UCLA vs. CAL ADVICE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<p>I need some advice...I was accepted at UCLA as a English major and UC Berkeley as a Mass Communications major for the fall. I must be going through a personal crisis because I am positive that I dont want to do English as a major...I cant imagine analyzing literature for 2 more years!</p>

<p>My dilemma is that I am in love with Westwood and UCLA, and I hope to make it into the media world as an editor, producer, etc. My gut instincts tell me to go to UCLA and major in something else (Im thinking History, with a minor in Film) because my chances of landing an internship at a magazine or TV station are higher there. But, its UC Berkeley...do people really pass up Berkeley regardless of the major? In addition, I cant stand the town of Berkeley. </p>

<p>ANY ADVICE?</p>

<p>UCLA isn’t that much of a stoop down from Berkeley. In fact, they are pretty much comparable. Go with what will make you the happier. In your case, it seems to be UCLA pronouncedly.</p>

<p>I agree…thanks for you input. I think im most worried about a lack of job opportunity being a History major…any insight?</p>

<p>Lots of people pass up Berkeley for other colleges. Both of my kids passed it up for other UCs. Don’t assume Berkeley is any better than the other top UCs in terms of things that count, like opportunities. Do consider that wherever you decide to go, you’ll likely be living there for the next 4 years or so, so how the environment appeals to you is important.</p>

<p>I don’t understand the ‘English Major’ point - did you apply as one and if so, why did you if you don’t want that? Why not just do some other major? Doing a major you like is important so that could be a deciding factor if you have a choice between only one you don’t like at one college and one you like at another.</p>

<p>ucsd<em>ucla</em>dad: Thanks for you advice…I agree with your point about Cal, I feel as though UCLA will give me more opportunities in the end. Does your son/daughter like UCLA? What is their major?
Yes I applied as an English major…but after applications were due it rapidly became apparent that I wasnt as in love with the major as I thought. It sounded good at the time. Changing majors I hear is a VERY difficuly process at UCLA. Its not even guarenteed. I would hate to go there on the hopes of changing my major and then being rejected and stuck in English…</p>

<p>Decisions…Decisions!</p>

<p>callichick-
each department has an undergrad dept counselor- you could call the ucla history dept advisor or email and ask what the likelihood is of a transfer admitted as an english major switching into history–they probably can’t decide, but can tell you the reality of a transfer student switching to their dept. </p>

<p>from what I have heard its doubtful for a transfer to switch into comm studies at ucla, so weighing that against berkleley mass comm is one of your considerations. Weighing all the factors is tough, I know, but following your academic passion is important.</p>

<p>theocmom: Many thanks for your advice, I actually have contacted the History dept. and they seemed very hopeful, the person that I spoke with told me to go see him during the time at orientation that I would go meet with my English advisor. </p>

<p>I wouldnt want to do the COMM major at UCLA. Ive heard its for “blondes” and not very respected. This is honestly the hardest decision ever, and, its just one of many! Too often students think about how much money they can make rather than studying their passion.</p>

<p>Im greatly concerned about what I could even do with a History major…but maybe I should see past that and love what I am learning…</p>

<p>Thanks again for the advice.</p>

<p>cali chick- check your pm</p>

<p>caliChick - don’t worry about not choosing cal over ucla. There are many people who have chosen ucla over cal or any other uc, including myself. ucla is a beautiful campus, and westwood is just a very cool place to be - especially when films premiere at the village or mann bruin. There are perks to going to berkeley I’m sure, but the colloquially named “rape trail” isn’t one of them =)</p>

<p>In any case switching majors from english to history really shouldn’t be too much a problem in L&S. Communications may have a bad rap, but it’s a fairly serious and a usual major and very popular as well. Some of those Comm weeder classes can include a pretty heavy workload. </p>

<p>If you are interested in anything related to the entertainment/media industry, LA definitely a good place to be. Cal can not even compare in that respect.</p>

<p>History classes can be a blast, although a lot of reading and paper writing. Your ease of employment will primarily depend on the internships, volunteer work or part-time jobs you take during school or soon after. </p>

<p>good luck!</p>

<p>BeneathJanssStep: Thanks for the advice! I agree that LA is the place to be for the entertainment world, and Westwood is simply…amazing! </p>

