https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2019/04/25/measles-quarantine-ucla-cal-state-los-angeles/
When will the anti-vaxxers learn?? The CDC reports that number of measles cases is the highest in the US since it was eliminated in the US in 2000 (that sounds funny, but you know what they mean) https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2019/s0424-highest-measles-cases-since-elimination.html
UCLA requires all students to have certain vaccinations, including the MMR vaccine. One wonders how this student was able to slip between the cracks – and how many others have also done so.
per an article in the LATimes, the state passed a resolution in 2015 requiring all students enrolling be vaccinated, but it was not implemented until fall '18. Thus, most students (all those who enrolled prior to fall '18) are campus have not been checked for vaccination records.
This one is on UCLA Admin for not showing leadership and enforcing the rules earlier.
The news said people are quarantined if they can’t prove they’ve had two rounds of measles shots. I can’t prove that because I had the measles in 1962.
Some of our mothers didn’t keep very good records.
Luckily you aren’t at college. But you can also prove immunity with simple blood test (lab verified immunity) that would show you had it.
Really…the folks who need to worry are the ones who are not immunized. They are at risk of getting measles.
Those properly immunized don’t need to worry…as much.
I’m not in college but they are also quarantining the staff people too, and they could be older (more likely than a student)
I know you can prove immunity with a titer, but how long does that take to come back?
Can you get a measles shot and have immediate immunity? Can those in quarantine get out of jail by just getting a shot?
When my son registered in 2016 as a freshmen we were told the vaccine requirements and had to provide proof by Oct 1 deadline freshmen year or risk being dropped from classes. I guess this was not enforced for everyone.
Same requirement for my 2018 son when he registered.
@thumper1 , there are some people who cannot get immunized for medical reasons. Those are the ones most at risk from the people who choose not to for spurious reasons.
And it’s crazy that we’re still having this discussion in the 21st century. SMH.
So if a person can get tested to see if they still have sufficient antibodies to the measles virus.
The college where I teach requires students to show MMR immunity (I don’t know about the medical excuse cases). Interestingly faculty are NOT required to do so, but when I decided to take a class I had to get both of the MMR shots, since I don’t have papers. At the time it seemed silly, but I guess now I’m glad I did, although I might have have had measles and mumps as a kid.
3 years ago I had a baby and during the pregnancy, I was tested for immunity. My immunity had worn off and I was re-vaccinated right after delivery. If you were vaccinated before 1989, there is a chance you only got one dose which may have been the case for me. Of course, proper herd immunization is supposed to protect those of us who can’t get immunized, are too young or don’t have the optimal level of immunity. Doesn’t work too well when big blocks of people aren’t.
yes, a lab can perform a simple blood titer, but it can take a few days and insurance generally won’t cover the cost $75-$100.
There are other reasons that make colleges and HS fail to control vaccination. Schools only require testing in the first year. But many foreign students go back home and come back several times and don’t have to provide screening or testing (TB for example). Some students provided fake certifications.
^^ I have a daughter adopted from China. She came with an entire booklet with all the vaccination information filled out, all on the same days exactly on schedule.
Her pediatrician took one look at it and started over, but it is a perfectly legal vaccination record. In fact, those are all still part of her official record that is very long and very wide with all the boxes filled in.
@twoinanddone , don’t internationally adopted children have to do the same medical tests as other immigrants? (By a doctor certified by the US embassy?) We all had to have a schedule of vaccinations confirmed to get our visas. Some records were lost so we got redone. I must admit at the time I thought our (adults’) renewed MMRs were extraneous, but now I’m glad we got them done.
Do student visa applicants have to be vaccinated for their visas, or just for their schools? If the latter that would seem an obvious loophole.
Immigrants, including children, have to have a physical. Hers was done by a Chinese doctor in a clinic with 20 other kids and patients waiting. Lots of screaming and crying (no shots), and no big issues would have been detected but more things like lice or scabies.
Parents adopting internationally had petitioned the INS (at that time) to delay any vaccinations until they came to the US because it had been the practice to load them up on vaccination before leaving their home countries and then they traveled and were sick with fevers. Many didn’t need the vaccinations, got them again, and then the US doctors recommended more. So the rules changed to allow entry without the full sets of (or any) vaccinations.
I have a picture of me taking an oath at the Consulate. It wasn’t to adopt her, it was me swearing to vaccinate her. With the American flag in the background.
So yes and no, they need vaccinations or a promise to get them done, but there is no requirement that the quality of the vaccines was good (were they refrigerated? was the dose correct?). Her US doctor just rejected them all. Could have done titers, but the doc said to redo them and I did. The only time it was an issue was when we moved to Florida they said that her chickenpox vaccines were given at the wrong intervals because she got her second only 2 years after the first (to go to K) but that isn’t a required vaccine so I didn’t redo it, and I think she had the chickenpox.
@twoinanddone , the medical procedure i went through, and others I know, is very different to what you describe. (They specifically look for big issues, like TB, not things like lice.) The doctor you describe doesn’t sound like someone who would be a currently approved US “panel doctor”. Either uscis (INS hasn’t existed for years under that name) has tightened up a lot since, or they are far more lenient for adopted children than other immigrants.
It was the medical clinic on the Island were the US Consulate was. All the US children went through there. They had done some testing before we arrived, but that would have been several weeks old. They weighed them, measured them, and listened to their hearts. It didn’t take but 15 minutes.
And yes, it was the INS at that time. It was 20 years ago.
The point was that even if international students come with full vaccination records it doesn’t mean they are correct. Of course a US student’s records might not be right either. For many years my kids’ records were on a little yellow card that I carried to doctor’s appointment and a nurse wrote in the vaccinations on the card. When we moved to Florida I had to take the little yellow cards to the health department and they had to transfer the information to, I kid you not, a blue card. I could have written anything I wanted to on those cards.
@twoinanddone, you’re not sure if your D had the chickenpox? Wouldn’t you have known that? If there is ANY question at this point, she should get the vaccines. No one wants to get it as an adult.