UCLA, Univ. Southern Ca., What are my chances?

<p>They must have been attempting to convert you to Christianity... :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Flopsy, did you get full scholarship?
Are you "in state" or "out of state"?</p>

<p>?????????????????</p>

<p>I didn't get any scholarships because I didn't qualify for either need or merit.
I am out of state.</p>

<p>Ok..............</p>

<p>UCLA's engineering isn't that well-known. I am not sure if it's really that hard to get into even for OOS. I know a person with similar stats (actually lower verbal) and weaker ECs to sehovic got into Berkeley. He's from Hong Kong where more people apply to Berk than from Serbia/Montenegro.</p>

<p>UCLA engineering isn't well-known on what planet? I heard that Venusians aren't too savvy on it, but on earth I think most people have heard of it.</p>

<p>Well, it has no specialty in the top 10.</p>

<p>sehovic,
Did you participate IMO?
I am not sure about the Junior Balkan MO because it's not as well-known as, say, IMO. I am sure its quite an achievement as many east European countries traditionally had done pretty well in the IMO.</p>

<p>What's foking? That sounds great! Where could I try that?</p>

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<p>Doesn't mean it's not well-known. It's still fairly respectable, and sends a lot of grads all around.</p>

<p>And besides, UCLA is 10th in Aerospace Engineering, and I'm sure that lots of people at JPL would argue with you about the program's merit.</p>

<p>sehovic,</p>

<p>If you are looking for good engineering program, forget about NYU, Pepperdine, and George Wash. I am also not so sure about Miami either.</p>

<p>You many want to look into:
1. U of Washington
2. Georgia Tech (not sure about the scholarship policy, but it's cheaper than many places to begin with) and it has great reputation in engineering world
3. U of Wisconsin (traditionally accepts a lot of international students)
4. U of Texas at Austin (tuition is low compared to many other places; lots of different scholarships given to graduate students but I am not sure about undergrads)
5. Purdue
6. Illinois
7. Michigan (expensive but they may give $)</p>

<p>Bascially, you have a fighting chance to get into any school if you don't need financial aid. Your stats are quite good and your ECs are very good for an international student. The big question mark is how your request for $ affects the admission difficulty FOR INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS. A "need-blind" admission policy may only apply to American citizens/permanent residents, NOT international students; you need to find this out yourself as many people on CC aren't internationals.</p>

<p>I'd like to second what Sam has said, and add on Rensselaer (RPI.) Privates typically offer better packages to internationals, in my experience.</p>

<p>UCLAri,</p>

<p>It's aerospace is actually 13th, not 10th, with a peer assessment of 3.4 out of 5.0 according to the latest US News ranking. There aren't many aerospace programs in the country anyway. A lot of people in JPL are associated with CalTech. </p>

<p>UCLA is a respectable institution, of course. It has a great med school and its law/business schools aren't shabby either. It also has many other good programs like film/public health..etc. But when people think of UCLA, it's the well-roundedness, rather than its engineeering, that comes to people's mind. I was an international from Hong Kong looking into engineering programs myself. Many of my friends interested in that were looking into programs like Purdue, Wisconsin, Texas-Austin, Michigan, Illinois before UCLA even you can argue UCLA is more well-known than many of them IN GENERAL. FYI: I had degrees in chemE/environmentalE. In case I seem to digress, my point is if you are an international student applying for its engineering program, it's difficult but not "particularly" difficult. The engineering program is solid (just like most programs at UCLA) but it doesn't give much extra kick to admission difficulty like some other programs such as Michigan, Illinois, and Berkeley.</p>

<p>Sam,</p>

<p>Last I remember it was 10th, but oh well.</p>

<p>And yes, lots at JPL are Cal Tech alum, but trust me when I say that lots are also UCLA alum. I know that anecdotal evidence is crap, but I have a fair number of friends working for them or that have worked for them, and the number of UCLA grads is pretty darn tootin' high.</p>

<p>Either way, I wouldn't discount it as an international. It's perfectly respectable, and may just offer a good package (doubtful.)</p>

<p>Also look at USC.</p>

<p>Thank you very much.</p>

<p>I didn't participate IMO. But, Junior Balkan MO is like IMO. </p>

<p>Foking is sailing, or something like that. you could try in Serbia.</p>

<p>Can somebody send me US News ranking for engineering or something similar, please? <a href="mailto:nikolase@eunet.yu">nikolase@eunet.yu</a></p>

<p>UCLA is cool.</p>

<p>Actually, for an international, I'd recommend USC before UCLA, if only because you're likely to get a better financial aid package.</p>

<p>But as a Bruin, that's off the record. ;-)</p>

<p>"Good universities in engineering:
1. UCLA
2. UCSD
3. USC
4. UCSB"</p>

<ol>
<li>UCB</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>UCSB</li>
</ol>

<p>Fixed.</p>

<p>Can somebody send me US News ranking for engineering or something similar, please? <a href="mailto:nikolase@eunet.yu">nikolase@eunet.yu</a>
Please. please. please.</p>

<p>You can search on yahoo with keywords like "engineering ranking chemical usnews" and get 2004/2005 rankings (in this case, chemical engineering).</p>

<p>US News has "overall" and departmental rankings. The "overall" ranking is pretty inaccurate; you probably want the departmental rankings. But what engineering discipline are you more likely to be interested in?</p>

<p>if you're looking for a school in southern california (i live here, it's probably the best weather in all the world =) that's good in engineering, the UC's are all good choices, as they have strong programs... however, them being public, the money is an issue and i'm not sure if they grant 100% of financial need, i dont have a clue as to how they treat their international students</p>

<p>USC's a good private in southern california</p>

<p>but here's an idea:
maybe apply to a liberal arts college around here? harvey mudd and the claremonts are EXCELLENT schools, esp. harvey mudd, with a very good undergrad engineering program. in fact, US news ranks them as the 2nd best undergrad engineering program among small liberal arts school. the problem might be in that it is a smaller school then like a national university like UCLA or USC, but you could have a shot there. it's also private, so it might be able to meet your needs financially. dont get me wrong though -- the school is very very competitive, might even be a little harder than ucla. but you never know?</p>

<p>and i see that you might apply to pepperdine.... if you want to go to california for the weather, there isn't a better sample of california weather than at pepperdine. malibu, california is HEAVEN.... (:</p>