<p>I'm just saying that from the course material I've learned, I don't know how it will be used unless my field will be analysis. It seems like the job field isn't all practical; the UC training doesn't seem to spark creativity as other schools do it seems.
[ol][<em>]UCLA Engineering prepares you for grad school, not just industry. Now that Bachelor's degrees in engineering are becoming de-valued, more and more engineering graduates are coming back to get their M.S. even after being employed full-time. In this respect, a solid theoretical background may actually help you in the long run, since you'll do better on the GRE, have more aptitude to perform research as an undergrad, and be more likely to be successful in a research-based M.S. thesis program.
[</em>]UCLA Engineering provides elective lab courses such as CS 35L (Software Construction Laboratory) and EE 172L (Laser Laboratory) for those who are determined/masochistic enough to voluntarily seek more hands-on experience.
[<em>]UCLA steals its EE/CS labs from Stanford so it's not like our lab professors are deliberately straying from the beaten path in academia.
[</em>]You can always get hands-on experience from working in an internship, which often requires engineering students with good/decent grades, regardless of prior experience. :rolleyes:[/ol]</p>
<p>does anyone know the isbn/version number for "rogawski single variable calculus" for math 31b? i want to get it on amazon but there's a bunch of versions out there</p>
<p>also what is meant by "Savitch (New Low Price) Absolute C++ (3rd) & Codemate Access & Mycodemate" for comp sci 31? are those things all available on amazon as well, and if so, are there different versions to worry about?</p>
<p>Codemate Access is just like a CD-code that gives you access to online resources (which I don't know if anyone utilizes these programs). I don't remember it being required, but I don't know if it's useful in assisting you complete your projects.</p>
<p>are discussions just basically a review of the professor's lecture? i'm a cse major so i'm wondering if the cs projects are done in the discussion and just basically what is usually done in the discussion classes.</p>
<p>Discussions are indeed a review of the past two lectures. No, CS projects are not done, at all, in the discussions and you can only ask the TA general questions about the specifications for clarification. Sometimes the discussion may involve more homework being assigned, which is due the next discussion section. Also, the TAs usually hand back homework assignments/midterm exams and then the students try to argue until they get the As they've striven for. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>For Math 33A the required textbooks come up as:
1) Linear Algebra with Applications by Bretscher
2) Solutions manual for Linear Algebra with Applications by Bretscher
3) Packaged Linear Algebra with Applications by Bretscher with solutions manual
My question is what's the difference between 1+2 and 3?</p>
<p>That's what I get for abbreviating, I knew someone wouldn't be able to resist! :) Now, seriously, the package seems like it would just be a combination of the other two... does anyone know?</p>
<p>When I ordered the books, I ordered international editions that were not from the bookstore. It is most likely a package of the two. There are just two books that are needed. The Solution Guide is not very helpful, and the full solution guide can be found through asking around your peers (I don't know if I have it or not). Check half.com, and buying the paperback international edition will save your son/daughter some backpack weight and a bit of cash for your wallet.</p>
<p>Hope it helps!</p>
<p>and it is an engineering forum after all ; ]</p>
<p>That's good to know, thanks Deuces. So the international editions are exactly the same - same order of chapters, problems, etc. only paperback and sometimes lower quality paper (from what I've read online) ? </p>
<p>Quality of paper I felt was very close to the actual (practically the same). In my experience the books are exactly the same in page numbers etc. (I've had two math books, organic chemistry, and a few other things in international edition) And I've never had a problem. Just make sure you get the same edition as the one the professor is requesting.</p>