<p>@thebigsh0w</p>
<p>To answer your question about what I’m looking into. I’m honestly not quite sure. On one hand I could do grad school and get a PhD, on the other hand, I may want to just enter the workforce. That’s why I’m looking for summer internships (finance related: ibanking, risk management, wealth management, consulting, PE, etc) and will be doing the departmental scholars program. This way I get a taste of both the real world and grad school so I can hopefully decide which I like better.</p>
<p>Thanks so much Supa! You are truly a valuable asset. </p>
<p>I have one last question. Those courses you listed we take for summer session… a lot of my friends do not go to discussion or lecture and just self study. Would that be applicable to these professors? The only reason I ask is because I work full-time to support myself (and pay for my future schooling). Last spring, I worked almost full-time with 19 units at my CC (got a 4.0). This last Fall I was working 60 hours+ while taking Calc 3 during my lunch (got an A). I’m hoping to be able to replicate that this summer session but it really depends if professor requires attendance, requires homework be turned in every session, etc etc. </p>
<p>Not to mention I’ll also being taking PIC 10 and some accounting courses online through extension.</p>
<p>Think I can handle it?</p>
<p>Wow, this is great. Thank you!</p>
<p>@whatasunnyday</p>
<p>None of those summer session teachers take/require attendance. Nonetheless, going to lecture would be extremely valuable. Professor Mcdevitt has lecture notes ($15 total per class) so you could get away with missing some class (though I highly discourage it). However, Professor Christou doesn’t use a textbook and has his own handouts which you need to take notes on in class. You’ll have absolutely no idea what’s going on if you miss class. I don’t know anything about Professor Sanchez, but I’d imagine going to class is extremely important. I personally never go to discussions because they usually just go over homework or regurgitate what happened in lecture. So you could afford missing those. Sometimes, however, the TAs will hold exam reviews right before tests which can be extremely valuable.</p>
<p>There is no homework to turn in for Mcdevitt. Christou has weekly assignments, and I have no idea about Sanchez (though I assume she too gives weekly assignments).</p>
<p>These classes are going to be a lot more work than what you did at CC. I know it’s hard to imagine, I too pondered how much more work it would be when I was in your shoes. But you will understand once you come here. Honestly I have no idea how you would manage to work 60+ hours, go to class, and do well. I guess it’s possible but the real question is whether it is plausible. I personally believe that if you come to school and are willing to shell out all this money, getting good grades should be #1 and everything else can be ranked to your own personal tastes.</p>
<p>If you’re adamant about working and taking summer classes, then I would limit it to a total of only two classes per session (including your extension courses). Give yourself a test run first! You don’t want to completely burnout or kill your GPA before you start your first real quarter at UCLA. If you end up doing well then stick to only 3 classes per quarter during the normal year. Class/competition/grading is more intense during the normal quarters than during summer. After that you should have a good grip on your ability and know what you can and cannot handle</p>
<p>That is some fantastic advice Supa. I really appreciate all your feedback. I think I’m going to ask to be able to take two half days (Tuesdays & Thursdays) to come to class. We’ll see what happens.</p>
<p>supa_ramga:</p>
<p>Wow, this is some great info. I was wondering how summer session works. Also, I was wondering if the departmental scholars program requires one to take the honors section of 115a and 131a.</p>
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<p>Yes and no; depends on the program.</p>
<p>For the DSP in the Mathematics Department, which gives you a MA in Mathematics, then yes, you need to take those in honors and you will also need to take 115B and 131BH. </p>
<p>For the DSP in the Economics Department, you don’t need to take them honors.</p>
<p>Found out I got an A in Real Analysis today. Funny how although many claim Real Analysis is the hardest math class, I put way less effort into that class than 115 and not only did I end up getting a higher grade, but I got a much more solid understanding of the material. It just once again goes to show that the difficulty of a course is also dependent on the effectiveness of a teacher. I don’t even want to imagine how bad/difficult/confusing 131 would have been if I had to take it with my 115 teacher.</p>
<p>after reading a bit more on math/econ, I must confess, I am kind of scared. I mean, I’m good at math, but I’m not great at it. </p>
<p>I’m having second-thoughts about going to UCLA as a math/econ, can anyone help alleviate my fears?</p>
