<p>oh great. i might as well have applied to Berkeley.</p>
<p>wow this is getting out of hands. 50,000+ ?</p>
<p>yeah that is pretty extreme but at the same time alot of weaker kids apply to LA rather than Berkeley because LA is percieved as being easier to get into. LA's admission percentage fell only becuase they had more applicants but still only accept a set number. If you are a strong applicant then don't worry because i know tons of ppl who werent strong applicants but sent them to LA. UCLA's pile is probably filled with a more strong applicants now but alot more dummy ones as well.</p>
<p>Princeton ED has a 26% acceptance rate but it's still a hell of a lot harder to get in than UCLA. Because the UC app is just one app, a lot of unqualified people just mark down Berkeley and LA just for kicks. With any other college, even if it uses the common app, a supplement is almost always required, so applicants have to be more committed and also think they have a decent chance. I think that the same phenomenon occurs with Berkeley a bit - UCLA is said to be under Berkeley - and it is, but only by a tiny, miniscule bit. People don't understand that they're basically equal, and think that LA's an easier deal, and then they don't bother even applying to Berkeley. Kinda like how Yale's EA applicant count dropped, probably because people thought they'd have a better chance elsewhere.</p>
<p>flong,</p>
<p>UCLA is perceived as easier to get into?</p>
<p>It wasn't at my high school, and that was almost 6 or 7 years ago!</p>
<p>I think that's a pretty broad generalization (LA being easier to get into than Berkeley). It really depends, because I know people - and I'm sure others here do as well - who have gotten into Berkeley and not LA. At my school, it was a trade-off each year. LA was the easier school to get into this year, and it was the opposite last year.</p>
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<p>I don't think this is the case at all. In my last semester at community college, I talked to someone who had a 3.8 GPA (sociology major), but was denied admission. Even though the average transfer GPA is 3.5, there are students with much higher GPAs who get rejected all the time. As for freshmen admissions, it's ridiculously selective. It seems that the UCLA admissions staff focuses very closely on picking the best students and I think they're doing a good job of it. Most of the students I've seen here are very competitive and nearly all of them are very smart.</p>
<p>Most of the 50,000+ who are applying to UCLA are probably doing so because besides the great academic programs and enormous nationwide prestige, this place offers a fun environment, great weather, social atmosphere, athletics and the city of LA.</p>
<p>I am not getting in on the argument of whether it's an easier school to get into or not (for personal info tough I was admitted by CAL and chose UCLA - for academics and social, personal, financial aspects). </p>
<p>We all know how prestigious our university is. When you say UCLA, I would dare to say that people's impressions are mostly on academics and the rest would be social life, location, etc. This 'rep' are backed by our student population and faculty. </p>
<p>Personally, I am very happy and proud to be a Bruin. It's challenging academically and it's socially rewarding, too.</p>
<p>I could have gone to CAL (since academic success resides with the person and not the school - according to popular belief), but I chose UCLA because I know I will be happier here. </p>
<p>I know someone who chose SUNY instead of attending UC; that someone wishes he chose the latter. </p>
<p>There's no school out there that can boast of being the best school in all academic aspects. If you're a prospective student please consider this: are you ready to challenge yourself academically and socially and are you willing to spend 4-5 years here without 'getting bored' or 'falling behind expectations'?</p>
<p>And if you think we're too easy and we're just really slighty behind CAL and other Ivy schools, why is it that when it's time to pursue their MD or PhD they actually come here? If you're answer is, 'because it's easier to get into,' then UCLA is the wrong school for you.</p>
<p>whoamg is right. Part of the reason why there's so many applicants is that a lot of people just mark off UCLA or Berkeley on their UC app because they don't have to send in teacher recs, secondary school report, official transcripts, etc. And to top it all off, you got the most populated state in the U.S!!</p>
<p>I can't wait until UCLA's admissions rate dips below 20.0% in the next two years, and the average GPA/SAT for admission finally breaks 4.30/2050. Just a matter of time. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>'I can't wait until UCLA's admissions rate dips below 20.0% in the next two years, and the average GPA/SAT for admission finally breaks 4.30/2050. Just a matter of time.'</p>
<p>That's some scary *&^#@ right there.</p>
<p>o but i like teh dumb people, they make life easier</p>
<p>Berkeley's practically there - 4.33/2007</p>
<p>This year I'm expecting a 10 point rise in SAT and a 0.1 point rise in GPA.</p>
<p>4.4 is the maximum gpa u can for ucs with 8 honors/ap capped. it goes up a max of .4 so Cal is already there. The only thing they can really do now is raise the SAT and finally look indepth to exc and really read essays. I swear in like 50 years, they'll take a folicle of hair and based on ur genes/physical appeal and look/grades/sat/atheleticism will become the new standards for admittance. -sigh-</p>
<p>honestly, i think sat should be weighed more than gpa, because every school has different standards, and every teacher grades differently, so how are htey comparable? an a in physics ap at troy is definitely worht more than an a in algebra II H at, leuzinger or something</p>
<p>Agree with moldau.</p>
<p>Disagree. SAT is fine where it is. Rather, AP scores should be considered more heavily, with a 5 = A, 4 = B, 3 = C, 2 = D, 1 = F, with the grade you got in the class being rendered null and void. On the AP test, a 4 is a 4, whereas in a class, you may have done extra credit, gotten participation points, or begged the teacher to round up.</p>
<p>Also: Berkeley is 4.33 uncapped for admits. Talking about capped GPA in the Berkeley/LA context is pointless since they don't look at your capped GPA.</p>
<p>orly? not everyone wants to take aps. and then, everyone has diffferent prep for aps. if you just took the test without taking a class, and you got a 5, is that an a for 2 semesters? or what if your teacher was utter crap and you ended up with a 1? do you deserve a f, when your physics teacher doesn't even know how to integrate? </p>
<p>and then, should a 5 on apes be considered the same weight as a 5 on physics c or chem? apes gives you 1 semester credit in most colleges, so a 5 on the apes would give 1 semester's a, even though the class lasted for a year in hs?</p>
<p>at least sat is ALL THE SAME</p>
<p>what's the diff between capped and uncapped gpas</p>
<p>i have a uc gpa of 4.2 is this the capped gpa? o_0</p>
<p>From the L.A. Times:</p>
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UCLA is a top U.S. choice for freshmen
The university's 50,694 applications for fall entry may be the most in the nation. Increased interest from blacks and Latinos pleases officials.
