast Company”>Business Design News & Trends | Fast Company))</p>

<p>More great social media quotes, which demonstrate that the new dorm is polarizing (i.e. some people really like it, some people really don’t):</p>

<p>“Why not make a building that fits with the existing architecture on campus?”</p>

<p>“There is no existing architecture on campus anymore.”</p>

<p>“we have(had) a traditional/historic campus, and it’s slowly losing it’s character”</p>

<p>“Bring back the Gargoyles. This has no soul.”</p>

<p>I agree with these comments - what is the university’s signature style? I used to think of gothic, but it’s losing that more and more.</p>

<p>Having watched a couple of videos released by the University last week, I understand why the University picked a modern design for the new dorm. The video with President Zimmer, particularly the part about the evolution and constancy of the institution, helped me understand the administration’s vision for the University.</p>

<p>[Conversation</a> with President Robert J. Zimmer - YouTube](<a href=“Conversation with President Robert J. Zimmer - YouTube”>Conversation with President Robert J. Zimmer - YouTube)</p>

<p>By the way, Jeanne Gang talked today about some technical challenges that make gothic designs non-feasible in modern architecture. Due to those technical challenges, gothic architecture is almost impossible to create nowadays. Even Yale’s new residential colleges are not gothic. Unauthentic replicas are exuberantly expensive. Did you not watch the livestream?</p>

<p>[New</a> Residence Hall and Dining Commons Design Unveiling - YouTube](<a href=“Studio Gang's New Hyde Park Residence Hall and Dining Commons Design Unveiling - Jeanne Gang - YouTube”>Studio Gang's New Hyde Park Residence Hall and Dining Commons Design Unveiling - Jeanne Gang - YouTube)</p>

<p>How is the University losing its gothic character? It hasn’t demolished a single building on the Quad. It irritates me when people 1) don’t appreciate modern architectural designs and 2) think that only gothic architecture is aesthetic. It’s also difficult for me to fathom how one building can get Cue7 so worked up that he spends an entire day writing multiple posts and bashing it, especially when it has garnered nearly universal acclaim from current students and alumni. This is starting to bother me.</p>

<p>My gosh - all the university dorms that Cue7 has linked to here and elsewhere are soooo dull. This building looks fantastic. I’m going to say it again - it looks effin fantastic!</p>

<p>Poplicola:</p>

<p>I had seen the livestream, but not Zimmer’s comments from last year’s alumni weekend. Zimmer’s comments, especially the ones about Mansueto, are empty. Zimmer talks about bucking the trend and building more library space on campus, and that’s great. He also mentions constancy (importance of library space) with evolution (e.g. re-thinking what a library should be).</p>

<p>Frankly, I question that central premise. Would building a gothic library outfitted with the mechanical arm found in Mansueto be that different a balance between constancy and evolution as building a space age library with the same mechanical arm? I’d argue that the gothic library with such updated interior mechanisms is actually more true to the university’s heritage that the purely modernist structure. </p>

<p>Put another way, none of Zimmer’s points validated the need to embrace modernist architecture. He justifies the needs for certain types of structures (e.g. a library with a robotic arm, a new molecular engineering space), but such needs do NOT mandate the creation of modernist exteriors. I think a much more fascinating idea would be to take the more modern needs of some spaces (e.g. collaborative arts spaces, robotics inside libraries) and link them more strongly with the university’s initial architectural heritage. </p>

<p>Also, please note, it’s not just one building that’s gotten me so worked up. Rather, to me, this seems like the last straw in a long line of poor architectural decisions. The university’s general stance, over the past several decades, has been to embrace acclaimed architects that appear to be in vogue. From Saarinen to Gang today, whatever new modern theme exists, UChicago will find room for it on campus. </p>

<p>Outside of a precious few exceptions (a new Oriental Institute wing, expansion of the new economics institute), more classical styles of exterior architecture have been categorically ignored. Every new major space - from the Reg to Cummings to the new business school to dormitories - embrace some form of modern architecture. </p>

