<p>where were you throughout the event? i saw the guys carrying the cs banner and the students at the end of the cs presentation, but they were the only students i saw at the event besides the housing tour guides</p>
<p>Actually, of the two students carrying the CS banner, I was the one on the right (wearing a gray UCLA Engineering T-shirt). Also, I was holding the doors open for the CS presentation room located on the right. :rolleyes:</p>
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31A: 3/10
31B: 7/10
32A: 5/10
32B: 8/10
33A: 6/10
33B: 9/10</p>
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<p>I think that 33A is harder than 6/10 .. more like 7.75/10. There's much more properties to memorize after kernels/images/basis right?</p>
<p>ah i must have seen you then =)</p>
<p>We visited UCSD and UCLA this past weekend. Both gave great engineering presentations. We wondered about MS degree at UCLA. </p>
<p>UCLA seemed to discourage the MS in 5 years plan that others (UCSD, USC...) promote by letting you start taking grad courses in your senior year.</p>
<p>Instead we heard UCLA auto admits you to grad program if you have a certain GPA, but they want you to finish the BS first, then get the MS in one add'l year. Since 70% take 5 years for BS, that's 6 total. They said you could start taking grad courses before finishing your BS, but then you'd end up with an MS but no BS.</p>
<p>Did we undertand correctly?</p>
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<p>UCLA seemed to discourage the MS in 5 years plan that others (UCSD, USC...) promote by letting you start taking grad courses in your senior year.</p>
<p>Instead we heard UCLA auto admits you to grad program if you have a certain GPA, but they want you to finish the BS first, then get the MS in one add'l year. Since 70% take 5 years for BS, that's 6 total. They said you could start taking grad courses before finishing your BS, but then you'd end up with an MS but no BS.</p>
<p>Did we undertand correctly?
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<p>Mostly. Yes, UCLA will auto-admit engineering students with at least a 3.50 GPA to the M.S. program pertaining to their majors under the Exceptional Student Admission Program (ESAP). These degrees usually take two years to complete; however, at UCLA you will get a B.S. as well as an M.S. which the 5-year M.S. programs typically do not provide. Yes, once your admission to the program is approved (usually halfway through your senior year) you can start taking graduate courses right away -- with no such penalty as you mentioned. You'll get a B.S. no matter what. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Hmmm. Do many people do this? I imagine numbers are kept down by the 3.5 GPA req't...</p>
<p>I have seen a lot of posts by prospective students who are afraid that if they major in Engineering, they will have no social life.</p>
<p>Let me assure you that is not the case at UCLA.</p>
<p>My son is a 3rd year Civil Engineering major at UCLA, he is also a member of the UCLA Bruin Marching Band, as well as a member of a Fraternity. He has tons of friends from both the band and the Fraternity, and he has also made many friends at the student chapter of the Civil Engineering Society. The most popular major in the Marching Band is Engineering. The band gets primo seats at every football and basketball game, and gets to travel to the SF Bay area every year, plus bowl games and NCAA tournament games. Last year they travelled to Notre Dame as well.</p>
<p>When my son first finished his prerequisites and took the first Intro to Civil Engineering class, the class was told by the professor that about half of the people in the major transfer to something else. I don't know if the department counts the people before or after they take the prerequisites, but according to my son, the prerequisite classes (calculus, chemistry, physics, linear algebra and differential equations) are where most of the casualties occurred.</p>
<p>As to the earlier question about comparing the difficulty of chemical vs. civil engineering, the prerequisite classes for the two majors are the same with the exception of Organic Chemistry being required for Chem. Eng.</p>
<p>Flopsy:</p>
<p>So, I'm in a major jam that I'm sure many others have found and currently find themselves in. I was admitted to Cal as Undeclared/PreBiz with the intention to enroll in Haas my third year. I was admitted to UCLA as a MechEng major (tentatively) and into the CEED program... I am currently 50/50 decision-wise and my most ominous and painful dilemma is that I really prefer UCLA's atmosphere and campus to Cal's however I am reluctant to sacrifice my burgeoning passion for Business and Economics.</p>
<p>Can I go to UCLA and - REALISTICALLY - double major in MechEng as well as a form of Econ (whether it be Econ or BizEcon)? And by "realistically" I mean be able to retain my sanity as well as a social life and possibly participate in IM Soccer.</p>
<p>Also, if the aforementioned double major proved to be overly strenous, would a minor in accounting be "do-able"?</p>
<p>Also, if I were interested in applying to a "prestigious"/"top-tier" MBA program would an Engineering degree from UCLA at all affect my chances (either +/-)?</p>
<p>Thanks
Emilio</p>
<p>Ps. I live in Santa Barbara, so both UCLA and Cal are far from home... but not too far. The similar (mild) weather that UCLA offers is a large pull for me as well.</p>
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Yes. Although only about 10-15% of students qualify for ESAP, about 30% of them (in Computer Science and Computer Science and Engineering, at least) choose to stay at UCLA for their M.S. in engineering. :rolleyes:</p>
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<p> [quote=concretewave805] Also, if the aforementioned double major proved to be overly strenous, would a minor in accounting be "do-able"?