<p>Ive talked with many people who have already graduated and most of them say that if Im not going into business or engineering, etc that the undergrad major doesnt really matter. It is more about networking and what you do while at school (i.e. research and internships). </p>

<p>Are you a current student at UCLA? Whats your major? If you have any advice about the most logical way to change majors I would greatly appreciate it.</p>

<p>THANKS AGAIN!</p>

<p>What you’ve been told about research and internships is very true, and something I wish I pursued more about I was in college. This was back when looking up internships meant flipping thru old dusty binders at the career office though =) </p>

<p>I was BS Computer Sci / BA East Asian Studies/Japanese (thus a lot of history classes), never finished my MFA, but nevermind about that =) I highly recommend you download the UCLA General Catalog, or pick up a hardcopy once you’re in school. This will be your guidebook for the next 4-5 years, and generally should anything change while you are at ucla (eg. ge/major requirements), you will only be held responsible for what the reqs were when you enrolled into your major. I could be wrong about the current situation, but in the past it was fairly easy to transfer between non-impacted majors in L&S and only requires some petitions & paperwork (usually a mere formality). If you make an appt with any of the academic counselors when you start school, I’m sure they can take you thru the process step by step. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/[/url]”>http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>According to pg 76 of the pdf (p74 of the catalog) -

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<p>hope that helps!</p>

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This is actually a pretty common question for liberal-arts majors.</p>

<p>Colleges offer 2 types of degrees under one roof. This leads to confusion because back in the day they used to be offered at different schools; you went to one type of institution for job training, another for the classic “college education”. Some degrees are vocational in nature – accounting, engineering, nursing, etc. People with these degrees are prepared for jobs in their field without grad school (although some switch and do something completely different). On the other hand there are liberal-arts degrees.</p>

<p>Without the distinction in mind one ends up with mixed metaphors. Asking “what do I do with a major in english” is applying a vocational-education measure to a liberal-arts pursuit, and is somewhat akin to asking “how many inches in a cup of water?” None of the liberal-arts majors lead directly to a career path (except perhaps as a professor in that subject) nor are they intended to. The reason to pick a liberal-arts major is because of a strong interest in the subject. It may also be applicable to some career fields; an undergrad degree in an area such as English can be helpful for jobs that tend to require a lot of writing. But that is not the main goal; if you want a degree that prepares you for a job, pick a vocational major.</p>

<p>History, poli-sci, archeology, you name it. People with these majors can get good jobs too, but it takes more than just the degree. Good grades and involvement in leadership activities is important, but the key that is needed for these majors are internships. They set you apart from the 1000’s of other kids with the same degree, give you experience in the field, and usually lead to offers from the companies where you had internships. Other companies are impressed by the internships and take a much closer look at you.</p>

<p>People with liberal-arts degrees are NOT doomed to flipping burgers. Most people in management positions came up from these majors. One issue when answering questions like the OP asked is that most HS students (and unfortunately many college students) are just not yet informed about all the jobs that are out there. They can name only one or two dozen jobs, so they have no idea of how people enter career fields they don’t even know exist. This narrowing of focus means kids talk about the same few jobs as if that’s all there is – lawyer, teacher, accountant, doctor, investment banker, etc. Almost any career field is open to the liberal-arts grad outside of the ones that require specific training (engineering, nursing, etc), and even for these you could go to grad school or take post-college classes (eg. becoming an RN) if you really wanted.</p>

<p>The OP needs to take the broad approach; say to yourself “I’m going to graduate with a college degree, and this is a base requirement for many employers. But in addition to that, what steps do I need to take to identify a potential career and make myself an attractive hire to prospective employers in that field?” I would suggest the OP read 2 books. The first is “Major in Success” and explains with many stories how college students can discover their interests and prepare for jobs pursuing those interests while in college. The second book (more general, but along the same lines) is the bible of the job-hunter, “What Color is Your Parachute”. This book also helps you discover what your interests are and how to determine where out in the working world you can do it. I also suggest using the resources of the career center. First explore what you like to do, then identify career areas where you can do it. At that point you continue your preparation & exploration by joining clubs, getting internships, etc. The OP should also be sure to take advantage of the myriad opportunities while at UCLA; join clubs, fellow students who may be doing something you’d be interested in and can tell you more about how they got started, attend talks and presentations from visiting employers, etc.</p>