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<p>To reject USC's prominent status is to reject reality.. No, it isn't on Cal's level yet (though a few programs are!), but neither is it a third-tier-toilet.</p>
<p>And I apologize if the vast majority of my posts portray me as a USC troll; I think it just appears that way as often my posts are in defense of a USC program or the school itself. You'll never find me advocating that one should choose USC humanities or USC liberal arts over either of the top UC's. In my Jeopardy! Teen Tournament episode where I was interviewed by Alex -- this is before I visited USC -- Trebek, all I spoke about was the strength of UCLA is virtually every academic discipline, leading Alex to say. Berkeley and LA are fantastic, amazing schools that, especially in the case of UCLA, often do not get the recognition they deserve on the East Coast. Also, UCLA's meteoric rise form being founded in 1919 (or was it '21) is in my opinion, the greatest feat in American Higher Education. I have enormous respect for it.</p>
<p>I simply take offense to comments such as "UCLA is KING of it's domain," because no, UCLA is not lightyears ahead of USC as many would like to think. And to call it small and mostly regional when it's 31,000 students (comparable to Berk) and has the highest enrollment of international students of ANY American U? </p>
<p>Statistics are statistics, facts are facts, and I use these to try to get people to understand that the historic disparity between the two school's prestige has significantly narrowed, especially very recently, to a point where one really has to consider the program/major. </p>
<p>And for the record, had I gotten into Berkeley, I would've chosen it for Haas. But in the meantime, I'm damn proud to say "Fight On!"</p>
<p>In terms of science and math, Caltech is the indisputable king of not just LA, but of entire SoCal. As far as comprehensive universities go, I do think UCLA is king of its domain. I mean USC isn't even posted on the CC Top Colleges forum.</p>
<p>rooster08, I wouldn't use that to reason my argument. That stats in USC's favor over UCLA (and sometimes Cal too) are published, well-documented, and have been pointed out many a time. For the sake of everyong here who's forced to read me drone on how USC has higher this and that, I won't regurgitate these. US News ranks UCLA at #25, and USC at #30 -- a very small difference. Faculties and those in academic who know much more on this topic than all of us as they work with each other's professors and admit each other's grad students rank the strength of UCLA's overall program as 4.2 and USC at 3.9, another small difference. The peer ranking of Notre Dame, a school that IS on the CC top list, is 3.9. Let's assume USC just barely missed being the cutoff to be on CC's list; does that make UCLA KING of it's domain? Even if it didn't, the gap is, as aforementioned, so narrow that perhaps each are king of certain programs, but not everything in general.</p>
<p>And with that, I'm off to eat at DeNeve because -- and you'll admit this too, Cal kids -- one thing UCLA IS king of is collegiate food. The real pressing issue here is whether or not a USC shirt should be worn...</p>
<p>so? alot of schools are not posted on the CC top colleges forum, and to that effect it changes every year anyhow. being on there does not make you the best school in your area (especially on a program level), it just means USNEWS put you in the top 25 (minus the ivies because they have their own forum), USC is about less than 10 spots away from that, so i'm not so sure that means a whole lot.</p>
<p>--megastud, dont you go to USC? what are you doing eating a UCLA cafeteria? i know the food's good but isnt that a bit far to walk? :)</p>
<p>Haha, yes, but the food is superb. However, today I was personally introduced to both the UV food court as well as Upstairs Cafe. Mmmmmm...</p>
<p>i like the upstairs cafe, too bad it's hours kind of stink.</p>
<p>so, you were eating at UCLA why? other than the food being good it's a little bit out of the way.</p>
<p>The girlfriend goes there and I'm whipped.</p>