By Rebecca Trounson, Times Staff Writer
January 25, 2007 </p>
<p>UCLA said Wednesday that 50,694 students have applied for the fall freshman class, up 7.1% from last year. UCLA officials said the figure appeared to show that the campus, as it has for nearly a decade, had attracted more applications than any other university nationwide. </p>
<p>UCLA leaders also said they were happy about an increase in applications from African American and Latino students, two groups considered underrepresented at most University of California campuses and in the UC system as a whole. </p>
<p>UCLA in particular has been under pressure to boost the number of African American students on campus after that figure fell to about 100 for the current freshman class, its lowest level since at least 1973.</p>
<p>The figures out Wednesday, part of UC's annual release of application numbers, showed that 2,444 African American students applied to UCLA for freshman admission in the fall, making up 5% of the school's total of 48,459 U.S. applications. That was up from 2,173 last year, or 4.8% of the total. </p>
<p>Applications from Latino students also rose this year. The UCLA report showed that 8,711 Latinos applied for freshman admission — 18% of the total applicants — compared with 7,650, or 16.8%, last year.</p>
<p>UCLA officials were relieved at those figures, especially after reports in the fall that some Los Angeles-area high school counselors had urged black students not to apply, apparently telling the students that the university was not interested in them. In appearances at high schools and letters to counselors, UCLA leaders, including acting Chancellor Norman Abrams, emphasized that was not the case.</p>
<p>On Wednesday, administrators attributed the increases to campus and community efforts to encourage all qualified students — but underrepresented minority students in particular — to apply to the Westwood campus.</p>
<p>"We were concerned that the numbers of applications would decrease from African American students," said Janina Montero, UCLA's vice chancellor for student affairs. "The involvement of the community, alumni, students and faculty has been very, very important to make sure those numbers were maintained and have grown proportionately."</p>
<p>The numbers of Asian American (18,563, up from 17,982 last year) and white students (15,424, up from 14,468) applying to UCLA also rose. But the percentage of Asian American applicants fell somewhat as a proportion of the U.S. applicant pool — from 39.4% for 2006 to 38.3% this year.</p>
<p>The percentage of white applicants was nearly unchanged at 31.7% of the total last year and 31.8% this year.</p>
<p>UCLA this year is using a new "holistic" approach in admissions, one in which all facets of each applicant can be considered at once by admissions reviewers. The new model, which will make UCLA's admissions process more like UC Berkeley's, was spurred partly by concerns about the dwindling numbers of black students, but UCLA's acting chancellor and faculty leaders say they think the change will also lead to fairer admissions for all applicants.</p>
<p>The campus has set an enrollment target for the fall freshman class of 4,675, admissions officials said. Applicants will learn April 1 if they made the cut. </p>
<p>Across the UC system, meanwhile, the number of high school seniors applying for admission in the fall rose 5.3% this year, with 87,213 students hoping to win spots. Those from California students were up 4.7% this year, while international freshman applications jumped more than 20%, according to figures released Wednesday by the UC president's office. </p>
<p>(The figures, which are compiled earlier in January than those released by the campuses, often vary slightly from those reports.)</p>
<p>According to that UC report, the number of freshman applications for 2007 increased for every campus except UC Santa Cruz, where 76 fewer students applied than last year. At UC Irvine, 39,910 students applied, up 4% from last year. At UC Riverside, four more prospective freshmen — for a total of 19,797 — applied for 2007 than did last year.</p>
<p>Applications from college students hoping to transfer to one of the university's 10 campuses were down slightly, from 23,943 last year to 23,781 this year. </p>
<p>And UC officials said nearly all students hoping to win admission this year — 99% — filed their applications online. </p>
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<p><a href="mailto:rebecca.trounson@latimes.com">rebecca.trounson@latimes.com</a>
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