<p>I got in as a math econ major. However, I am going to cal. </p>
<p>If you suck at math or you don’t like it, you should be scared, otherwise don’t be. It is considerably harder than regular econ, easier than pure math major, but not that bad. If you applied to the major because you liked it, then you should be fine. If you applied to it because you wanted to go to UCLA but were too chicken to apply to Econ, then you will be disappointed. Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I got in as a math/econ major. Thank you for posting this guidelines. It helps a lot and I did not even missed one word while reading it. Unfortunately, I only can do one session which is session C. I wondered is it possible to take ECON 11 and Econ 101 at the same time? Or I shouldnt do that at all since the classes might get really intense. If not, should I do Econ 11 and Econ 41? I am not sure what to take for summer session C because they don’t offer Stat 100A and I don really wan to take Math 115A during summer. What is an ideal courses to take if I can only take summer session C? Thank you. </p>
<p>p/s: the professor for Econ 11 class for summer session C is called Professor Yang. Y.H. Has anyone taken him before? Thank you!!!</p>
<p>Don’t take 101 and 11 at the same time. 101 will be with Mcdevitt and you will be way behind.</p>
<p>As a Math/Econ major, you can’t apply Econ 41 to your major :(</p>
<p>Also the Econ 11 teacher for summer session C is actually a grad student. Some are allowed to teach courses during the summer.</p>
<p>^Thank you Supa_Romaga. </p>
<p>This sucks. I have no class to take except econ 11 for summer session C. And i don even know if the teacher for Econ 11 will give me a bad head start for UCLA. Anyway, i will still register Econ 11. Is there any classes I can take at all other than Econ 11? Oh, and I thought Econ 41 is one of the requirements for departmental scholars for Economics? Sigh~~~~~~</p>
<p>You could take Math 115A in session C. I know some people say you should take Math 61 first, but note that both the Mathematics/Applied Mathematics majors do not require Math 61. They all jump right into Math 115A. </p>
<p>I plan on taking Math 115A and Econ 11 in session A, then Econ 101 and 102 in session C. It will be difficult, but definitely doable.</p>
<p>On a side note:
You are allowed to substitute Math 180 for Math 61. This would be a good choice to meet the 60 upper division unit requirement. Note that the new Math/Econ for Fall 2010 only has 11 upper division courses, so you’ll need to take roughly 4 more upper division courses either inside or outside the major to meet L&S requirements.</p>
<p>i’m not even taking math during summer. I’m taking Econ 11 for session A and Econ 101 for session C.</p>
<p>@Rpicton. I heard that it is better to do math 115A in regular session since it is one of the hard courses. I took discrete math in community college. Therefore, I don need to take Math 61. There is only 11 upper division? Wow. I thought its 13? What other electives should I take in order to gain better insight into actuarial science or finance? How about Econ 41? I know it is not part of our major. But I would love to try the departmental scholar and I saw it from their website that Econ 41 is part of the requirements.</p>
<p>I think I will only do Econ 11 for Summer session C. I can’t do session A since its a little bit rush for me to find apartment and stuff…Thank you everyone :)</p>
<p>You can substitute Stats 100A for Econ 41 for the DSP. Plus, Stats 100A is required for the major.</p>
<p>115A in the summer session will be easier, as Supa_Ramga noted various times. Typically, summer session classes are less intense despite the fact that they are 4 weeks shorter. There is a lot less competition. </p>
<p>For actuarial science,
Math 172A
Math 172B
Math 172C</p>
<p>Besides the required stats 100a/b, you may want to take 100C</p>
<p>Math 171 (STOCHASTC PROCESSES) might be useful also.</p>
<p>For more info on the DSP, here is a list of courses that one successful DSP transfer took (who is now a PhD student at MIT):
[url=<a href=“http://www.pareto-optimal.com/courseplan.htm]Pareto-Optimal[/url”>http://www.pareto-optimal.com/courseplan.htm]Pareto-Optimal[/url</a>]</p>
<p>I’m planning to take Econ 11 too for Session C. Does anyone know if the Professor Yang is good?</p>
<p>wow this thread is very helpful!</p>
<p>I heard Math 131A is one of the hardest upper div maths. Would it be generally easier to take it during summer?</p>
<p>How is the difficulty of Math 164 and Math 174?</p>
<p>And what are some easy upper div econ electives for math/econ major?</p>
<p>cool story bro. There’s always a crazy freak who got some crazy score.When I was attending university of washington, I took linear algebra with a crazy prof. he loveeeeee to put at least 5 proving questions in an hour exam XD</p>
<p>the mean of that class was 26/100 and the median was 31/100. (fortunately, he curve the score) however there’s 2 freaks who got 90% in this crazy class XD</p>