<p>For an occasional building, this wouldn’t be so bad. Heck, even to mix it up a bit - for each new modern structure, one new gothic structure - that wouldn’t be too bad either. Almost categorically, however, every new major building project incorporates architecture that is a far cry from the gothic heart of the university. Such decisions really add up over time, and, when enough of these new buildings pile up, really create ambiguity about the architectural theme of the university as a whole.</p>

<p>Finally, regarding Gang’s talk on the livestream, I was frustrated with it, and found parts of it to be insulting. She first talked about the new dorm being “urban” and part of Chicago. She also, toward the end, talked about how Hyde Park is “becoming” a great place to live, and university folks aren’t rushing to live downtown. I don’t know if she’s overly inclined toward downtown Chicago, but Hyde Park has distinctive (albeit less “big city downtown urban”) architecture and a distinct feel. Her new massive, unsightly high rise apt building on 53rd st cuts against this grain, and she’s openly talked about trying to make Hyde Park more “urban”. UChicago should think of itself as first part of Hyde Park. Immediately linking to downtown Chicago (as this new dorm apparently tries to do) is a mistake. </p>

<p>From what I can tell with past projects, the university has 3 goals with new building projects:</p>

<p>1.) make the interior space functional (as has been the case with Logan, Mansueto, etc., and has been a worthwhile goal)</p>

<p>2.) Retain highly acclaimed, modern architects (Gang, etc.) - architects that can make a splash and make news</p>

<p>3.) Keep costs moderate (e.g. the spending on this dorm - $150M - is not lavish. Mansueto was not a lavish expenditure, and South dorms needed to cut costs</p>

<p>I think priority #1 is valid, but #2 and #3 seem at odds with each other, and I am puzzled by UChicago’s constant retention of “big name” architects. The university has a more moderate budget, which implies that it shouldn’t always retain those who may charge a premium. Generally, the administration seems to want to make waves and news with its architecture - whether it’s a library or a dorm. I think such a goal should be much, much farther down the list of priorities (well behind staying true - to whatever extent possible - to the heart of the university). Even UChicago lab school has gone in this direction.</p>

<p>It’s just sad.</p>

<p>I looked at some of the links provided by Cue7. Did you notice that $200 M of the $500 M budgeted for the Yale dorms is for the three towers alone? Wow. Must be nice to have no financial constraints.</p>

<p>Cue7 I understand and appreciate the concerns you’ve expressed. My own opinion is that the new dorm looks fine and the architect explained how the design relates to the Gothic core of UChicago to my satisfaction. Was it an adequate explanation? For me yes. </p>

<p>I have a hunch though that employing famous (and excellent) architects is a canny decision. How much more valuable will it be in 30 years to point to Mansueto and say, “that was designed by Helmut Jahn” instead of, “that was designed by C. Ment Blaque” or some such unknown designer? </p>

<p>My gut tells me that given the constraints of place, financial resources / long term value, time, and architectural cohesion, the new dorm design was the right choice. Now lets hope the constructor builds the thing well and on time.</p>

<p>I love it! The outside is alright, but the inside looks amazing! I’ll have to visit it sometime!</p>

<p>I am not surprised that they built a glass / stainless steel / wood cube. Essentially, every school with heavy stone architecture is forced to do so. LSE, Columbia, Oxford and Cambridge have all made one-off investments along these lines lately. Admittedly, add too many of these buildings and your campus starts to look like a carbon copy of a silicon valley office park, but the best that can be hoped for is something like the expansion of Harvard and MIT which have preserved the historical core of each campus while allowing for major expansion. By the same token, if you take a walk around the medical center / BSD buildings at Chicago you have to admit they are pretty striking. </p>

<p>Also, the caparisons to Duke and Princeton are a reach. The buildings there are not large stone construction akin to the Chicago quads but essentially small stone bricks with prettied up concrete in between that is supposed to look like limestone / granite as the case may be. The Princeton building was a huge cost overrun as well and the administration has already said “never again.” It also looks really fake when you are there in person. Alas, one of the advantages to the neo-Georgian look at Hopkins or the colonial vibe at Stanford is that both are cheap to replicate.</p>