Actually, the Accounting minor is only available to Economics/Business Economics majors, so it's not really an alternative to double majoring in Economics to begin with. Also, the prerequisites for the upper-division Accounting courses involve a full load of Economics lower-division courses, so it's not like you'd be avoiding a lot of coursework anyways...</p>
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An engineering degree from a top school like UCLA would improve your chances. For instance, about 15-20% of admits to the Anderson MBA program are Engineering majors, which is pretty astounding given engineering applicants' lower average GPAs and lesser business experience compared to, say, an applicant with a B.S. in Political Science. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Thanks so much.</p>
<p>One more thing: Is a minor in Economics moe practical/feasible?</p>
<p>There is no Economics minor. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Touche.</p>
<p>10 char</p>
<p>Hi flopsy, I was admitted in the college of L&S (undeclared) but was wondering if it's possible to switch to an engineering major during orientation? or do I have to go through and application process and risk getting rejected? Thanks!</p>
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Yes, it's possible, but I think you still have to go through an application process -- even during your Orientation session. You have to wonder how many students will be doing the same... :rolleyes:</p>
<p>sooskay, there is similar discussion going on in this thread as well, in case you didn't see it.</p>
<p>flopsy:</p>
<p>I looked at Prof. Tao's Math 33A midterm and it was so much easier than the other professors!</p>
<p>Plus he let you guys use notecards!</p>
<p>In the last week we've been to open houses at UCSD, UCLA and UCB.</p>
<p>UCSD gave tours of 3-4 engineering labs. Our guide was not wildly impressive, but hey, he and the school tried. </p>
<p>UCB opened 7-8 labs in the ME building (I assume other eng depts were also open) and staffed them with profs and grad students explaining their work. Rather over my head at this point, but all very impressive. They also gave general tours of the engineering bldgs (which we couldn't stay for).</p>
<p>After seeing the UCB facilities at Cal Day today I realized we didn't see any of that at the open house especially for UCLA engineering prospects. While students clubs and their projects were proudly displayed in a quad (really nice some of them), we saw no labs or anything inside any of the engineering buildings. Did we just miss it in the program? The ME talk wasn't in the ME building (prolly needed a bigger hall to hold us all). </p>
<p>What ARE the eng labs/equipt/buildings like (ME in particular if anyone knows)? We heard a new HSSEAS building is going up. Do you know when it'll be ready and what'll be in it?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>hiker: there are a LOT of labs at UCLA especially in the Engr IV building (the one next to Boelter. In fact, I discover new ones every time I am in that building.) I have no idea why you didn't get to see them, but here's a list if you are curious:</p>
<p>And here are the centers:</p>
<p>I believe the new HSSEAS building you are talking about is the California Nanosystems Institute...it's a state of the art research facility dedicated to nanotech research or,</p>
<p>"The work conducted at the CNSI represents world-class expertise in five targeted areas of nanosystems-related research including Renewable Energy; Environmental Nanotechnology and Nanotoxicology; NanoBiotechnology and Biomaterials; NanoMechanical and NanoFluidic systems; and NanoElectronics, Photonics and Architectonics."</p>
<p>I believe it will be ready next year....but I am not sure, although I think part of the building is already fuctional. If you choose UCLA, you will be acquainted with them all. Good luck.</p>